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DanTex

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52. Yes, rivers of blood. And yes, it is a crisis.

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 11:05 PM

Dec 2012

Rates of homicide and gun violence in the US are far higher than any other wealthy nation. UK, Canada, Germany, France, Australia, etc. take your pick. All of them have sensible gun laws, compared to the US.

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Ten (update: sixty) shots fired Clackamas Town Center Mall Portland [View all] grasswire Dec 2012 OP

three people hit grasswire Dec 2012 #1

10-15 shots grasswire Dec 2012 #3

the shooter has been "neutralized" trueblue2007 Dec 2012 #28

oh geez Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #2

Just found out my son's SO works at Clackamas mall. He's quite worried. Lionessa Dec 2012 #36

Thank goodness, she's fine and in lockdown at the restaurant she works at. Lionessa Dec 2012 #40

Link: Very little news as of 6:57 EST... geckosfeet Dec 2012 #4

Canzano happens to work for The Oregonian grasswire Dec 2012 #6

shooter not yet apprehended grasswire Dec 2012 #5

confirmed -- shooter is in the Macy's store nt grasswire Dec 2012 #8

Ahh - doing some higher end shopping for the holidays no doubt. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #10

Your post is completely inappropriate given that people have been shot dballance Dec 2012 #30

Black humor is the only way to stay sane lbrtbell Dec 2012 #32

I don't give a crap about the emoticons dballance Dec 2012 #35

Sorry for the offense. I agree - there was some degree of "inapproriateness" in my comment. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #50

FFS malaise Dec 2012 #43

Lighten Up over people being shot and killed? dballance Dec 2012 #60

You all know what this thread will end up being. upaloopa Dec 2012 #7

? nt grasswire Dec 2012 #9

reporter on scene says possible 2 dead. grasswire Dec 2012 #11

update -- 60 shots fired, 2 confirmed dead grasswire Dec 2012 #12

swat venicles have arrived grasswire Dec 2012 #13

add'l ambulances called for -- more victims grasswire Dec 2012 #15

Please remember not to raise anything about gun crimes malaise Dec 2012 #16

just checked CNN riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #14

local news is all over it Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #17

On CNN now malaise Dec 2012 #18

Of course CNN isn't covering it MurrayDelph Dec 2012 #20

They are - news conference on malaise Dec 2012 #24

It means he no longer poses a threat. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #37

my 'local' news just reported two dead SIXTY rounds fired.... spanone Dec 2012 #19

Sure is lucky that the gunman seems to be a really lousy shot. Not so lucky for the two dead, tho. Nay Dec 2012 #45

Suspect on the loose after shots fired at Clackamas Town Center Coyotl Dec 2012 #21

Give thanks that it jammed malaise Dec 2012 #23

A "responsible gun owner" - until he wasn't baldguy Dec 2012 #22

+1. n/t. apocalypsehow Dec 2012 #26

+1000 nt abelenkpe Dec 2012 #33

A bit presumptuous, don't you think? justanidea Dec 2012 #34

No. I don't think it is. baldguy Dec 2012 #39

please elehhhhna Dec 2012 #41

No more presumtuous than the 'stand your ground' crowd aguing... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #56

sheriff PIO: shooter has been "neutralized" grasswire Dec 2012 #25

Another good reason to shop online. undeterred Dec 2012 #27

And you get to help put local stores out of business! Double benefit for you! Logical Dec 2012 #29

Not true always The Straight Story Dec 2012 #31

Live coverage on M$NBComcast n/t malaise Dec 2012 #38

Yes - my sister, nephew and his son came close KT2000 Dec 2012 #42

so horrible! one_voice Dec 2012 #44

I don't think I can take this anymore. liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #46

Amen to that, I'm sick of the propaganda too. Initech Dec 2012 #47

"rivers of blood" Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #49

your question - "Is this really a crisis?" easy answer: YES, it is flying_wahini Dec 2012 #51

Perhaps so. Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #59

Yes, rivers of blood. And yes, it is a crisis. DanTex Dec 2012 #52

+1 ellisonz Dec 2012 #57

Suspect, 2 others dead after Clackamas Town Center shooting FarCenter Dec 2012 #48

the shooter is dead grasswire Dec 2012 #53

Probably cleared the jam and put a new mag in. justanidea Dec 2012 #58

Put enough lead through a barrel nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #61

I wish the news helicopters would go away. neverforget Dec 2012 #54

I'm sick to death of VIOLENT GUN OWNERS. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #55