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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
177. Assuming he is an actual active-duty soldier
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jan 2012

at all. As near as I can tell, that has not even been established.

It is my opinion, as a retired journalist, that this story is poorly researched and written. At the time of its publication, it was still unclear whether this person was alive or dead and no confirmation that he is even in the military. The Facebook post was just a launching platform for a bunch of speculation about our supposed special forces operations in Syria. There's no evidence presented of that, either. The only thing that led to all this speculation was some guy's post on Facebook, which may or may not even be a true statement by someone who may or may not actually be in the military.

Weak sauce, journalistically, all around. No editor of a responsible publication would approve such a poorly-supported article.

Who was the soldier and what was his "link"? Brickbat Jan 2012 #1
The soldier is dead and the page was scrubbed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #2
But what was the link? He was a member? Brickbat Jan 2012 #3
How he died, in action nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #4
Did you call the family? Brickbat Jan 2012 #6
Friends of his did nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #9
Post the denial, please. Robb Jan 2012 #17
No... that is info that I will not release here nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #20
Then I call "nonsense", sorry. Robb Jan 2012 #30
Yes I did... you are correct, one that took 36 hours to get back nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #34
Then you can post that email. Robb Jan 2012 #35
It is out of respect to the family I will not nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #39
Respect to the family of the information officer? Robb Jan 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #41
Good start. Now the email, please. Robb Jan 2012 #42
No, you are free to believe or not whatever you want nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #49
you messing with the alex jones woo again? i told you experimenting with that shit is bad. dionysus Jan 2012 #114
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #47
Ok there are things about this story that you will NOT get nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #50
nadinbrzezinski Why Syzygy Jan 2012 #127
Yes, at the very least Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #166
It's never appropriate to release COD or TOD Aerows Jan 2012 #96
I never asked she do any such thing. Robb Jan 2012 #100
But you, the reporter, did not? Brickbat Jan 2012 #48
Yes I did nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #56
These aren't knives; this is called editing. Brickbat Jan 2012 #78
The plot thins. Robb Jan 2012 #161
Thanks for the heads-up. Gosh, who would have thought? Brickbat Jan 2012 #189
OWS San Diego canceled the memorial saying Jay Polk's not dead tammywammy Jan 2012 #163
The only post you will get here nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #192
So, a memorial for a person who isn't dead? zappaman Jan 2012 #193
"The only post you will get here" zappaman Jan 2012 #198
you expect more? ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #201
OWS didn't cancel, but a part of OWS canceled? tammywammy Jan 2012 #194
As I said, the memorial was held nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #195
Who did you confirm the death with? tammywammy Jan 2012 #196
Once again, the memorial was held nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #197
It's important to recognize the trees tammywammy Jan 2012 #199
a grain of salt is an understatement ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #200
Don't take my word nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #202
Who did you confirm the death with? n/t tammywammy Jan 2012 #203
"Nor do I believ you have read the links to actual articles in elite..." zappaman Jan 2012 #204
Is he really dead? If not he should be court martialled. This man has put into harms way other southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #10
Oh fully agreed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #11
Are you related to Mika on Morning Joe? southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #117
no nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #124
Just wondering. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #125
name is the smith of poland nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #126
Really? I wouldn't of guessed that. How did you come up with that name? southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #128
My dad was in the Hitler travel plan nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #133
Wow, I bet you have many interesting stories. My mother was from Italy and the day they southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #141
My dad told me some of the non fit for family consumption nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #142
War is sure hell. My father was wounded in WWII with machine gun fired at him up the leg. Til southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #143
I would like to clarify, MOST of our troops, nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #144
I totally agree with you. It is funny that people who never been in a war and so happy to send southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #145
Ah that Smedley Butler!!!! nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #146
You betcha. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #148
The enemy will already know they are there. MattBaggins Jan 2012 #115
Americans don't have a right if our soldiers are in harms way. However, if this country wants southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #116
We always have the right MattBaggins Jan 2012 #121
If my husband was in that situation by golly I don't want him getting killed because someone put southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #123
