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Well, your statement there doesn't sound quite fair...... Joe the Revelator Dec 2012 #1
Whatever is the truth, she looks very human, like us Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #207
From what I read, she initiated the divorce. Laurian Dec 2012 #2
I wish someone would "abandon" me to the tune of $250K per year jberryhill Dec 2012 #23
!!!! sounds good to me too Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #204
From what I read, she initiated the divorce after he was caught cheating krawhitham Dec 2012 #68
Oops, sorry. I hadn't heard the cheating part. Laurian Dec 2012 #76
Right, Dad is never responsible for anything in these scenarios Warpy Dec 2012 #3
well, personally I'm going with what the people who knew her have said TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #32
Thank you for this Saboburns Dec 2012 #38
As-Salamu Alayka grantcart Dec 2012 #142
It's anger Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #146
So true. The survival, primitive part of the human brain does this WCLinolVir Dec 2012 #179
That's an interesting way to look at it Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #196
This is why the President said "today is not the day ..." Bake Dec 2012 #190
Exactly Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #195
You know why people do this... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #40
stop reading my mind TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #51
It's all about Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #147
That makes a lot of sense. Chemisse Dec 2012 #156
it's been tough here the last few days. Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #198
Not on DU it isn't TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #178
I was with you all the way through this thread Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #197
Really? renie408 Dec 2012 #200
Exactly..... sendero Dec 2012 #140
his mother told the male bbsitter to never leave Adam in a room by himself. grasswire Dec 2012 #46
and it seems to mean that as a youth TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #69
Autism or Aspberger's do not cause one not to feel physical pain. Depression can make one feel numb Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #134
I wasn't talking about Autism or Asperger's TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #141
Did not know he had congenital analgesia..... haven't seen that mentioned anywhere. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #191
I agree - the babysitter left out that tidbit - or the reporter did. Chemisse Dec 2012 #157
We have no proof this was ever said obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #173
Excellent points. JohnnyLib2 Dec 2012 #53
Finally... OneMoreDemocrat Dec 2012 #54
Your Username is perfect with this post. I thank you for your drop of reason in this sea of madness KittyWampus Dec 2012 #56
Juvenile records are sealed by law... Sedona Dec 2012 #60
well he certainly showed no violent tendencies TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #81
Exactly, thank you for making my point. Sedona Dec 2012 #89
so back we go to that common sense thing TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #100
So we should assume he did? Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #149
Let's not assume he didn't = Let's assume he did. Chemisse Dec 2012 #159
The mother used horrible judgment in keeping a lot of guns around a mentally disturbed son. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #61
what sort of mental disturbance? TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #94
His brother sure seemed to know. Bet Dad knew, too, and was helpless to change things. Nay Dec 2012 #110
And what has Ryan actually SAID? TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #137
Why are you spinning a tale? How about stick to the facts that we have. nt Chemisse Dec 2012 #161
Because he/she is a Nay-sayer (look at the username). MiddleFingerMom Dec 2012 #164
Actually, it's because I have a very long name that my baby brother could not say, and "Nay" Nay Dec 2012 #202
His brother has said no such thing obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #174
Here's what Ryan Lanza said, as reported in the UK Daily Mail.... Nay Dec 2012 #199
I add my Thank You also. Sissyk Dec 2012 #71
I also want to thank you Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #108
Very well said Riftaxe Dec 2012 #125
He did have an "altercation" with four office staff at the school. Sounds serious to Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #127
No he didn't TorchTheWitch Dec 2012 #133
I haven't had time to read the threads you refer to but I thinkyou are correct. There is only one grantcart Dec 2012 #143
Thank you for this Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #145
Thank you! I am so sick of the 'holier than thou s' Chemisse Dec 2012 #155
Very well stated. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #160
Why did she need assault weapons? louis c Dec 2012 #169
thank you -- this obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #172
Why weren't the guns locked up? brush Dec 2012 #175
FWIW the "survivalist" part is not just DU yellowcanine Dec 2012 #176
There's a ton of articles saying this - her sister was the one who reported this. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #194
this picture Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #205
They were married for 28 years BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #4
She initiated the divorce. ananda Dec 2012 #5
