Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
32. Macho fantasy?!!
Sun Dec 16, 2012, 03:59 AM
Dec 2012

First of all, I think macho is a masculine term and the people who were running to gunfire were women; I've read that the principal was killed when she tried to stop him and that all of the adults killed were women.

Second, this wasn't a fantasy at all, it was real life. She went beyond the call of duty to charge a shooting lunatic--and you are happy that she had to do so unarmed, because it's possible that someone might have gotten hit by crossfire?!!

But even if it was a guy, it was well beyond macho. And it was not done to aggrandize anyone's ego; it was done out of horrifying necessity. If you would put down that cartoon lens, you might be able to look past the silly stereotypes to reality.

Let's apply this type of logic to another subject.

Doctor: If we do the operation, we have a better chance of stopping your cancer than by any other means.

You: Because we all know that no one ever dies or is injured in surgery!


A gun would have given the heroic principal and other women in that school a fighting chance against that maniac. It is the single best way to stop an active shooter, as a general rule. While I am sure that there are many who would want these women to have to engage in hand-to-rifle combat in defense of a child they loved, I am not among them. And of course there are associated risks, there are risks with everything.
The NRA cares - the more people guns kill, the more illogical paranoia they can whip up MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #1
sounds like an assault pistol to me spanone Dec 2012 #2
Do you think Obama will address this once it dies down in the Media? KoKo Dec 2012 #3
Federal bans on extended clips nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #13
I agree. How many bullets could a gun hold in the days the Constitution was written? pnwmom Dec 2012 #15
It's not just that. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #17
The "hodgepodge" of state laws would be a good first effort... KoKo Dec 2012 #18
My solution to that nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #22
Good Points...but, can we hope to get to a society that doesn't want to KoKo Dec 2012 #24
In single shot it is nowhere close to assault, well except in looks nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #25
I agree, and I am a gun owner Andy823 Dec 2012 #4
The only reasons to have a magazine that big are mass murder and combat ItsTheMediaStupid Dec 2012 #5
Actually the only reason is target shooting. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #19
you sir are a gun owner and not a gun nut Skittles Dec 2012 #8
And the military does not use extra large capacity magazines. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #14
That sort of weapon has no business being in the public or owned by a private citizen. It has ONE Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #6
Yes. aquart Dec 2012 #7
You care, that's who TPaine7 Dec 2012 #9
That's a fair cop. cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #11
Thanks for the civility. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #12
That was before I learned there WAS such a thing as a semi-automatic pistol pnwmom Dec 2012 #16
Agree...I didn't know that either. What possible reason would one need to own one of these KoKo Dec 2012 #20
It's certainly not a 100% thing, but if it were MY child, I would have preferred that a teacher or TPaine7 Dec 2012 #23
Because we all know the cross fire would not hit anybody nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #26
Where do you derive your expertise on firearms and defense? nt rDigital Dec 2012 #30
Among other things from having been in real shootouts between the cartels nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #31
'Among other things from having been in real shootouts between the cartels" zappaman Dec 2012 #39
Macho fantasy?!! TPaine7 Dec 2012 #32
I am sorry, but guns every where will not make things nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #33
I am sorry, but content free false and emotional language like TPaine7 Dec 2012 #34
You repeat NRA talking points, divorced from reality nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #35
BS. I addressed exactly what you said. Unless the NRA has a psychic/prophet TPaine7 Dec 2012 #36
You repeated NRA talking points nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #37
. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #38
That's an extended mag nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #27
Always confront ambiguity. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #28
definitely that's one thing we can work to change NoMoreWarNow Dec 2012 #10
If we implemented a $10/grain tax on gunpowder RomneyLies Dec 2012 #21
Good luck with that. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #29
Semiautomatic pistols should be banned, IMO. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #40
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»When a Glock semi-automat...»Reply #32