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this is crazy.... mike_c Dec 2012 #1
Well, when you sell everything needed for shake-and-bake meth... DollarBillHines Dec 2012 #4
Oh, they do not obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #74
Why shouldn't they be armed? gradient Dec 2012 #79
Uh, the story starkly illustrates why. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #88
If they are armed ToxMarz Dec 2012 #136
Because they aren't cops and shooting shoplifters is wrong lunatica Dec 2012 #146
Because WalMart hires guards that are too fucking stupid to have guns? Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2012 #149
He was an off-duty regular cop; still no reason to shoot a shoplifter REP Dec 2012 #92
I read the article.... mike_c Dec 2012 #93
That's against Walmart policy in so many ways lbrtbell Dec 2012 #103
Because "stuff" is more valuable than human life Scootaloo Dec 2012 #128
True. One of the security guards in a store that I worked at years ago Cleita Dec 2012 #96
Yes, exactly union_maid Dec 2012 #102
Many LEOs are required to be armed even when off duty hack89 Dec 2012 #154
Apparently she (the driver) tried to run him over. bunnies Dec 2012 #2
Sometimes it's best to look at the article sakabatou Dec 2012 #3
I did. Thank you. bunnies Dec 2012 #5
...said the sheriff's office. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #9
yep. I wont argue that point. nt bunnies Dec 2012 #12
And of course, the sheriff's office would NEVER lie lbrtbell Dec 2012 #105
and of course a shoplifter would never backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #126
Are you truly defending the security guard? Wind Dancer Dec 2012 #152
From the description you posted she may have knocked him away from the car Whovian Dec 2012 #10
Correction. He decided to shoot. bunnies Dec 2012 #11
i think we can know with as much certainty as whether she intended to run him over. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #16
I dont accept any of this as "fact". bunnies Dec 2012 #19
Right.... He just wanted to wound her in the arm so she could only drive with one hand. Whovian Dec 2012 #21
I cant speak to his mindset or intention. bunnies Dec 2012 #22
If you pull a gun and shoot at a person, every training class will tell you that it is to kill said Whovian Dec 2012 #24
Having never taken a "training class", I wouldnt know that to be true or false. bunnies Dec 2012 #27
I understand. Any killing by a cop or a gun Whovian Dec 2012 #37
what?! bunnies Dec 2012 #44
No I don't. I can only infer by the informatation you have given in Whovian Dec 2012 #64
And the woman, seeing a gun-wielding individual chasing after her, sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #49
He was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy in uniform who first confronted them outside the door. FarCenter Dec 2012 #50
I've never had a cop pull a gun on me, but if one did, I would panic. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #108
He wasnt "some lunatic" "running around a Walmart Parking lot with a loaded gun" bunnies Dec 2012 #56
Reasonable options for said officer... 2naSalit Dec 2012 #66
"...oh yeah, she was not white."...... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #85
Well it is Houston after all. 2naSalit Dec 2012 #122
she tried to run him over backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #129
She wasn't driving the car 2naSalit Dec 2012 #133
she wouldn't be dead if she was white?you're shitting me backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #141
THink what you will 2naSalit Dec 2012 #145
His actions suggest he was a bit off balance. Chemisse Dec 2012 #139
A cop in uniform with a gun is a terrifying sight to sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #165
do you have ANY evidence he was chasing her backwoodsbob Dec 2012 #143
Why would he fear his life was in danger as she was driving AWAY Bandit Dec 2012 #62
agreed defacto7 Dec 2012 #127
It is true obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #77
The training materials I have seen say... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #53
I think it's pretty safe to infer intent to kill from the use of deadly force. Bake Dec 2012 #60
You do not shoot to wound obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #76
That's the real point. defacto7 Dec 2012 #131
If you've decided to shoot you've decided to kill, full stop. Occulus Dec 2012 #117
As people have been told over and over in the Gungeon Confusious Dec 2012 #132
How very courteous of her ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #57
If there was a serial killer who murdered and pissed on joggers in Runyon Canyon... Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2012 #14
and if there were... bunnies Dec 2012 #23
