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FightForMichigan

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165. Were you there yesterday?

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:38 AM

Dec 2012

I was.

Did you see what they've done to democracy in our state? Did you talk to the provocateurs AFP peppered the crowd with? Were you face to face with the lines of police in riot gear and on horseback trying to intimidate people who only wanted to be heard?

You make people desperate, they do desperate things. Why is this so hard to understand?

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Fox News Contributor Repeatedly Punched By Michigan Pro-Union Protestors Tearing Down AFP Tent [View all] alp227 Dec 2012 OP

Good. nt Union Scribe Dec 2012 #1

Why? Did Crowder threaten anyone? alp227 Dec 2012 #10

Oh fuck that. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #22

+1 exactly limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #72

Oh I grinned - but dumb move AldoLeopold Dec 2012 #77

you're right backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #146

nice JohLast Dec 2012 #180

That is the exact argument teabaggers gave.... NCTraveler Dec 2012 #155

Yes they do! I hope it hurts like hell! santamargarita Dec 2012 #183

Why would he prevent protesters doing something. Is he reporting or is he still_one Dec 2012 #23

Inciting the crowd, of course lbrtbell Dec 2012 #79

hard to tell with all the editing that was done.. frylock Dec 2012 #104

Yup. at :39. He's CLEARLY getting up. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #154

This does not advance our passive progressive Democratic Party agenda BanTheGOP Dec 2012 #2

He deserved to be punched just over questions? What? alp227 Dec 2012 #8

YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE VIDEO? Melinda Dec 2012 #15

OK I didn't read enough into the article... alp227 Dec 2012 #17

I didnt' say that at ALL BanTheGOP Dec 2012 #30

The video is cut until the fight. Who knows what he did to get the man so angry. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #44

Does it matter? Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #58

well then it does matter, doesn't it? frylock Dec 2012 #105

What do you think the Fox asswipe might have done to provoke the union guy? Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #122

That video is heavily EDITED and does NOT show the provocation by AFP and Crowder Melinda Dec 2012 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 Dec 2012 #9

No, you did. You outright state that Union Members are criminal. Here is your direct quote: Melinda Dec 2012 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 Dec 2012 #14

yes Mediate did "challenge the video" Enrique Dec 2012 #66

yep, why the edit? Enrique Dec 2012 #51

why does the union guy enter the frame from the bottom? frylock Dec 2012 #106

I guess the revolution won't be televised. upaloopa Dec 2012 #4

+1 woo me with science Dec 2012 #21

FOX news "contributor"? grasswire Dec 2012 #5

Not a host, but not an unpaid guest either stevenleser Dec 2012 #62

A contributor is a non-host who appears on a cable news show Jamaal510 Dec 2012 #148

I'll tell you, I'm really having trouble having any sympathy for him. notadmblnd Dec 2012 #6

I hope it hurt Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #7

This. Arkana Dec 2012 #20

... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #11

Several points nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #13

Bullshit zappaman Dec 2012 #52

Anyone working with FOX is not a real reporter Hugabear Dec 2012 #84

Most likely. n/t zappaman Dec 2012 #86

He was looking to provoke, mock, and get a passive response. Marr Dec 2012 #131

"Story".. sendero Dec 2012 #87

You don't think today's actions were a "story"? zappaman Dec 2012 #88

Only if you think.. sendero Dec 2012 #90

If that girl hadn't gone into the bar... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #102

Not remotely... sendero Dec 2012 #152

That's an excellent point Lefty48197 Dec 2012 #137

Where was the real reporter in the video? Looked more like an agent provocateur, which sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #145

I'd lay odds that the asshole provoked it... 99Forever Dec 2012 #16

He did provoke it brettdale Dec 2012 #151

The notion of agent provocateur crosses my mind, but Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #18

I think if the union caused the fight, the video would've shown that. lob1 Dec 2012 #40

Who says the "protestor" wasn't actually a provocateur himself? backscatter712 Dec 2012 #92

Ya fly your anti-labor colors at a pro-labor rally... leftstreet Dec 2012 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #162

If you're going to a fox hunt, WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #24

LOL n/t Lefty48197 Dec 2012 #138

If you're a woman out by herself in public, don't wear a short skirt (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #160

