Fri Dec 14, 2012, 10:22 PM

Chicago banned handguns 28 years ago. 5000 killed there by guns. Are we safe yet? [View all]

More people were killed in Chicago, 5000 since 2001 (with guns) than US troops killed in the war zone of Afghanistan. Obviously banning guns doesn't make us safer. Why are people so afraid to confront the real issue? A recent study reported that 1 in 5 American adults takes at least one psychiatric drug to treat depression and/or anxiety, a 22 percent increase since 2001

The Daily pointed out in a Friday column that more Chicago residents -- 228 -- have been killed so far this year in the city than the number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan - 144 -- over the same period.

The war zone-like statistics are not new. As WBEZ reports, while some 2,000 U.S. troops have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001, more than 5,000 people have been killed by gun fire in Chicago during that time, based on Department of Defense and FBI data.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/chicago-homicide-rate-wor_n_1602692.html

The Supreme Court's Monday ruling invalidated Chicago's 28-year-old ban on handguns for all practical purposes, and while people like South Side grandfather Otis McDonald celebrate, others are not as excited.

McDonald, who filed the lawsuit that led to the court's decision, has been making the media rounds and saying that he is happy he can finally buy a gun--to protect himself from the thugs in his neighborhood.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/29/chicago-gun-ban-reversal_n_629187.html

A recent study reported that 1 in 5 American adults takes at least one psychiatric drug to treat depression and/or anxiety, a 22 percent increase since 2001. Do you get what this means? This means that in an office of 100 people, 20 of them – enough to form an entire department – will be on medication.

In the average family of 2 parents and 2 1/2 kids, one of them will eventually take psychiatric drugs. At your next high school reunion of 1,000 graduates, 200 of them will be on mind-altering drugs.