Well, we don't know everything. But the mom kept the firearms, right? NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #6
details, shmeetails. joeunderdog Dec 2012 #27
The devil is in the details, which some don't arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #44
Even that is not clear ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #124
The guns belonged to the mother. And they were some pretty scary guns. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #7
I read in several places that she initiated the divorce mentalsolstice Dec 2012 #8
This was exactly my take on it, too. He was already giving her more alimony than was required, Nay Dec 2012 #12
most of which is entirely speculative on your part HiPointDem Dec 2012 #117
All of this is speculative at this point ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #123
Of course it is. I am not a reporter writing a story, or an author writing a book. I am just Nay Dec 2012 #201
In one article I read, the older brother Ryan had not had contact with his younger amandabeech Dec 2012 #129
Yes, that book was chilling and this tragedy reminds me of it as well. n/t Inspired Dec 2012 #33
There is far too much we don't, and may never, know about their family dynamic Siwsan Dec 2012 #9
Does anyone know if the father shared in the love of guns? Hoyt Dec 2012 #10
he was a gun owner as well. reports were the "entire family" used to go to shooting range together bettyellen Dec 2012 #14
Thanks. Exactly what I thought -- kid was brought up in gun culture. Hoyt Dec 2012 #21
yeah, I think they are being a bit unfair to the mom for sticking it out. parents have few options bettyellen Dec 2012 #30
Mom was in bed in her pajamas No Vested Interest Dec 2012 #128
I hope she never knew. Chemisse Dec 2012 #163
Mom kept guns in the house kiva Dec 2012 #11
And that's really where the rubber meets the road Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #45
The landscaper who knew the mother said that she had a lot of bad things to say undeterred Dec 2012 #13
i know he was very generous with alimony, but he was also a gun enthusiast bettyellen Dec 2012 #17
Personally, I blame the son more than either the mother or father. egduj Dec 2012 #15
Color me kooky as well Saboburns Dec 2012 #41
I must be kooky also Sissyk Dec 2012 #77
We are all a product of our childhoods to some degree... cynatnite Dec 2012 #16
Started "a new one" with another woman, I presume. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #18
You certainly do... regnaD kciN Dec 2012 #130
Well, he could have married a man. Odds are, though...nc Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #180
What the ever loving fuck are you talking about. Seriously. Marinedem Dec 2012 #19
Parenthood outlasts marriage. undeterred Dec 2012 #22
So? Marinedem Dec 2012 #29
I guess the proof is in the body count. undeterred Dec 2012 #37
You're a shitty guesser Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #57
Yeah, and you're a genius. undeterred Dec 2012 #115
I thought that both the brother and father said they hadn't spoken to Adam in years. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #135
I agree. undeterred Dec 2012 #144
Bravo Saboburns Dec 2012 #42
Responsibility for safety issues of the former spouse's personal property, kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #83
Did he fail to secure firearms used in a mass murder? jberryhill Dec 2012 #20
She filed for divorce WolverineDG Dec 2012 #24
"Abandoned"? What a pig-ignorant post. nt Codeine Dec 2012 #25
Please describe how Peter Lanza... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #26
Cheated. Nt IdaBriggs Dec 2012 #153
Really???? RetroLounge Dec 2012 #28
Hit & Run OP too. eom ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #36
been here for years. hardly a hit/run poster elehhhhna Dec 2012 #91
Hit & run posting has nothing to do with how long you've been here... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #99
the first sentence of the OP alludes to the point elehhhhna Dec 2012 #103
wise up. GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #31
Way to elevate the discussion. Not. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #34
Well, that is the usual. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #35
In a gun case I'd usually place the blame on the father xmas74 Dec 2012 #90
Yeah. When she kicks him out of the house and cashes the $250,000 annual alimony check. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #93
It is easier to smear the dead. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #39
Probably because they were apparently HER guns, left unlocked. nt Lex Dec 2012 #43
An Absent Dad Is Never Good otohara Dec 2012 #47
wow, are you not a deep thinker. You know people get divorced, right? Logical Dec 2012 #48
That is how it always goes. redqueen Dec 2012 #49
Well, he did live with his mom and it was her guns used. tammywammy Dec 2012 #66
No Sissyk Dec 2012 #82
What about the gun access? brush Dec 2012 #177
Again, Sissyk Dec 2012 #192
You're ignoring the obvious brush Dec 2012 #193
There is not enough information Dorian Gray Dec 2012 #150
Abadoned his 'first' family? one_voice Dec 2012 #50
Um, from Newtown to Stamford is like less than an hour away. Jennicut Dec 2012 #52
Careful Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #55
Exactly. They were only divorced three years ago. redqueen Dec 2012 #59
Does blaming anyone make anyone seriously feel better? Live and Learn Dec 2012 #58
Maybe after the guns began stacking up he feared for his own safety? NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #62
This is complete Bullshit. mn9driver Dec 2012 #63
this is not about you elehhhhna Dec 2012 #67
