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ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
65. Reading is fundamental.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 07:32 PM
Dec 2012

"Assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are two different things for any of the nonsense definitions of "assault weapon" you chose to use.

Please don't wallow in your ignorance, it does not become you, nor does it help the conversation.

If you don't want to talk about the details, then just don't talk about them. If you chose to talk about the details and you get them wrong, expect to be corrected on it.

Actually, he had two handguns. (And people with rifles are not bulletproof) cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #1
Didn't you "actually" read the post? He had several weapons, including a high-powered rifle. pnwmom Dec 2012 #2
With guns it's more about who is first to hit the other rather than the power of the weapon Fumesucker Dec 2012 #4
He's the one with the plan and he's the one with the bullet proof vest. pnwmom Dec 2012 #6
Depends on the individual and the situation Fumesucker Dec 2012 #13
And what is possible and even likely is that any concealed carry pistol pnwmom Dec 2012 #18
Agreed. Fearless Dec 2012 #20
That's a different point than the one I was arguing Fumesucker Dec 2012 #36
Certainly possible. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #59
Nope, I'm not going to bother because I've cited the Harvard research dozens of times here. pnwmom Dec 2012 #62
That's not how gun combat works. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #19
If rifles and "bullet proof vests (they aren't)" confered invincibility.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #41
1) That story is most likely wrong -- it repeats something said hours ago and since cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #5
No , this report is based on the most recent information. pnwmom Dec 2012 #8
No, it wasn't an "assault rifle". n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #45
Only gun nuts care to quibble about whether a gun is an "assault rifle" or an "assault weapon." pnwmom Dec 2012 #48
Words have meanings. It helps to pick the correct ones. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #56
This is a distinction without a difference. How does it help to pick the "correct" word? pnwmom Dec 2012 #68
Here you go shadowrider Dec 2012 #72
Wasn't he wearing a kevlar vest? Larkspur Dec 2012 #3
A report said that he was wearing a military style vest. The report didn't say whether it was bluestate10 Dec 2012 #7
A ballistic vest does not confer invincibility. PavePusher Dec 2012 #46
The MSM sites disagree with that rifle description. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #9
CCW pistols result in more accidental deaths than they ever help people pnwmom Dec 2012 #11
That depends on your limited definition of "help". ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #14
No, they don't. PavePusher Dec 2012 #47
The AP is part of the MSM and the AP says it was a .223 rifle. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #42
Exactly. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #50
it's highpowered enough to fucking kill an entire classroom of 6 year-olds. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #55
Getting the details wrong is not the same as not discussing the details. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #58
oh you're the gun police? thanks. very important role. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #61
The article says it was. And no one but gun fans quibbles pnwmom Dec 2012 #63
The media almost never gets it right. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #64
But, but, the gun rights folks say there's no such thing as an "assault rifle"!! kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #10
Close, but you meant "assault weapon". ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #16
A rifle is a weapon, right? That means an assault rifle is an assault weapon. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #33
You need to educate yourself as you have no clue what you are talking about. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #52
So do you maintain that a rifle is not a weapon? kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #60
Reading is fundamental. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #65
That is because they are using a very close definition nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #27
You mean they are parsing the word, sort of like the whole thing about kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #31
No, it's the 1934 law legal definition nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #35
Nicely explained. Thank you! ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #54
If it was a AR15, it was probably made in Connecticut FarCenter Dec 2012 #12
Up to 6 rounds a second if you can hit the trigger that fast. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #15
It could only shoot 6 bullets a second if the shooter is able to pull the trigger six times per.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #17
Does six three or one times a second matter against children? Fearless Dec 2012 #21
I am SO glad you pointed that out for me! A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #23
Really? I point out that you're misguided and you snark me? Fearless Dec 2012 #25
Excuse me, but how in the bloody hell am I "misguided"? A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #32
You've missed the point entirely and I have no intention of snarking you. Fearless Dec 2012 #34
Oh, for fucks sake. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #37
You made my point for me better than I ever could. Fearless Dec 2012 #38
And your point was? A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #43
Why shouldnt we politicize it? TimKeller Dec 2012 #22
It does need to be discussed Fearless Dec 2012 #26
Is there word yet on how the gunman died? eom ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #24
No. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #28
Question then...what purpose would more gun control laws serve? Roland99 Dec 2012 #29
It's not an assault rifle; it's "assault style" - assault rifles are select fire REP Dec 2012 #40
Correct -- and this is not a "machine gun" obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #49
No doubt about that. REP Dec 2012 #53
I feel the same way obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #57
rifle...style...wtfe...you didn't answer the question. Roland99 Dec 2012 #67
I did; weapons bought before the ban are legal to retain ownership of, but not legal to resell. REP Dec 2012 #69
and the shooter bought this rifle before the ban? Roland99 Dec 2012 #71
It was a Bushmaster. Are_grits_groceries Dec 2012 #30
A popular make of semi-automatic civilian rifles REP Dec 2012 #39
KNR...the NRA apologists are all over this thread...pathetic joeybee12 Dec 2012 #44
"They wants to takes the precious ... We needs it" Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #51
We need to make people reload JPZenger Dec 2012 #66
Are you suggesting that reloading did not happen? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #70
one source said the rifle wasn't used and was in the trunk of his car NoMoreWarNow Dec 2012 #73
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