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AtheistCrusader

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43. Bazookas are classified as explosives and destructive devices.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:46 PM
Dec 2012

Not firearms. Therefore, the courts have never held them to be protected under the 2nd Amendment. It is, in some cases, possible to possess them anyway, with various permits and such. It is extremely expensive, but possible.

AR-15's, however, are firearms, the line of logic then fails, per the SC.

In US. Vs. Miller, they ruled the public didn't have the right to possess short barreled shotguns, because they were not in common use by any military. (This was an error, but the defense didn't present the fact that there are SBR's and SBS's in use around the world by militaries, since Miller had died, and his counsel wandered off before the court got underway on the case.)

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Buddaman Dec 2012 #1
Why don't you take the guns from the criminals and thugs Skip Intro Dec 2012 #2
Beacuse the ones the "law-abiding citizens" own find their way to the criminals. morningfog Dec 2012 #4
And also Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #9
Welcome to DU, Justin_Beach. calimary Dec 2012 #60
Thanks for the welcome Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #125
Like all of these! calimary Dec 2012 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author Chorophyll Dec 2012 #68
ding ding ding!!!!! You got it! nt Tumbulu Dec 2012 #49
Therefore we must...? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #59
Require gun registration and enforce liability on gun owners when morningfog Dec 2012 #63
Registration is fine, but let me ask you, Skip Intro Dec 2012 #66
No. If you failed to properly secure your gun and it was used in a crime, morningfog Dec 2012 #75
Say I live alone, keep a gun under my mattress. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #85
That's not what I said. morningfog Dec 2012 #88
I'm asking you. Would I be liable in that situation? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #91
It sounds like you would have a reasonable defense in that situation. morningfog Dec 2012 #95
You should be. TransitJohn Dec 2012 #145
Please never run for office. nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #146
If your guns get stolen then you have the duty to report your guns stole to the police. Chisox08 Dec 2012 #78
Yeah, I'm sure most would report their guns stolen. nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #82
Why wouldn't you report your registered gun to the police if it were stolen? morningfog Dec 2012 #89
I would. I'm sure the vast majority of legal owners would. nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #94
Oh, gotcha. Sorry, I read it as sarcasm. morningfog Dec 2012 #97
Where do you think they get them from, the gun fairy? DainBramaged Dec 2012 #5
Wait, so in order to stop thugs from having guns, we must Skip Intro Dec 2012 #14
AGAIN, IF YOU READ THE POST INSTEAD OF GETTING YOUR NRA UP DainBramaged Dec 2012 #15
Ohhh...all caps, with a veiled NRA accusation. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #28
HAHAHAHAHA nice try yep, have a nice night Skip DainBramaged Dec 2012 #29
I think you might need some rest man. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #31
Nope not since the '60's DainBramaged Dec 2012 #33
o - k... Skip Intro Dec 2012 #36
Jesus fucking Christ on a popsicle stick is this last sentence plain enough? DainBramaged Dec 2012 #37
I'm going to suggest some rest one more time. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #42
You have revealed yourself as a rude person Tumbulu Dec 2012 #51
I have been rude? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #55
Kind of strange, isn't it?? Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #64
Thanks Ghost.... DainBramaged Dec 2012 #73
Dude, you know I pick at you because I like you, right? If I didn't, I wouldn't give you the time of Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #121
Oh man, Ghost. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #90
Read my above reply to him. it'll explain a lot... Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #122
classy Skip Intro Dec 2012 #124
A constitutional right does not mean an unrestricted right. iemitsu Dec 2012 #93
For all we know this murderer was a law-abiding citizen before he killed those children. Chisox08 Dec 2012 #79
Dude, we're not taking any, we're just going to stop the proliferation DainBramaged Dec 2012 #6
I'd rather eliminate the ammo Generic Brad Dec 2012 #13
I say hold the ammo manufacturers liable for damages Tumbulu Dec 2012 #54
Background checks nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #20
take your precious away DainBramaged Dec 2012 #23
I think your "gun fairy" line was better... regnaD kciN Dec 2012 #40
Wow. Why the snark? Can we only talk of the issue Skip Intro Dec 2012 #30
Dude I keep reading your posts, but all I can think about is that Chorophyll Dec 2012 #69
Well, I wasn't addressing you, but Skip Intro Dec 2012 #77
I know you weren't addressing me. But as you've just pointed out, this is a discussion board. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #99
Again, I don't know that it could have been prevented. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #106
How would any of that helped today? ComplimentarySwine Dec 2012 #115
We are talking of long range policies that will start to stem this nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #117
Because "law-abiding citizens" that own firearms are such...right up to the moment they decide Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #65
Ban car radios? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #67
And what are your guns (presuming you have some) Chorophyll Dec 2012 #70
I'm not sure it could have been prevented. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #81
He blew away 20 kids with his mother's guns. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #98
Ultimately, it is up to you to protect yourself. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #104
You obviously don't have children. Was it up to those kindergarten kids to defend themselves? Chorophyll Dec 2012 #107
Don't do that. Don't be dishonest. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #118
Was there anything that could have been done? Yukari Yakumo Dec 2012 #83