ROFL Marrah_G Dec 2012 #52
LOL ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2012 #55
that's his story.... mike_c Dec 2012 #8
You seem very certain of what actions the officer could have taken to avoid being run over. bunnies Dec 2012 #15
If he could shoot, he could move his body. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #89
Shooting a passenger seems like an ineffective way of stopping the car. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2012 #119
No doubt! xocet Dec 2012 #135
does walmart have video surveilence in their parking lots...? Mel Content Dec 2012 #58
excellent point.... mike_c Dec 2012 #70
I would get out of the way - not stand and aim at the driver. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #28
How do you know that he was standing and aiming at the driver? bunnies Dec 2012 #32
Well - if a car as trying to run me over, ah'd figger the driver was the one aiming at me. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #68
Not SOP for stoppomg a shoplifter obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #75
She (the driver) billh58 Dec 2012 #78
Apparently, you think one can drive while dead. jeff47 Dec 2012 #115
Impossible AlexSatan Dec 2012 #116
wtf was he doing there though? Jamastiene Dec 2012 #138
Correct me if I'm wrong, but.... white_wolf Dec 2012 #6
There's an exception in Texas. The property has to be tangible and movable, slackmaster Dec 2012 #18
He shot in self defense while being threatened with bodily injury. Not for the scumbag thievery. n/t gradient Dec 2012 #84
because he created the situation that threatened his safety... mike_c Dec 2012 #95
Sure. We are an example to the world that violence is the solution for all of our problems. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #109
If it was self-defense, he would have shot the driver. jeff47 Dec 2012 #114
Bullshit! Wind Dancer Dec 2012 #155
So we are worse than Saudi Arabia. Cali_Democrat Dec 2012 #7
there is more to the story, she wasn't the one driving, she was with 2 friends JI7 Dec 2012 #13
Of course he says that. How else to justify opening fire. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #29
yeah, if he claims to have been as close as he was to the car JI7 Dec 2012 #36
This happens all the time: Driver attempts to flee, cops open fire. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #17
I think most are just trying to get away former-republican Dec 2012 #40
This puzzles me as well. Drivers fleeing cops seems to be Standard Operating Procedure... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #43
Unfortunately for this version of the story, the cop didn't shoot the driver. jeff47 Dec 2012 #111
How did they get the two kids into the car and buckled into their child seats before this happened? FarCenter Dec 2012 #20
Do you really think ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #26
especially people who take thier children WITH them to steal. nt bunnies Dec 2012 #30
Perhaps they left the kids in the car while they were in the store mythology Dec 2012 #45
I wonder why security guards ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #25
This wasn't just a Walmart or guard service employee -- he was a uniformed law enforcement officer FarCenter Dec 2012 #41
There's really no such thing as a off duty sworn law enforcement officer former-republican Dec 2012 #42
Umm. He's a cop. It's his job to apprehend criminals gradient Dec 2012 #81
It appears that the Gungeon is missing billh58 Dec 2012 #98
"Deadly Frorce" has some specific rules joc46224 Dec 2012 #158
People shouldn't be shot for shoplifting. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #31
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #82
Why does a security guard at WalMart have a gun? adigal Dec 2012 #33
According to the article, if the guard happens to be an off-duty cop jeff47 Dec 2012 #120
The new billh58 Dec 2012 #34
Got any data/links to outright murder is "all too easy to get away with?" Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #46
Which is why gun deaths are at historic lows ... oh wait. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #156
Some police are there to make the world a better place, some are there to enjoy control over others. Democratopia Dec 2012 #35
We need to kill people over stolen material goods Rex Dec 2012 #38
Damn right. Good post. gradient Dec 2012 #83
Troll swings Rex Dec 2012 #124
And you'll all keep shopping there. Pathetic. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #39
Who is "you'll?" I know a lot of poor people have to shop there. nt Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #48
No one forces people to shop at Walmart. No one forces people MichiganVote Dec 2012 #51