If you're orange football the number twelve skyscraper shoe, don't albicore that jetski in darkness WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #161

You caught me late in the day. Brickbat Dec 2012 #25

+++ Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #34

... OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #61

No sympathy Scootaloo Dec 2012 #26

He baited the lion and got bit. Whovian Dec 2012 #27

It was because Crowder is a racist AngryAmish Dec 2012 #28

So, are pepper spray assaults now the default response woo me with science Dec 2012 #29

This is what happens when people have had enough, and GoebbelsCo sends one of their toadies out. WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #31

Violence is never the answer former-republican Dec 2012 #32

+1 sakabatou Dec 2012 #50

Fuck that, Moses2SandyKoufax Dec 2012 #60

Sam Gompers, when president of the AFL, was wrong to unilaterally give up the threat of violence byeya Dec 2012 #63

True. Moses2SandyKoufax Dec 2012 #70

Yes, I like that "no middle ground" phrase; it's exactly right. These thugs are employed to be thugs byeya Dec 2012 #80

Exactly, Moses2SandyKoufax Dec 2012 #89

I'm not a stranger to violence but now I would rather fight with a ballet box and a court of law former-republican Dec 2012 #73

Play with fire get burned. Moses2SandyKoufax Dec 2012 #75

FINALLY, someone that sees the big picture as clear as day! Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #147

Wow I can't believe how much cluelessness over a simple moral issue is going on here. alp227 Dec 2012 #94

Basic morality-you actively seek to destroy someone's ability to earn a living, pilfer their TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #111

It's pathetic, really. Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #123

There's a LOT more too this story Lefty48197 Dec 2012 #139

Taking food off your family's table isn't "violence"... hay rick Dec 2012 #158

So let me get this straight AlexSatan Dec 2012 #169

+1 jberryhill Dec 2012 #68

+1 nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #78

Well, someone's deeply, deeply concerned... n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #96

This is a comforting fiction. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #97

+1: Sometimes, violence is necessary. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #108

Economic war on people is no less violent. Bonobo Dec 2012 #144

As much as I don't like it, violence is sometimes the answer deutsey Dec 2012 #159

What were the AFP people and Crowder there for anyway? surrealAmerican Dec 2012 #33

AFP: Scab-herding fucks leftstreet Dec 2012 #37

A racist Faux news instigator goes into a crowd of .... oldhippie Dec 2012 #35

Perfect post. trumad Dec 2012 #39

+1, and did you see his "injuries"? Union Scribe Dec 2012 #41

Hmm, backwards B anyone? alp227 Dec 2012 #95

It's Fox News. They're full of shit. liberalmuse Dec 2012 #36

If anyone knows anything about the history of unions, protesting and the Javaman Dec 2012 #38

I don't see how this can be construed as anything but a victory for Fox and the right RZM Dec 2012 #42

So they're playing chess and people cheering this are playing right into their hands? Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #49

Oh who gives a fuck what the FOX-watchers think. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #114

People do RZM Dec 2012 #118

Don't fuck with the union Gman Dec 2012 #43

this isn't a game warrprayer Dec 2012 #45

If I was the union local president Gman Dec 2012 #83

This. Bobbie Jo Dec 2012 #170

This IS old school Gman Dec 2012 #184

That's what I meant. Bobbie Jo Dec 2012 #185

he's lucky to have not had his face caved in.. frylock Dec 2012 #46

They keep pushing and pushing........ socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #47

If you go looking for a fight Aerows Dec 2012 #48

I just wish.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #53

The Young Turks are covering this right now on Current TV. lob1 Dec 2012 #54

watch this Crowder video before you judge the puncher Enrique Dec 2012 #55

this explains everyrthing warrprayer Dec 2012 #57

Well there goes 60 seconds I'll never get back. 99Forever Dec 2012 #67

Why does this piece of shit have any teeth left? n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #93

Because "violence is never the answer" dude. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #99

That's 10 seconds lost Coyotl Dec 2012 #110

I didn't see anything in here to justify getting punched. hughee99 Dec 2012 #116

FAKES "News" cut that part out of the video. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #132

