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cbayer

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35. It was better for some.

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:02 PM

Dec 2012

I remember the first time I met the organist. He had not had access to an organ since they discharged him. It was the one thing that gave him peace and joy, and he was simply lost without it.

It was then that I reevaluated my position on deinstitutionalization.

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What are your thoughts about institutionalizing drug abusers and the mentally ill? [View all] Cleita Dec 2012 OP

I'm ok with that for extreme cases like what you describe, but... is it practical? Bradical79 Dec 2012 #1

I think your situation illustrates several of the problems we have in this perverse culture. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #2

I've thought about this also. kiva Dec 2012 #25

You get it. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #48

there should be a place for people like her. I think it will happen in future years Voice for Peace Dec 2012 #3

Institutionalizing sweet, harmless people becuase they 'look scary' is not an idea I Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #4

I wasn't really looking for institutionalizing as a solution as it was in the past, Cleita Dec 2012 #6

Things I'd ask you, since you are asking: Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #28

You seem to believe than anyone can take on another one's problems. Cleita Dec 2012 #41

Drug addicts were allowed to self-administer in that hot-bed of leftist thought, Jacksonville... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #43

I was involved with the deinstitutionalization of Raven Dec 2012 #5

How would that work? Cleita Dec 2012 #7

I was dealing with people already in institutions and we Raven Dec 2012 #9

In California, under Reagan, deinstitutionalization was supposed MineralMan Dec 2012 #14

Ya. easttexaslefty Dec 2012 #24

Reagan's de-institutionalization was a disaster in many ways. pinto Dec 2012 #27

And many of the State Hospitals now have a very high census of those convicted of serious crimes. Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #33

There has to be some way that we, as a society, can do it better Marrah_G Dec 2012 #40

OTOH, some of these places were great in many ways. cbayer Dec 2012 #22

At one time Napa State Hospital... Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #34

It was better for some. cbayer Dec 2012 #35

Institutionalization that incorporates the best of modern therapies Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #37

And particularly better to being shuffled in and out of jails and prisons. cbayer Dec 2012 #38

Agreed. n/t Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #39

The problem with that was that people were just warehoused, rather MineralMan Dec 2012 #8

Boy! I second that, MM! Raven Dec 2012 #10

+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #11

On paper that seems so workable. Thanks for the input.n/t Cleita Dec 2012 #12

well said mm JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #13

One other thing needs attention besides what you said, MM..people not only need the proper shraby Dec 2012 #20

Yes, medication compliance is always a tough issue. MineralMan Dec 2012 #23

Problem is, many patients refuse to take meds, and there is nothing that can be done... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #46

Well said. But it's still a tough problem even with resources. hunter Dec 2012 #30

Combine modern, effective treatment with the self-sufficient practices of some older institutions. Adsos Letter Dec 2012 #36

Yes, thank you. If my bipolar ever sends me completely off the rails I want to GreenPartyVoter Dec 2012 #49

i would like to institutionalize the creepy dealers on my block. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #15

Big Pharma? leftstreet Dec 2012 #16

nope, heroin & meth. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #18

What's missing here are sheltered and safe community living spaces, imo. cbayer Dec 2012 #17

Depends on the persons' circumstances. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #19

Mixed Feelings. . . . BigDemVoter Dec 2012 #21

I believe it was Clinton that mandated substance abuse treatment LeftInTX Dec 2012 #26

There'll be nobody left. notadmblnd Dec 2012 #29

The resources for chemical dependency treatment are slim. I volunteer for a syringe exchange program pinto Dec 2012 #31

"Wet" housing of chronic alcoholics is actually quite effective The empressof all Dec 2012 #32

That's interesting. Cleita Dec 2012 #42

"HUD housing in a broken down trailer my slumlord neighbor rents to her " KamaAina Dec 2012 #44

sigh. I don't like the idea of putting anyone in an institution-- brokechris Dec 2012 #45

I agree and I'm sorry about your sisters that's awful. Cleita Dec 2012 #47