Well, your "truth might hurt" a mass of people who probably don't need anymore hurt... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #61
Dignity is costly true. But I don't buy the arguments-sorry MichiganVote Dec 2012 #65
Boycotts are blunt force instruments, and boycotts may be the only... Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #144
The "truth hurts" the most when when you start to understand that.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #69
If you can accept that, then you can accept most anything. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #73
Whatever. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #104
I'm going to guess that you don't live in a rural area. WalMart is usually the only choice. libdem4life Dec 2012 #106
I do live in a rural area and I choose not to shop at a merciless shithole like W MichiganVote Dec 2012 #107
And, Walmart does not always have the best prices. IMO it's a mindset that RKP5637 Dec 2012 #151
Are you offering rides to other stores? jeff47 Dec 2012 #112
I am standing up for the millions who are exploited by Walmart. Inclu. you it seems. MichiganVote Dec 2012 #164
No, you're living in a very small world and refusing to consider the world is bigger jeff47 Dec 2012 #166
What a load of self righteous bullshit... SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #168
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #47
The only problem with billh58 Dec 2012 #59
Well, the action that the guard took may have saved his life. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #63
not trying to open the door of a moving car and stand in it might have helped, too.... mike_c Dec 2012 #71
Apparently Walmart did not drill it into this guys head that it's cheaper to let it go. Pacafishmate Dec 2012 #80
No, shooting the driver may have saved his life. He shot a passenger. jeff47 Dec 2012 #113
Unless there is a video, no one here knows what really happened Marrah_G Dec 2012 #54
agreed. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #67
Considering the dead woman wasn't the driver jeff47 Dec 2012 #121
It was an off0duty cop, not a security giard obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #72
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #86
Oh wow... whatchamacallit Dec 2012 #87
before you get deep sixed... mike_c Dec 2012 #90
You're the scum. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #91
He was a cop working as a security guard while off-duty. jeff47 Dec 2012 #118
Isn't this the Second Time in the Last Month an Alleged dballance Dec 2012 #94
But, but, he had billh58 Dec 2012 #97
Sadly I find it best for us all he offed himself dballance Dec 2012 #162
I believe that you're referring billh58 Dec 2012 #163
Well, Walmart is the #1 seller of guns in the USA. Old and In the Way Dec 2012 #161
100% the fault of republican-party backer Walmart and its repressionist policies and gun violence BanTheGOP Dec 2012 #99
Now, now, you're going billh58 Dec 2012 #100
That area around Greens Road, Greenspoint Mall, known as "Gunspoint" already, and that Wal-Mart txwhitedove Dec 2012 #101
10411 North Freeway Houston, TX 77037‎ FarCenter Dec 2012 #110
But she shouldn't have been at the Walmart at all TexasBushwhacker Dec 2012 #123
Could you point out where that order calls for her execution if she does go in a Wal-Mart? (nt) jeff47 Dec 2012 #125
Wow. Look at all the DU'ers rallying in support of this Scootaloo Dec 2012 #130
I think it's horrifying this idiot took the life of a person over merchandise flamingdem Dec 2012 #134
You're right. It's disgusting lunatica Dec 2012 #147
I used to work at the local Wal Mart here. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #137
Local magistrates and police are overwhelmed by Walmart shoplifting cases. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #140
Why is that Walmart's fault joeglow3 Dec 2012 #157
Have someone steal less than a dollar from you. Jamastiene Dec 2012 #167
Exactly. PA Democrat Dec 2012 #172
Local cops are spending thousands of hours every year PA Democrat Dec 2012 #171
Did I miss the part where she was tried and convicted of shoplifting? Horse with no Name Dec 2012 #142
So the price of a stolen TV is now death? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2012 #148
This message was self-deleted by its author DRS Dec 2012 #150
$$$$$ first, profit first, deaths ... just collateral damage. People last. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #153
The off duty cop. deathrind Dec 2012 #159
Fucking crazy gun nut. No different than morningfog Dec 2012 #160
DU is getting better. Not a single post excoriating the woman for shopping at Walmart. Robb Dec 2012 #169
Perhaps you missed this one: SomethingFishy Dec 2012 #170
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