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Chicago banned handguns 28 years ago. 5000 killed there by guns. Are we safe yet? [View all]	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	OP
Ban all guns then	SoonerPride	Dec 2012	#1
+1	femmocrat	Dec 2012	#2
What do you intend to do with all the guns out there?	Codeine	Dec 2012	#6
Melt them down	SoonerPride	Dec 2012	#9
Who's going to collect them? nt	Codeine	Dec 2012	#12
No one would need to collect them	DisgustipatedinCA	Dec 2012	#16
What an amazing kneejerk and after you've imprisoned more americans that at any time in history will	Kurska	Dec 2012	#43
So in other word....totalitarianism is the answer?	davidn3600	Dec 2012	#47
agreed...we need more of this attitude	backwoodsbob	Dec 2012	#54
We don't have to re-invent this wheel..........	TheDebbieDee	Dec 2012	#18
Color me clueless... how did they get "rid" of handguns in Europe?	cherokeeprogressive	Dec 2012	#51
No that's not what I'm saying, but the number of handguns there has been restricted enough	TheDebbieDee	Dec 2012	#93
What worked in Europe would fail in the United States at this time. ...	spin	Dec 2012	#62
Who the fuck cares what kind of a NIGHTMARE it is?	Zoeisright	Dec 2012	#46
No need to worry about it because it would never happen.	Kennah	Dec 2012	#52
You don't even have to officially repeal it	Ter	Dec 2012	#29
The weaponeers seem to be running with this "mental health and antidepressants" meme lately	Kolesar	Dec 2012	#3
It IS true.	Mojorabbit	Dec 2012	#58
Ban overturned by the McDonald v. Chicago ruling in 2010	RomneyLies	Dec 2012	#4
+1	krawhitham	Dec 2012	#30
Funny how the OP missed that tidbit. nt	laundry_queen	Dec 2012	#36
They passed a new just as strict ban n/t	Kurska	Dec 2012	#45
Good	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#48
I see the gun fellatiators are running out of talking points.	Arctic Dave	Dec 2012	#5
They could claim more people die from global warming than gunfire. But that would mean they believe	Happyhippychick	Dec 2012	#15
Calling me an asshat and horseshit isn't going to solve anything. This has everything to do	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	#22
So are the people killing people in Mexico all crazy? NOOOOOO	Arctic Dave	Dec 2012	#27
No Dave, the people killing people in Mexico are cartels who were armed by the US government through	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	#42
the chicago killings are also inter-gang drugtrade driven for	elehhhhna	Dec 2012	#57
Curiously enough Mexico has some of the strictest gun controls laws IN THE WORLD.	Edweird	Dec 2012	#75
well it makes us feel better, posting in defense of guns right after this event	Demonaut	Dec 2012	#35
You use the "cars kill people" talking point	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#50
Also when they talk about war deaths they only seem to talk about one side	Bandit	Dec 2012	#81
For starters, maybe non-Chicagoans might... ah, fuck it.	Gidney N Cloyd	Dec 2012	#7
What they forget to tell you about Chicago is the fact that there is no longer a ban	RomneyLies	Dec 2012	#17
THe NRA and their memes can go to hell.	myrna minx	Dec 2012	#8
How can that help when a gun show 5 miles away is still selling automatic weapons? nt	LittlestStar	Dec 2012	#10
It costs a fortune to buy an automatic weapon	Mojorabbit	Dec 2012	#60
Suicidal tendencies and violent, destructive thoughts behavioral side effects	lunasun	Dec 2012	#11
300 million guns in the US. Are we safe yet?	neverforget	Dec 2012	#13
+1	moondust	Dec 2012	#37
Bunch of fucking lies.	ThatPoetGuy	Dec 2012	#14
first rule of fight club	tiny elvis	Dec 2012	#19
We'll be safer if we ban ammo	Generic Brad	Dec 2012	#20
Don't know about Chicago (thugs took over during the ban?) but stats prove you're wrong.	Honeycombe8	Dec 2012	#21
Waiting periods seem like a great idea	Kolesar	Dec 2012	#24
I have a gun for protection. I would have no problem with a waiting period....	Honeycombe8	Dec 2012	#68
& If some of the customers are unavailable, then the market price for the product drops	Kolesar	Dec 2012	#72
The NRA leadership is a true terrorist organization	fearnobush	Dec 2012	#23
Let's just ban all laws since so many people flout them anyway	MotherPetrie	Dec 2012	#25
There ya go!	forestpath	Dec 2012	#26
Your post made me sad. I was alive at a time when people still believed in personal responsibility.	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	#40
"We didn't need laws...." ARE YOU COMPLETELY STUPID??	WinkyDink	Dec 2012	#76
Libertarian horseshit. Nt.	Starry Messenger	Dec 2012	#85
The bodies are still fucking warm	sellitman	Dec 2012	#87
I think you're looking for LibertarianUnderground.com	theKed	Dec 2012	#89
What color is the sky in Personal Responsibilityland?	Ikonoklast	Dec 2012	#91
This post was hidden by jury decision.	RetroLounge	Dec 2012	#28
Chicago doesn't have a border patrol.	WinkyDink	Dec 2012	#31
Sometimes an OP is SO stupid that it defies belief.	Bonobo	Dec 2012	#32
keep on defending the indefensible...douchebag arguement	Demonaut	Dec 2012	#33
Because Chicago is an island totally cut off from the US mainland, right?	Spider Jerusalem	Dec 2012	#34
Banning on the federal level worked really well for drugs. The government became the dealers the	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	#38
Except we're not talking about drugs, are we?	Spider Jerusalem	Dec 2012	#39
Do you really believe all those fully automatic weapons just disappeared from the hands of the	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	#41
You clearly have no idea what sort of person I happen to be	Spider Jerusalem	Dec 2012	#53
This post was hidden by jury decision.	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	#56
Another stupid false equivalency.	Zoeisright	Dec 2012	#55
No drugs cant go on a murder spree but the US government can arm the bad guys as they've done	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	#59
For your excuse to work there would have to be zero guns anywhere in the world.	Edweird	Dec 2012	#80
Because London and Melbourne and Tokyo have serious gun crime problems, right?	Spider Jerusalem	Dec 2012	#95
Does Chicago have a 30 foot wall around it?	Zoeisright	Dec 2012	#44
It's not false. My point is the US government supplies the weapons to the criminals once you make	DaniDubois	Dec 2012	#61
anyone who believes this OP is serious should read this post.	Democracyinkind	Dec 2012	#64
Somebody spent too much time in the room with the tube of airplane glue open...eom	Kolesar	Dec 2012	#66
You did not mention gang violence in your OP	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#49
FBI: Burgeoning gangs behind up to 80% of U.S. crime	former-republican	Dec 2012	#63
80% of shootings in the country are gang related?	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#86
Prove it wrong	former-republican	Dec 2012	#90
Your the one making the assertion	AgingAmerican	Dec 2012	#96
OP logic...	Democracyinkind	Dec 2012	#65
12 hours after the fact, cops still busy recording blood spatter data in the kindergarten . . .	hatrack	Dec 2012	#67
You really should remove	pintobean	Dec 2012	#69
Why do you imagine that I care what you think?	hatrack	Dec 2012	#70
This message was self-deleted by its author	pintobean	Dec 2012	#73
Well said...eom	Kolesar	Dec 2012	#82
Chicago violence stems from poverty & lack of opportunity.	JaneyVee	Dec 2012	#71
So the basic premise of your horseshit post...	99Forever	Dec 2012	#74
That is a very typical tactic, isn't it?	LisaLynne	Dec 2012	#77
It's the same play that always gets used.	99Forever	Dec 2012	#83
Oh, well, that would be silly!	LisaLynne	Dec 2012	#84
More RW gun-nut stupidity.	baldguy	Dec 2012	#78
go away gun NUTS	spanone	Dec 2012	#79
Keep the guns, ban the ammo.	Beacool	Dec 2012	#88
The supply of easily obtainable firearms is a NATIONAL problem...	OldDem2012	Dec 2012	#92
Jury voted 4-2 to keep NRA gun troll post. Too bad.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#94
I don't think the gun nuts appreciate our anger.	Bonobo	Dec 2012	#97
I've already said repeatedly "alert on all of them and vote to hide".	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#98
What you are saying is "I won't let them take	retread	Dec 2012	#99