That's right. The thread is about Mr. Lanza, who no one here knows anything about. /nt mn9driver Dec 2012 #75
this thread is actually about people blaming the mother elehhhhna Dec 2012 #84
That would be why you started it like this: mn9driver Dec 2012 #88
we have an ignore feature. use it. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #97
Heh. I think I'll retain the ability to view and rebut. mn9driver Dec 2012 #102
Some states recognize that women are owed an equitable distribution of the assets, not just the msanthrope Dec 2012 #189
Exactly customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #73
Well you beat me there NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #79
Hey MN9driver Puglover Dec 2012 #203
I am not sure blaming anyone is the answer, but that's what people do. Avalux Dec 2012 #64
I am seeing a lot of evidence that his mother did love and care for him. Chemisse Dec 2012 #165
Don't ever let a ... 99Forever Dec 2012 #65
I do not blame either one. Sissyk Dec 2012 #70
Reasons for the divorce aside customerserviceguy Dec 2012 #72
Enough with the blame. How about some solutions for a change. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #74
+1000 Sissyk Dec 2012 #85
+2000 nt Live and Learn Dec 2012 #106
We're ALL to blame? 99Forever Dec 2012 #107
Yes I did mean it. And it should offend. We need to be offended. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #109
How am I to blame? 99Forever Dec 2012 #112
Because you are also a member of society. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #113
What utter hogwash. 99Forever Dec 2012 #118
It's OK. We're on the same side. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #122
You're a hypocrite. tedzbear Dec 2012 #151
When I say we are all to blame, I mean as a society we are all to blame. Starboard Tack Dec 2012 #182
She supplied the weapons of mass destruction. nt valerief Dec 2012 #78
To me, that really is amuse bouche Dec 2012 #171
In what way did the father have control over the mother's kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #80
Wow just wow Drew Richards Dec 2012 #86
and thy shall know them by their spelling elehhhhna Dec 2012 #98
"THY shall know them by their spelling"...? regnaD kciN Dec 2012 #131
Well, she was a she. What more do we need? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #87
Nope. No misandry on DU. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #92
As the poster of the op that started this... Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #166
Try this one on for size. If custody had been awarded to dad, maybe this wouldn't have happened. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #95
Sounds like dad left all that "old-family" trouble behind--wonder if he kept TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #96
How do you know he abandoned them. I wouldn't say 28 yr married is abandment. southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #101
Dad was cheating, hence the divorce. Nt IdaBriggs Dec 2012 #154
There are tons of people who cheat on spouses but it doesn't lead to a 20 yr old southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #158
He "abandoned" the marriage by cheating. IdaBriggs Dec 2012 #170
Do you have a link for that claim? n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #181
At least one link in one of the half a dozen IdaBriggs Dec 2012 #186
I've read a bunch of threads on this and haven't seen that Fumesucker Dec 2012 #187
Abandoned has a specific meaning in a divorce situation. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #167
i agree with your opinion also. Although divorice is very hard I don't think he just southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #168
280,000/yr alimony == abandoned. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #183
Yep she was crying all the way to the bank. southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #185
now let's mix some gender bashing into this wonderful event..... spanone Dec 2012 #104
Wow. That's a pretty desperate stretch. 2/10 leeroysphitz Dec 2012 #105
I wish Mom had kept her impressive gun collection locked away (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #111
How do you know she didn't? Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #126
I betcha that was the reason for the divorce. He'd found himself a new sweetie. nt raccoon Dec 2012 #114
Yes, all men are evil philanderers Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #116
That scenario happened to several people in my family. In one case, my family member raccoon Dec 2012 #120
As long as we're speaking anecdotally Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #121
I betcha you don't know jack shit about what happened regnaD kciN Dec 2012 #132
doubt it H2O Man Dec 2012 #119
Emphatic K&R! But please do see my OP started in response to your coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #136
i'm not letting him off the hook, i would like to hear more from him JI7 Dec 2012 #138
He tried to atone for his cheating, at least lbrtbell Dec 2012 #139
"Daddy didn't give attention to the fact that mommy didn't care" underpants Dec 2012 #148
I've been thinking of that song and that video too... IcyPeas Dec 2012 #208
Does EVERY issue on DU have to boil down to the man v. woman thing? joeunderdog Dec 2012 #152
Amen! nt raccoon Dec 2012 #162
People do this after every shooting. It's not fair. Dash87 Dec 2012 #184
Are you saying people should remain married forever no matter what? Welcome_hubby Dec 2012 #188
Or perhaps because when he left her he promised her she'd never have to work again? Iris Dec 2012 #206
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