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Fumesucker

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5. I'm gathering that this young man was quite uncommunicative

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Sun Dec 16, 2012, 04:07 PM

Dec 2012

There are some people who are an open book and others who are far more reticent about revealing what they are thinking.

No birth control method other than sterilization is foolproof and people very often don't have any idea what they are getting into being a parent, our culture is not good at looking at such things realistically and tends strongly to idealize parenthood (among a lot of other things).

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Please someone explain to me how a parent can live in the same house with a child they have raised [View all] politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 OP

If his mother had known she was going to be killed do you really think lunatica Dec 2012 #1

I don't believe anyone who has that level of contempt for someone who can shot them in the face politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #4

good point, worth considering, but you still made that up. it's plausable, not factual. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #10

how do you know that it was deep-seated contempt...? Mel Content Dec 2012 #29

Is it clearly known he hated her? u4ic Dec 2012 #30

Shooting a person in the face is a sign of deep hate. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #33

so is shooting a child 5,6,7, times u4ic Dec 2012 #39

Yes - that is hate or anger. These kids represented something to him. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #48

Two posts above, I offered another possible explanation why he could have murdered his mother u4ic Dec 2012 #53

Why the deep hatred? Cetacea Dec 2012 #62

Actually a former baby-sitter, from maybe 10 years ago, truebluegreen Dec 2012 #61

So that he wouldn't get hurt? loyalsister Dec 2012 #73

Anyone who feels the need to store an arsenal in their home is in denial of something, that's for valerief Dec 2012 #2

First of all, contempt may have had nothing to do with his mind state. KittyWampus Dec 2012 #3

Whatever his state of mind, I doubt it developed overnight. There were clues. Even his older politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #7

"I doubt it developed overnight" - While there may have been signs of problems before coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #32

I'm gathering that this young man was quite uncommunicative Fumesucker Dec 2012 #5

Most kids are. As parents we've got to find ways to get them to open up. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #14

It sounds like both mother and son were pretty isolated-- TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #6

I'm curious why you bolded the part about no spanking Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #8

Because I was trying to convey that these kids were out of control. Their parents didn't believe politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #12

You can't spank your kids? Since when? galileoreloaded Dec 2012 #15

May I just add one thing? Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #17

I appreciate the respectful post. I also understand the distinction between discipline and politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #19

I understand your position and have great respect for you. Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #21

How would you discipline a child with Schizoid Personality Disorder? FarCenter Dec 2012 #54

I don't believe in spanking or time outs, I use positive discipline. In your case I am Happyhippychick Dec 2012 #57

I can still feel my brain burn from the fear of my parents. And the sting of a bamboo switch. Manifestor_of_Light Dec 2012 #31

Spanking and causing fear in children actually changes their brain chemistry. It also teaches them Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #35

ugh. You are so wrong. Hitting teaches hitting. It teaches that force is a solution. cali Dec 2012 #34

Yes - you are very correct. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #36

Well said. rrneck Dec 2012 #9

Have you ever tried to get someone referred for psych eval? oldhippie Dec 2012 #11

Not personally, but as I mentioned I know someone who threatened to kill her mother. This was a politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #13

The police have to be concerned that the person is a harm to themselves or others. The words suicide Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #37

Parents know...but it's still your "child" ileus Dec 2012 #16

Your kid can be well rounded, active, engaging, and still TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #18

And I imagine as the parents, you would have done anything to help them. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #20

2020 hindsight SmileyRose Dec 2012 #22

this might blow your mind Corgigal Dec 2012 #23

Then if he loved her so much and wanted to spare her, than why not just NOT DO IT. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #24

My counselor told me once long before this marlakay Dec 2012 #25

Susan Klebold says otherwise: The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2012 #26

Read that last night. Very powerful. n/t OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #46

I watch a lot of those true crime shows. This happens more often than you'd think. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #27

In Reply to "those two brothers who killed their parents" intaglio Dec 2012 #28

Read the Yahoo story about his mother lbrtbell Dec 2012 #38

So, Adam Lanza's parents should have hit him obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #40

If that's all you took from what I said than so be it. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #42

You really need to study up on sociopaths obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #44

As uncomprehending as you may be, the fact is you Sheldon Cooper Dec 2012 #41

I'll reserve my compassion for the 26 victims who were shot at the school, thank you. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #43

It's not surprising that you can't feel for both. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2012 #47

+1 n/t ieoeja Dec 2012 #56

+1 obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #45

I was trying to find a polite way to say the same thing Marrah_G Dec 2012 #68

A child with disabilities loyalsister Dec 2012 #75

read "I am Adam Lanza's mother" Enrique Dec 2012 #49

Yes, I'm guessing there are few here eloquently passing judgment that have actually been emotionally libdem4life Dec 2012 #58

And don't forget to read some other posts from that same mother. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #74

Wasn't there a recent movie about this? "We Need to Talk About Kevin"? Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #50

Essentially you are just insisting your knowledge must apply to everyone else. Doesn't seem very Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #51

How about we talk about psychotropic drugs. They can CAUSE schizophrenic-like behavior. libdem4life Dec 2012 #52

((crickets))) Cetacea Dec 2012 #63

Thank you for sharing. libdem4life Dec 2012 #66

I was referring to the utter lack of response to your excellent point. Cetacea Dec 2012 #69

So sorry ... kind of new on these boards. The anti-psychotics take it to another level and I'd bet libdem4life Dec 2012 #71

Add the sometimes very severe pecwae Dec 2012 #70

Absolutely. The psychiatrists admit they have no idea how these powerful drugs will effect the brain libdem4life Dec 2012 #72

With respect, this is pure conjecture. I know you want it to make sense but trust me, you don't know nolabear Dec 2012 #55

or overdosed or underdosed on Zyprexa or something similar. That would account for it, too. libdem4life Dec 2012 #59

So many things might, but none do. We can only get as much info as we can and estimate. nolabear Dec 2012 #60

Schizophrenia often develops in young adults susanr516 Dec 2012 #64

This is so true. And lots of kids nowdays smoke pot, which helps to mellow out the swings. libdem4life Dec 2012 #67

happened to a friend of mine in high school too abelenkpe Dec 2012 #78

It's true...what you say in some respects...but, not All Parents are Equal in KoKo Dec 2012 #65

I think he feared his mother riverwalker Dec 2012 #76

Well, no one knows any of these things until they have children Tumbulu Dec 2012 #77