There seems to be a number of people here who think that hughee99 Dec 2012 #140

I stopped listening to that video when he pulled out the Glenn Beck book. They should have kicked Erose999 Dec 2012 #176

I got 42 seconds in to this. EnviroBat Dec 2012 #178

Must have been Geraldo Rivera's understudy. Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2012 #56

We should not become like those we despise. Sorry this happened...but sh__ happens. nt kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #59

welcome!!! warrprayer Dec 2012 #69

(VIDEO) A different angle on the tent coming down Cal Carpenter Dec 2012 #64

Looks like he got punched by one single individual arcane1 Dec 2012 #65

I noticed that too. Must be inflation. Prometheus Bound Dec 2012 #103

Republicans are professional trolls... frostfern Dec 2012 #71

Looks like he got exactly what he was asking for Hugabear Dec 2012 #74

How about every fox news contributor gets punched RetroLounge Dec 2012 #76

+1 Hugabear Dec 2012 #85

Fuck with the bull, you get the horn. lpbk2713 Dec 2012 #81

What's really violence? Downtown Hound Dec 2012 #82

Damn it's a shame when 55 year old men kick your ass underpants Dec 2012 #91

tent was from Koch bros amborin Dec 2012 #98

no problem, democrats are perfectly in their right to punch people crazyjoe Dec 2012 #100

The Labor Movement: A Violent Period in American History liberal N proud Dec 2012 #101

+1 HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #112

I don't want violence. But the corporatists Ilsa Dec 2012 #107

We would have never had the Wagner Act without Blair Mountain. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #109

Did Crowder throw the first punch? backscatter712 Dec 2012 #113

He didn't throw the first punch, but his comments were enough to incite the violence pediatricmedic Dec 2012 #149

The video doesn't show the first punch. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #172

As long as violence is directed at people I don't like, hughee99 Dec 2012 #115

He should have known better, going to a frat party dressed like that RZM Dec 2012 #117

Touche! hughee99 Dec 2012 #121

Well done. Common Sense Party Dec 2012 #124

Yes, well done War Horse Dec 2012 #181

Sometimes violence is the only way B Calm Dec 2012 #119

+10001 Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #142

Give 'em the gawd damned bidness! lonestarnot Dec 2012 #120

The headline SHOULD read... GaYellowDawg Dec 2012 #125

Good. And I'm a pacifist. roody Dec 2012 #126

This is NOT okay. You act like savages and people will start to treat you like savages. nt cecilfirefox Dec 2012 #127

What is a savage? roody Dec 2012 #128

Are you kidding? They already do treat the people like savages, and they do it Marr Dec 2012 #133

Explain that to Crowder. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #135

These union members are fighting for their lives, and you call them savages? Hugabear Dec 2012 #141

We need a lot more of that. Sorry. Marr Dec 2012 #129

If there is a trial, AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #130

looks like the scab loving fox lies got what he was asking for. Sunlei Dec 2012 #134

Good PD Turk Dec 2012 #136

Now Crowder is issuing a challenge to the old gent in an MMA fight Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #143

Steven Crowder was very very aggressive before the punch brettdale Dec 2012 #150

Who is screaming "he's got a gun" and that they would "kill a mother fucker"? PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #153

Right after the punch up, when the nazi was going back to the tent, Mc Mike Dec 2012 #168

Sounds like a provocateur to me. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #175

It's almost as bad ... bongbong Dec 2012 #156

First off nobody knows who any of these people are except for Crowder. Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #157

I hope it hurt FightForMichigan Dec 2012 #163

"Don't fuck with the union?" "Good"? "I hope it hurt"? This thread is not DU's finest hour. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #164

Were you there yesterday? FightForMichigan Dec 2012 #165

"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral" Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #166

Nonviolence is nice FightForMichigan Dec 2012 #167

This. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #171

So the right-wingers will turn to our side if we just gave them a hug? backscatter712 Dec 2012 #173

No, I guess you're right. We need to kick serious ass like MLK and Gandhi (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #174

In the words of Billy Jack...... Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #177

Crowder fancies himself quite the "MMA Fighter" tough guy. EnviroBat Dec 2012 #179

An agent provocateur puts up a bait, War Horse Dec 2012 #182