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democrattotheend

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55. Definitely not to make a certain amount
Wed Dec 12, 2012, 12:55 PM
Dec 2012

But I think it's immoral not to give generously to those less fortunate if you have a certain amount of wealth.

I believe that people who are financially successful should be able to live very comfortable lives, but when I hear about people who collect 50 antique cars or 10 houses or spend $250,000 on a meal, it churns my stomach thinking about all of the people in need who could have been helped with that money.

I do not resent success or think people should be punished for it, but I also think it's not much to ask that people who live in the lap of luxury pay a little more (or even significantly more) toward the common good. It's probably true that taxes over a certain amount discourage hard work and innovation, but we are so ridiculously far from that point with the current tax levels.

It's not the amount. It's how you got it DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #1
Yep. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #45
what you do with it ? DRS Dec 2012 #62
Legally, yes, but that's not what we're talking about. DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #66
Or if it's such an amount that you have to keep it offshore... dchill Dec 2012 #101
Interesting point DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #106
Or more likely, a moral hurricane. dchill Dec 2012 #110
That's another good point. DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #111
And as importantly, how you treat other people when you are rich. teddy51 Dec 2012 #2
It's not the amount, it's how you got it Throd Dec 2012 #3
It is when you gain that wealth at the cost of those around you liberal N proud Dec 2012 #4
It is inhuman to cheat people, even if it's legal, to get there (eom) NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #5
It's what you did to get it. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #6
If you're talking amassing more money than one can spend in, say, a hundred lifetimes, yes. GreenEyedLefty Dec 2012 #7
So it is ok to make people poor as long as you give some back to charity? liberal N proud Dec 2012 #8
No, and while I can see how you might get that from my post, that is not what I meant to imply. GreenEyedLefty Dec 2012 #11
Please explain liberal N proud Dec 2012 #14
I apologize for my posts last night... I was quite emotional and tired GreenEyedLefty Dec 2012 #41
Well put DRS Dec 2012 #65
What if you use it to build a plant that makes you richer but also employs hundreds of workers? dkf Dec 2012 #30
Philanthropy cannot create value? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #43
Would you rather be handed $10,000 one time or be employed? dkf Dec 2012 #91
$10,000 or a $1 per day job? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #92
$1/day? Where do you live? Ethiopia? dkf Dec 2012 #93
I live here Fumesucker Dec 2012 #94
yes but marions ghost Dec 2012 #87
It's not a simple question, if there's not a simple number next to it Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #9
Simple answer: No, not of itself Hekate Dec 2012 #10
Why isn't it? NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #12
..... Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #13
no La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2012 #15
Some examples of "immoral" ProSense Dec 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #17
You should recognize it by now RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #34
It is immoral to make any more than I do jberryhill Dec 2012 #18
Do you think it's immoral? subterranean Dec 2012 #19
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle... hunter Dec 2012 #20
Hmm...You idea on how they should be treated isn't very Jesus based. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #32
It is absolutely "Jesus based" hunter Dec 2012 #54
That's one of the stupidest canards RWNJs repeat about the left. eShirl Dec 2012 #21
Shah he's on a roll nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #25
no it's how you got the money... one_voice Dec 2012 #22
No. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #23
Question centers around what is right and wrong Trillo Dec 2012 #24
It isn't the amount, per se MrScorpio Dec 2012 #26
I will leave morality out of it...nice RW talking point by the way nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #27
So much condemning and saying I am "right" wing BrentWil Dec 2012 #33
No, elleng Dec 2012 #28
yes when that wealth causes others to not be able to have survival, undergroundpanther Dec 2012 #29
Not everyone gets rich by screwing someone else democrattotheend Dec 2012 #58
Not true guardian Dec 2012 #59
I can be very ignostic about this.... defacto7 Dec 2012 #31
Yes. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #35
It is immoral to never have enough. aandegoons Dec 2012 #36
yes. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #37
No.. sendero Dec 2012 #38
No, it's not. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #39
No, but let's not assume they're doing anything with that wealth except lining their own coffers. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #40
It is inhumane to hoard vast resources while others have nothing Marrah_G Dec 2012 #42
You know, it probably is union_maid Dec 2012 #44
Yes. GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #46
I think it's immoral to hoard money when people are starving gollygee Dec 2012 #47
Is there such a thing as morality, and if so, whose morality are you talking about Coyotl Dec 2012 #48
Depends if you made it honestly, not legally mind you, but honestly Cleita Dec 2012 #49
Is it immoral that JK Rowling sold so many damn books? mainer Dec 2012 #50
She lives in England right? Marrah_G Dec 2012 #63
On which income she gladly, PROUDLY paid her taxes. eShirl Dec 2012 #74
The question was whether it's immoral that she's rich mainer Dec 2012 #80
No Incitatus Dec 2012 #77
I know plenty of people who make their wealth in ways like Rowling mainer Dec 2012 #81
no AlexSatan Dec 2012 #51
God, and the devil, are in the details riqster Dec 2012 #52
No, it's not immoral... macwriter Dec 2012 #53
Definitely not to make a certain amount democrattotheend Dec 2012 #55
Nope JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #56
This is a good, complicated question jollyreaper2112 Dec 2012 #57
"Behind every great fortune lies a great crime" Still true today. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #60
What "great crimes" did JK Rowling commit? (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #61
I thought about answering this and the other two replies. It would be long and require Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #71
You thought about answering it, but realized that JK Rowling has a great fortune, Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #79
No, but as I said. It would require far too much time to explain for no purpose. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #85
OK. That makes perfect sense. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #89
Is the "I haven't the time to explain my wisdom to fools like you" attitude a crime? Silent3 Dec 2012 #95
OK here's the shortest version. Participation in a crime is a crime. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #96
Some people get it, some people don't. PETRUS Dec 2012 #97
Well put. Most didn't get it when Balzac said it over a century ago and most Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #99
Balzac made money from his writing. Silent3 Dec 2012 #107
And was born into a wealthy family. Might have aided in his perception, don't you think? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #108
Since Balzac didn't generate a "great fortune" for himself then somehow his for-profit publishers... Silent3 Dec 2012 #112
Book publishing is criminal? Movie making is criminal? Silent3 Dec 2012 #98
hmmmmmm... BrentWil Dec 2012 #68
No ... What crime did the founder of COSTCO commit? nt Raine Dec 2012 #70
Egalitarian Thug's time is apparently very valuable, Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #90
Yes. oldhippie Dec 2012 #64
What side of "make a certain amount" or "have a certain amount" scale of immorality are you on? haele Dec 2012 #67
+1000 nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #100
No but it's immoral to have your boot on the neck of people Raine Dec 2012 #69
No, but having great wealth and doing nothing to benefit the less fortunate is contemptible. nt Incitatus Dec 2012 #72
My what an incredibly subjective question you asked there. Rex Dec 2012 #73
The drive to accumulate more than we could ever use, ronnie624 Dec 2012 #75
you damn well know the answer to that Skittles Dec 2012 #76
Not at all. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #78
In and of itself? Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #82
Yes it is immoral cpwm17 Dec 2012 #83
It depends on how one accumulated that wealth. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #84
no, Mitt Enrique Dec 2012 #86
Look at how the money was made... marions ghost Dec 2012 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #102
NO, not at all. lalalu Dec 2012 #103
No. MoonchildCA Dec 2012 #104
The capitalist system is immoral limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #105
Yes. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #109
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