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pnwmom

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6. He's the one with the plan and he's the one with the bullet proof vest.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 04:31 PM
Dec 2012

No one with a concealed carry pistol would have been prepared for this monster.

Actually, he had two handguns. (And people with rifles are not bulletproof) cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #1
Didn't you "actually" read the post? He had several weapons, including a high-powered rifle. pnwmom Dec 2012 #2
With guns it's more about who is first to hit the other rather than the power of the weapon Fumesucker Dec 2012 #4
He's the one with the plan and he's the one with the bullet proof vest. pnwmom Dec 2012 #6
Depends on the individual and the situation Fumesucker Dec 2012 #13
And what is possible and even likely is that any concealed carry pistol pnwmom Dec 2012 #18
Agreed. Fearless Dec 2012 #20
That's a different point than the one I was arguing Fumesucker Dec 2012 #36
Certainly possible. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #59
Nope, I'm not going to bother because I've cited the Harvard research dozens of times here. pnwmom Dec 2012 #62
That's not how gun combat works. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #19
If rifles and "bullet proof vests (they aren't)" confered invincibility.... PavePusher Dec 2012 #41
1) That story is most likely wrong -- it repeats something said hours ago and since cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #5
No , this report is based on the most recent information. pnwmom Dec 2012 #8
No, it wasn't an "assault rifle". n/t PavePusher Dec 2012 #45
Only gun nuts care to quibble about whether a gun is an "assault rifle" or an "assault weapon." pnwmom Dec 2012 #48
Words have meanings. It helps to pick the correct ones. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #56
This is a distinction without a difference. How does it help to pick the "correct" word? pnwmom Dec 2012 #68
Here you go shadowrider Dec 2012 #72
Wasn't he wearing a kevlar vest? Larkspur Dec 2012 #3
A report said that he was wearing a military style vest. The report didn't say whether it was bluestate10 Dec 2012 #7
A ballistic vest does not confer invincibility. PavePusher Dec 2012 #46
The MSM sites disagree with that rifle description. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #9
CCW pistols result in more accidental deaths than they ever help people pnwmom Dec 2012 #11
That depends on your limited definition of "help". ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #14
No, they don't. PavePusher Dec 2012 #47
The AP is part of the MSM and the AP says it was a .223 rifle. n/t pnwmom Dec 2012 #42
Exactly. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #50
it's highpowered enough to fucking kill an entire classroom of 6 year-olds. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #55
Getting the details wrong is not the same as not discussing the details. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #58
oh you're the gun police? thanks. very important role. elehhhhna Dec 2012 #61
The article says it was. And no one but gun fans quibbles pnwmom Dec 2012 #63
The media almost never gets it right. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #64
But, but, the gun rights folks say there's no such thing as an "assault rifle"!! kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #10
Close, but you meant "assault weapon". ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #16
A rifle is a weapon, right? That means an assault rifle is an assault weapon. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #33
You need to educate yourself as you have no clue what you are talking about. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #52
So do you maintain that a rifle is not a weapon? kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #60
Reading is fundamental. ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #65
That is because they are using a very close definition nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #27
You mean they are parsing the word, sort of like the whole thing about kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #31
No, it's the 1934 law legal definition nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #35
Nicely explained. Thank you! ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #54
If it was a AR15, it was probably made in Connecticut FarCenter Dec 2012 #12
Up to 6 rounds a second if you can hit the trigger that fast. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #15
It could only shoot 6 bullets a second if the shooter is able to pull the trigger six times per.... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #17
Does six three or one times a second matter against children? Fearless Dec 2012 #21
I am SO glad you pointed that out for me! A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #23
Really? I point out that you're misguided and you snark me? Fearless Dec 2012 #25
Excuse me, but how in the bloody hell am I "misguided"? A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #32
You've missed the point entirely and I have no intention of snarking you. Fearless Dec 2012 #34
Oh, for fucks sake. A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #37
You made my point for me better than I ever could. Fearless Dec 2012 #38
And your point was? A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #43
Why shouldnt we politicize it? TimKeller Dec 2012 #22
It does need to be discussed Fearless Dec 2012 #26
Is there word yet on how the gunman died? eom ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2012 #24
No. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Dec 2012 #28
Question then...what purpose would more gun control laws serve? Roland99 Dec 2012 #29
It's not an assault rifle; it's "assault style" - assault rifles are select fire REP Dec 2012 #40
Correct -- and this is not a "machine gun" obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #49
No doubt about that. REP Dec 2012 #53
I feel the same way obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #57
rifle...style...wtfe...you didn't answer the question. Roland99 Dec 2012 #67
I did; weapons bought before the ban are legal to retain ownership of, but not legal to resell. REP Dec 2012 #69
and the shooter bought this rifle before the ban? Roland99 Dec 2012 #71
It was a Bushmaster. Are_grits_groceries Dec 2012 #30
A popular make of semi-automatic civilian rifles REP Dec 2012 #39
KNR...the NRA apologists are all over this thread...pathetic joeybee12 Dec 2012 #44
"They wants to takes the precious ... We needs it" Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #51
We need to make people reload JPZenger Dec 2012 #66
Are you suggesting that reloading did not happen? ManiacJoe Dec 2012 #70
one source said the rifle wasn't used and was in the trunk of his car NoMoreWarNow Dec 2012 #73
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