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Response to Bicoastal (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 01:44 AM

8. The stats don't justify the hair-on-fire gun control attitude.

According to the BJS violent crime has been dropping for nearly 40 years even as the number of guns in private hands increases every single day. There are 300 million guns in the hands of between 1/3 and 1/2 of the population yet, by your own numbers 30k "gun deaths" (not to mention the silliness of the dwelling on "gun deaths" and "gun violence" to the exclusion of violent crime in general). Of coarse there is the pesky issue of the 30K number that over 1/2 are suicides bringing the number to something less than 15k. Then there are the justifiable shootings around 4k annually. Criminal on criminal shootings account for over 1/2 of the remaining 11k leaving around 5500. Of the 5500 around 1/3 are domestic violence, 1/3 is criminal on innocent, and the rest are accidents and other causes.

Asking the question, "Approximately how many deaths by gun per day is acceptable in a free society?", and the rest of the typical diatribe, is to pretend that the complete (though impossible) vaporization of all guns would have any real effect on the net number of deaths.

Gun control is dead. It is counter to liberal and progressive ideals. Liberals are supposed to advocate for liberal interpretation of civil rights and liberties.

Take your thread over to the gungeon after it is locked here..I'm sure there will be some opinions over there..

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