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Warpy

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2. Nut control is right. Dismantling the state mental health system

Fri Dec 14, 2012, 09:52 PM

Dec 2012

in the name of "deinstitutionalization" has been as big a flop as "trickle down" and "free trade." All of them need to be relegated to the scrap heap of horrid history.

Mama knew he was sick and Mama still bought him his guns.

The more I learn about this, the sicker it all gets.

Abandoning the too-strict "danger to oneself or others" legal standard that means a person can be involuntarily committed only if he's there with a weapon in his hand might be the best first step.

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Connecticut Shooter Adam Lanza: 'Obviously Not Well' [View all] FarCenter Dec 2012 OP

Another troubled family BeyondGeography Dec 2012 #1

Nut control is right. Dismantling the state mental health system Warpy Dec 2012 #2

He also has a juvenile record with the police FarCenter Dec 2012 #3

The "institutions" for the most part were horrendous charnel houses Fumesucker Dec 2012 #4

Some people need a supervised living setting - keeping them in the community is not an answer. FarCenter Dec 2012 #7

America isn't going to spend the money to do mental health care remotely right Fumesucker Dec 2012 #10

+1 n/t LarryNM Dec 2012 #29

I worked in one Warpy Dec 2012 #11

Amen to that, I have a sister who has diagnosed mental problems Trailrider1951 Dec 2012 #14

Yes - I don't know how families with members who are mentally ill do it. Iris Dec 2012 #22

+1000 Cetacea Dec 2012 #28

Maybe she didn't buy those guns for him. They were hers; maybe she inherited them. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #6

She's the one who bought them. Warpy Dec 2012 #8

So maybe she bought them for herself. Why would anyone think she bought them for him? Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #20

Adam Lanza: What We Think We Know About the Apparent Newtown Shooter FarCenter Dec 2012 #9

One of the tv reports said he stole the rifle. It was the two pistols that were owned by his mom.nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #19

ABC local says that his mother owned a Bushmaster rifle + "numerous weapons", FarCenter Dec 2012 #23

Wow. No wonder the guy reached for a gun to vent his issues. He was surrounded by Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #24

I'm all for patients rights. Cetacea Dec 2012 #17

Lobotomies haven't been done for years Warpy Dec 2012 #26

Yes. They found a "cleaner" way of doing it with drugs and ECT. Cetacea Dec 2012 #27

Drugs and ECT are not equivalent to lobotomies. Warpy Dec 2012 #30

Have a series and get back to me. Better yet, do it on national TV with a six month follow-up. Cetacea Dec 2012 #31

Any crank with an opinion can go on TV these days Warpy Dec 2012 #33

Any crank can post here. Cetacea Dec 2012 #34

Ya know, the term "nut job" is a big part of the problem., easttexaslefty Dec 2012 #21

GOOD bye. Warpy Dec 2012 #25

Maybe she tried to stop him. I wonder why she had two guns? (He stole the rifle, I think.) nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #5

We need to step up HappyMe Dec 2012 #12

We can't "de-stigmitize" through further stigmatization. Though your intent is noble. n/t Cetacea Dec 2012 #15

I would imagine the first step would be to stop calling those with mental health issues 'nuts'. renie408 Dec 2012 #13

Yup. It's really as bad, perhaps worse, than the "n" word. Cetacea Dec 2012 #16

"Nuts" has been used a lot today. FarCenter Dec 2012 #18

He was on medication FarCenter Dec 2012 #32