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Kennah

(14,116 posts)
44. Regulating private sales would likely get much bigger support
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 05:19 AM
Dec 2012

It too wouldn't change any mass killing. Mass killings didn't end or subside under an AWB.

A real ban on all semiautos might change mass killings, but that would ensure 300 GOOPers in the House, 60+ in the Senate, and George P or Jeb in the White House. Then let the destruction of this nation REALLY begin.

those are all the Democrats least likely to vote for such a measure Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #1
Yes they are. But Dem turnout is weak in a mid-term election. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #2
Blue dogs also lost because of health care reform, despite voting against it. Recursion Dec 2012 #3
Many also lost in '94 even tho they voted against the Brady Bill in '93... Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #5
Honestly people who say "I don't vote the party, I vote the candidate" bug the hell out of me Recursion Dec 2012 #8
+1 PennsylvaniaMatt Dec 2012 #23
Every Democrat in the Senate (including the blue dogs) voted in favor of the ACA... PoliticAverse Dec 2012 #15
I was thinking of the House. Your Gene Taylors and Ike Skeltons Recursion Dec 2012 #18
Some of those are not winnable now. Chan790 Dec 2012 #4
And yet the first AWB expired after Columbine... friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #57
There was public support for its' extension... Chan790 Dec 2012 #68
if a serious gun ban passed, so be it spanone Dec 2012 #6
It won't be. The GOP House won't allow such. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #11
Exactly democrattotheend Dec 2012 #27
If someone could come up with a gun ban that would actually keep criminals from getting guns... Recursion Dec 2012 #12
I agree. jorno67 Dec 2012 #7
Not a sure thing some minds are changing. rwheeler31 Dec 2012 #9
You're right. It would also affect Congress. It appears, however, that a great many do not care. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #10
Wow, that's some threat. ProSense Dec 2012 #13
Come up with a ban that will actually keep criminals from getting guns. That would be worth... Recursion Dec 2012 #17
Thanks for the NRA talking points Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #30
I'm talking about the majority of crimes, not the corner case of spree shootings Recursion Dec 2012 #61
Fact check LibertarianMI Jan 2013 #79
This JohLast Dec 2012 #31
That is insane. lbrtbell Dec 2012 #54
+1. Well said friendly_iconoclast Dec 2012 #58
A 'serious' gun ban isn't in the cards. earthside Dec 2012 #14
I agree with you totally. .... spin Dec 2012 #21
i would have agreed with you on thursday. unblock Dec 2012 #16
Democrats will lose in 2012 if there's still a depression MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #19
The economy was improving just before the election. ... spin Dec 2012 #25
Many losing candidates run on the failed strategy of "I'm not the other guy" Kennah Dec 2012 #28
Great reply. I'll have to memorize your "brilliant" strategy comment for future use. (n/t) spin Dec 2012 #42
Awesome quote.. letemrot Dec 2012 #43
Please do Kennah Dec 2012 #45
The wind is at liberals' backs. Gun culture will fall as the white male diminishes. onehandle Dec 2012 #20
Democrats would lose the south if they supported civil rights. The Link Dec 2012 #22
The GOP might lose the House if one isn't Major Nikon Dec 2012 #24
Max Baucus & Mark Pryor would survive. Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2012 #26
A gun ban is more effective at electing Republicans than anything Rove can do. Kennah Dec 2012 #29
passing ACA didn't get republicans elected liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #32
Because the nation WANTED it. Clinton's Assault Weapon ban wasn't wanted. Kennah Dec 2012 #33
actually the majority were against ACA when first passed liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #34
Similarly with the AWB Kennah Dec 2012 #35
general violence is down, mass murders involving automatic or semi automics are up liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #36
The argument might work ... Kennah Dec 2012 #38
I think the AWB is the middle ground liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #39
The AWB was seen as radical in 1994, and I think it's seen as even more radical now Kennah Dec 2012 #40
I don't think it is seen as radical now liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #41
Regulating private sales would likely get much bigger support Kennah Dec 2012 #44
there comes a time when you can't be afraid of the politics liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #46
You have to be afraid of the slaughter that could be far worse Kennah Dec 2012 #48
I don't think it is a losing issue liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #49
We shall see--If the politicians think it is Kennah Dec 2012 #51
Not so much "radical" as "stupid", at least the one we passed in 1994 Recursion Dec 2012 #64
Yep! nt Kahuna Dec 2012 #70
I completely disagree. Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #37
uh, with the exception of Rockefeller, they're all at big time risk already. cali Dec 2012 #47
Define "serious gun ban." leftlibdem420 Dec 2012 #50
OK, find a way to do one without the other Recursion Dec 2012 #62
Many said that was a reason to oppose gay marriage as well. nt Bonobo Dec 2012 #52
honestly, I think the ground has shifted this week. Deep13 Dec 2012 #53
I agree this is absolutely no possibility whatsoever of ANY meaningful gun legislation passing Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #55
all of these are Blue Dogs DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #56
So what's your solution to gun violence? Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #59
Tough. It's time to fucking do something. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #60
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #63
Thank You Berserker Dec 2012 #71
Looks like my alert got your Republican buddy banned Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #73
This right wing troll UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #72
Well... BrentWil Dec 2012 #65
To save children from dying I would gladly sacrafice these fools. MyNameGoesHere Dec 2012 #66
Generally speaking, gun control is a losing issue for Democrats. Laelth Dec 2012 #67
The NRA helped to defeat Al Gore. Since then, it is the real third rail for Dems. Kahuna Dec 2012 #69
I looked at the list you have here and I suspect you are correct. Sadly. jwirr Dec 2012 #74
8 Senators or 20 dead kids _ed_ Dec 2012 #75
Really, then why did we win 2008 and 2012 because the NRA was 100% against voting for the Dems still_one Dec 2012 #76
If we make it about gun control Politicalboi Dec 2012 #77
AWB a bad idea LibertarianMI Jan 2013 #78
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