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Octafish

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44. It's pretty clear JFK was going to pull out. He signed NSAM 263, ordering complete withdrawal.
Fri Dec 14, 2012, 02:14 PM
Dec 2012

Four days after the assassination, LBJ signed NSAM 273, effectively countermanding NSAM 263. Then, a few months later, LBJ went along with the Gulf of Tonkin fiction as the pretext for sending in the Marines and later the Army and the rest of the draftees.

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I surmise that you are between the ages of 50 and 60 years. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #1
42. Male. Californian. Taverner Dec 2012 #4
that was what i was telling folks in 08 oldhippydude Dec 2012 #27
I'm a little confused here Art_from_Ark Dec 2012 #9
actually the voting age at that time was 21 oldhippydude Dec 2012 #29
But if you go back and read the post I was replying to, Art_from_Ark Dec 2012 #47
Wow. The deaths of those men dramatically changed the course of history. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #2
Especially now that we know now that JFK was opposed to Vietnam... Taverner Dec 2012 #3
That alone could have changed the course of human history. Intense. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #5
The Vietnam war would have never happened .. SummerSnow Dec 2012 #32
Your post made me cry for your uncle, your mother and for you. I do want to point out, though, coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #37
hmm.never thought about that. SummerSnow Dec 2012 #39
It's pretty clear JFK was going to pull out. He signed NSAM 263, ordering complete withdrawal. Octafish Dec 2012 #44
Yep. JFK repeatedly told Kenny O'Donnell, hifiguy Dec 2012 #46
NSAM 263, as I understand it, was conditioned upon success by the puppets coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #48
Your post made me tear up.... Taverner Dec 2012 #43
I have wondered this too ... DakotaLady Dec 2012 #16
There was a reason all three of them were deliberately killed. villager Dec 2012 #6
.... Taverner Dec 2012 #8
This. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #31
If JFK, RFK, and MLK had lived and had been able to follow through with their visions Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #7
Or it would have created a backlash that gave us Reagan in 68 Taverner Dec 2012 #11
I don't know about that Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #24
RFK wanted Single Payer, Universal Health Care Taverner Dec 2012 #45
My dad did a TOD in Vietnam under JFK LeftInTX Dec 2012 #10
weird timing The Straight Story Dec 2012 #12
I never knew. Overseas Dec 2012 #14
Nifty. Thanks. n/t Laelth Dec 2012 #28
I love that song SummerSnow Dec 2012 #33
K&R. Overseas Dec 2012 #13
I don't think we would have had Reagan or W LeftInTX Dec 2012 #15
I agree completely they would have changed history add one more name Jerry Litton from Missouri. gordianot Dec 2012 #17
Thanks for the suggestion - I will look him up Taverner Dec 2012 #21
I remember Jerry Litton Art_from_Ark Dec 2012 #23
Good question davidpdx Dec 2012 #18
Reagan was shot LeftInTX Dec 2012 #19
No. Knowing what we know now, no. Taverner Dec 2012 #20
Well the other three were killed in the 60s weren't they? davidpdx Dec 2012 #22
MLK (advocate of non-violent change and economic justice) and RFK (advocate of peace and Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #26
no datasuspect Dec 2012 #25
People might have ended up seeing them as sell outs Johonny Dec 2012 #30
You make a good point, but I'm going to play devil's advocate. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #34
If you listen to Townshend Johonny Dec 2012 #41
Excellent points. I do think, though, had MLK coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #38
I posted this a while ago regarding this very subject (at least as far as the Kennedys go) . . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #35
This wasn't done by some cabal...this was done by corporate America in plain view Taverner Dec 2012 #42
If Hitler had been admitted to art school, there might never have coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #36
Great question. I think we can get a pretty clear idea allrevvedup Dec 2012 #40
John F. Kennedy @ American University MinM Dec 2012 #49
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