You know what I care about? OUR SOLDIERS. That is who I car for. He is doing what is asked of southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #157
Excuse me? I sure as hell have a right to know if my government has sent troops to Syria. Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #149
I hate to tell you but you are living in a dream land. Our troops are everywhere around the world. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #156
His wife posted on his Facebook count that he had died, but would not respond to media request for c Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #63
And anyway, his death is secondary nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #68
Sorry to hear this.... midnight Jan 2012 #179
Here is a screenshot of his post: Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #85
I have a screenshot as well that says he's going to Paris. Robb Jan 2012 #102
The deleted posts have been restored. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #130
I am suspicious that the soldier was the one who actually posted that. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #5
Read the article, he did nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #7
I guess I missed it, but how was it verified that it was him? aikoaiko Jan 2012 #14
Now you know why we went WTF? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #27
Same soldier told Occupy members in person that he was going to Syria Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #66
Good, the editor's here. Robb Jan 2012 #77
wife posted on Facebook that he died in line of duty. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #88
"What I read on Facebook" isn't a source. Robb Jan 2012 #101
There are other sources that can't be revealed due to national security and to protect sources Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #131
You're serious. National security? Robb Jan 2012 #136
I am sure if this guy opened his mouth he will be in trouble. He should be court martial, period. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #147
Mission-specific details could put soldiers' lives at risk. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #152
OK, now that's just absurd. Robb Jan 2012 #155
The PNAC/neocon crowd... CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #8
The PNAC crowd is responsible for this? tabatha Jan 2012 #15
If they know anything about their history and they keep up with news, ronnie624 Jan 2012 #138
There has to be an opposition group to start with. tabatha Jan 2012 #139
There are US forces in Jordan at the border with Syria because of the Syria action. tabatha Jan 2012 #12
If nothing else the chockful of links will catch you nicely nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #13
From what I have gathered from AJE and other Syria postings tabatha Jan 2012 #19
Yes, they are operating out of Jordan nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #25
"Soldier" versus "Special Ops" tabatha Jan 2012 #28
Yes, the command is a spec ops command nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #29
And don't forget Qatar. They are our new 'boots on the ground' when we don't want to look like sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #98
Where is the Facebook posting? Robb Jan 2012 #16
We got the screen capture, the rest was taken down... nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #21
Post the screen capture then MinervaX Jan 2012 #23
Here, a copy and paste from his FB page nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #26
Why do you care if OPSEC was violated MinervaX Jan 2012 #36
Why do you think we ran the story? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #38
But aren't backing it up. MinervaX Jan 2012 #43
Presumably this is the fellow: Robb Jan 2012 #51
Interesting guy... SidDithers Jan 2012 #67
While ironic, you should know that nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #69
Well, it's a nuanced view. Robb Jan 2012 #71
yikes maddezmom Jan 2012 #80
He went back in nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #82
so when did he get back to San Diego? maddezmom Jan 2012 #86
He was in san diego during the Christmas Standown nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #94
Spec Ops troops at Fort Sam Houstin, TX? Okay, I'll bite ... who are they? SlimJimmy Jan 2012 #137
Well short of DoD telling you, yes we are there, you won't beieve it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #53
You're worried about OPSEC pecwae Jan 2012 #108
read the article nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #110
The soldier said he was leaving for Syria. JDPriestly Jan 2012 #87
Screen capture here: Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #89
I am also interested in this information MinervaX Jan 2012 #22
It looks like the WaPo and the Nation articles have been scrubbed too. Jazzgirl Jan 2012 #18
We just went live with it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #24
Here from the Nation nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #31
Nothing strange about it. tkmorris Jan 2012 #32
I posted the copy paste already up nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #37
WAPO nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #33
thank you nt dougolat Jan 2012 #44
So he posts on Jan 2. Now he is dead? Broderick Jan 2012 #45
it hasn't been confirmed maddezmom Jan 2012 #52
We got a non denial denial about his dead from his command nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #59
It bothered us too nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #55
Still Broderick Jan 2012 #57
His death came about a week after nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #60
Stay on it if you can Broderick Jan 2012 #62
Well the soldier's death at this point is quite secondary nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #65
Both are mighty curious Broderick Jan 2012 #70
Why nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #75
If you had confirmation from his command that he died, you could've scooped everyone with it. Robb Jan 2012 #58