You can't prevent every single bad thing from happening, no. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #102
Go and try to buy a ton of anhydrous ammonia, then get back to me. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #138
Now you got it, yes we ban all automatics, hand guns, and clips with more than 5 shots. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #103
I didn't say that, but I don't disagree with all of it. nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #108
Why do law abiding billh58 Dec 2012 #72
Because the criminals and thugs do not as a rule go around shooting up schools and Malls. RC Dec 2012 #92
And how many were shot to death in Chicago this year? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #101
You are just so so wrong DainBramaged Dec 2012 #109
About what? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #116
The dead children are speaking to the promoters of the tools of killing. Lint Head Dec 2012 #3
Time to ban all "Massacre Magazines"* RomneyLies Dec 2012 #7
My three high capacity glock 19 magazines means I can take out 57 people rustydog Dec 2012 #22
Thank you abelenkpe Dec 2012 #32
Thank you. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #74
Guns don't kill people ... Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #8
What you didn't like I brushed your ass off so you're going to haunt me? DainBramaged Dec 2012 #17
Sorry dude Justin_Beach Dec 2012 #24
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DainBramaged Dec 2012 #25
Well I vote that we ban you- get out of here! Tumbulu Dec 2012 #56
Guns don't kill people - people kill people. airplaneman Dec 2012 #100
Its not about clinging to guns. I dont even own a gun. It's about common freakin sense davidn3600 Dec 2012 #10
people like you who want to trample our freedoms = Right wing talking point DainBramaged Dec 2012 #12
Ok...so now Im a right winger... davidn3600 Dec 2012 #18
You still didn't read the post DainBramaged Dec 2012 #21
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #44
Should I be impressed tough hombre? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #52
I don't want to take your guns away Sparky DainBramaged Dec 2012 #57
wow slow down sparky... humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #41
Believe me, this logical argument will not work on the DU. n-t Logical Dec 2012 #34
Well said. Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #11
The Second Amendment DOESN'T protect your right to own a bazooka... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2012 #16
The 2nd doesn't protect your right to own ANY modern gun, period DainBramaged Dec 2012 #19
An equally plausible argument can be made... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #35
This line of logic has been tried with the 2nd and the 1st amendments both. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #45
I concur. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #50
Bazookas are classified as explosives and destructive devices. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #43
Realistically you can't ban them nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #26
We've tried for years, they have foiled us at every turn DainBramaged Dec 2012 #27
Why I said what you need to do nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #53
It is the gun ATTITUDE BlueStreak Dec 2012 #38
So true!!!!! nt Tumbulu Dec 2012 #61
Sounds like someone fired up and ready to go... humbled_opinion Dec 2012 #39
Disarm the Thugs, not the legal abiding citizens Walter White Dec 2012 #46
For you too: did the gun fairy give them their guns? DainBramaged Dec 2012 #62
Please identify all the "thugs" _ed_ Dec 2012 #129
No more of this "guns don't kill people, people kill people" bull crap! LibGranny Dec 2012 #47
Make guns a lot harder to obtain - no more LibGranny Dec 2012 #48
I dunno what the fuck to do... Bigmack Dec 2012 #58
Well we could start with registering them and licensing their use Tumbulu Dec 2012 #71
Republicans see to have all sorts of ideas how to limit voter registration. Surely ... BlueStreak Dec 2012 #80
great article Tumbulu Dec 2012 #105
It is probably worth noting that a lot of people opposed seat belt laws BlueStreak Dec 2012 #131
And the media is a huge part of the “Fear and anger”. Bleeds it leads,, just spews fear into every busterbrown Dec 2012 #84
20 dead kids is certaintly not "if it bleeds it leads" DainBramaged Dec 2012 #86
Come on man......Read what I was responding to before you start attacking!!!!! busterbrown Dec 2012 #148
Excellent Post...Thanks! KoKo Dec 2012 #76
Well said!!! Stellar Dec 2012 #87
To those who must have guns in your house.... defacto7 Dec 2012 #96
Not afraid, just prepared. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #112
You are a perfect example of the idea defacto7 Dec 2012 #120
And you don't know wtf you are talking about. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #123
and you speak with as much authority defacto7 Dec 2012 #126
lol Skip Intro Dec 2012 #132
good luck! defacto7 Dec 2012 #149
They ALL think SOMEONE is out to get them, invade their homes, rob their stuff DainBramaged Dec 2012 #128
Damn, what racist bullshit is that? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #135
You've really jumped into the deep end haven't you? DainBramaged Dec 2012 #136
Reality: Skip Intro Dec 2012 #137
Enjoy the increased risk of death _ed_ Dec 2012 #130
Tell you what, Skip Intro Dec 2012 #133
Yep, damn the facts _ed_ Dec 2012 #139
I'm sure the people dead in the stories at that link Skip Intro Dec 2012 #142
Go give your guns a hug _ed_ Dec 2012 #143
Sorry that reality doesn't mesh with your bs. Skip Intro Dec 2012 #144
K&R MotherPetrie Dec 2012 #110
300 million guns? robinlynne Dec 2012 #111
Why Were ALL the Guns Registered to the Killer's Mother? triplepoint Dec 2012 #113
Maybe she bought them for him, then realized he was nuts? DainBramaged Dec 2012 #114
300 million + guns and there are people who want more. Gun hording is a disease and must be stopped revmclaren Dec 2012 #119
I love that pic, Dain! totally true! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #134
I think in order to find a solution we have to look at a lot of different factors.. rainlillie Dec 2012 #140
Then you don't trust them for having guns DainBramaged Dec 2012 #141
K&R...interesting! KoKo Dec 2012 #147
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