Robb I will spell it for you nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #61
Because you must start with facts before you begin analysis. Robb Jan 2012 #74
Raise all the questions you want nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #76
But you haven't answered *anything*. Robb Jan 2012 #79
You can believe what you want nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #83
You did all those things, yet neglected to write about them in the article? Robb Jan 2012 #84
Which tells me you have not read it nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #95
You claim upthread to have contacted the family. Then back away from that. Robb Jan 2012 #103
One I never claimed to have contacted a base commander nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #105
"I really do not give a shit what you think." Nice. Robb Jan 2012 #106
it is frustrating to answer questions and get creative interpretations nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #109
You haven't answered a thing. Over and over. Robb Jan 2012 #111
Robb, this is how she does it... ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #97
Then it's pecwae Jan 2012 #154
Kick and recommend zappaman Jan 2012 #159
If DOD hasn't released name you can't get it from funeral homes until they do. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #134
It would be naive to think we do not have Special Ops forces in Syria Hugabear Jan 2012 #46
Military leaders testimony to House Armed Services committee confirmed special ops in 20 mideast Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #73
We have advisors in almost every country of the world. Since when is this news? ieoeja Jan 2012 #54
I don't think our forces are in Syria to exchange ideas n/t Enrique Jan 2012 #81
We aren't Aerows Jan 2012 #93
Then we disagree. ieoeja Jan 2012 #99
That's OK. They're there to defend the constitution..except the part about congress declaring wars. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #64
yep Broderick Jan 2012 #72
If anyone deserved a facepalm Aerows Jan 2012 #91
What do you mean? Broderick Jan 2012 #92
The key part Aerows Jan 2012 #90
Oh, I think we're in Syria. Robb Jan 2012 #104
I don't view that as quality Aerows Jan 2012 #112
You know what I mean. Robb Jan 2012 #119
This is nothing new. Saving Hawaii Jan 2012 #107
Thank you Aerows Jan 2012 #113
War in Syria, check. sarcasmo Jan 2012 #118
Bullshit meter is off the charts... JSnuffy Jan 2012 #120
Lots of points don't make sense. Showed thread to ex-army hubby (very much NOT special forces) Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #158
Odd topic here. Marking to read later as it seems rather wtf-ish uppityperson Jan 2012 #122
As someone who had a Brother in Cambodia, when "we" were Autumn Jan 2012 #129
In this household that was our initial reaction... Art 32 followed nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #132
But no SO spook is going to endanger his own life or that of his fellow compadres by posting his eta lonestarnot Jan 2012 #135
Clearly he shouldn't have done so. Liberty Belle Jan 2012 #153
I think it's interesting tammywammy Jan 2012 #140
"I'm not dead yet." Robb Jan 2012 #160
Good to know that he's not dead! tammywammy Jan 2012 #162
K&R...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #164
Journalism is a difficult profession. MineralMan Jan 2012 #167
Buy me another beer and I'll tell you about my work with the CIA at Area 51. Robb Jan 2012 #185
Oh, hell...I'll buy you a dozen beers, just to hear MineralMan Jan 2012 #186
So, wait...is that like folks posting photos of MineralMan Jan 2012 #183
Yup folks, this smells funny. zappaman Jan 2012 #150
This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #151
The US under Obama has been very good at these covert ops Renew Deal Jan 2012 #165
Assuming he is an actual active-duty soldier MineralMan Jan 2012 #177
Apparently, there's a big problem with your story. MineralMan Jan 2012 #168
"perhaps a self-delete of your OP is in order' zappaman Jan 2012 #172
Here is more information about Jay Polk, MineralMan Jan 2012 #169
I have to say that the phrase "super duper classified" makes me laugh. n/t tammywammy Jan 2012 #171
You mean that isn't an official description of MineralMan Jan 2012 #174
Apparently on my security training tammywammy Jan 2012 #175
Well, I saw a lot of stuff that had TOP SECRET [five-letter-word] MineralMan Jan 2012 #180
Double check. It's actually "supper duper classified"... SidDithers Jan 2012 #176
Classified Food in the Mess Hall. MineralMan Jan 2012 #181
Admittedly, I ate some pecwae Jan 2012 #214
As far as I could tell, most of the food MineralMan Jan 2012 #215
I see lots of gullible people falling for total BS again. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #170
but the writer of the OP is infallible... ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #178
Golly, who knew "reporting" was so hard? zappaman Jan 2012 #182
OP fools so many with jargon. First sign of that always should peg the BS meter. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #184
indeed... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jan 2012 #190
I think it may not be the intent but.... Whisp Jan 2012 #191
Here's another discussion on Facebook regarding this: MineralMan Jan 2012 #173
Thanks, interesting reading for a boring Saturday. great white snark Jan 2012 #187
Sort of. I'm working on a website content project, MineralMan Jan 2012 #188
I eagerly await the retraction/correction. Robb Jan 2012 #205
You'll wait a long time... MineralMan Jan 2012 #206
I am almost terrifyingly patient. Robb Jan 2012 #208
please...I beg you... zappaman Jan 2012 #209
As metaphor only. Robb Jan 2012 #213
I'm glad it's staying up zappaman Jan 2012 #207
Could you please clarify as to why the OP is inaccurate? Leopolds Ghost Jan 2012 #211
Not complicated. Robb Jan 2012 #216
Thank You, nadinbrzezinski. bvar22 Jan 2012 #210
edited to say - nevermind. i just read the rest of this thread. nt arely staircase Jan 2012 #212
Looks like it may be falling apart... Marengo Feb 2012 #217
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