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ananda

(28,782 posts)
30. Sorry, but there is no real future there...
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:02 AM
Dec 2012

... for humanity and many other large life forms.

Our only sustainable future lies in our holistic cooperation not in continued class wars and divisiveness.

I'm a socialist.... mike_c Dec 2012 #1
corporate America has spent the past few decades making sure they make more liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #12
Profits are fine BrentWil Dec 2012 #62
You can find the "ultimate expression" in many places BrentWil Dec 2012 #58
the "business community" will save tons of $ if we go to universal health care... msongs Dec 2012 #2
some would, but they'll save just as much if they, like walmart, pay their employees welfare wages HiPointDem Dec 2012 #17
I have always thought the government is the way to solve this in a modern economy BrentWil Dec 2012 #122
The only reason we did expand coverage BrentWil Dec 2012 #63
There's no problem with the business community Scootaloo Dec 2012 #3
There is a told for a strong government BrentWil Dec 2012 #124
+++1 patrice Dec 2012 #128
Well, then, ket the business community needs to think more about what allows them to kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #4
A strong government is needed for the long term success of business. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #125
It has to regulate business to keep it from destroying itself, devouring true productivity and... freshwest Dec 2012 #200
I agree... BrentWil Dec 2012 #202
DLC is center right. OWS is center left. jeff47 Dec 2012 #5
I get the feeling that "far left" in today's jargon Art_from_Ark Dec 2012 #21
That actually isn't to far from the truth BrentWil Dec 2012 #141
The political spectrum is different in different countries. BrentWil Dec 2012 #64
No, you haven't jeff47 Dec 2012 #76
They do exist. They just aren't important. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #78
The media says so. But the media's wrong. jeff47 Dec 2012 #92
No the public does favor that BrentWil Dec 2012 #142
It's not just one data point........ socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #147
Do I have to link the definition of "example" for you? jeff47 Dec 2012 #165
Mickey Edwards, former GOP congressman from OK, Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #107
The President is center right in the 1960s BrentWil Dec 2012 #143
More so than FDR, but less than JFK, Carter, Clinton & Obama. Eleanors38 Dec 2012 #179
+1 LWolf Dec 2012 #212
Threads like this make me miss unrec. white_wolf Dec 2012 #6
+1000 nt Mnemosyne Dec 2012 #13
"The DLC can go straight to hell" - music to my ears, Raksha Dec 2012 #14
Oh, and FUCK Third Way while we're at it! bullwinkle428 Dec 2012 #16
+1 leftstreet Dec 2012 #23
8) DirkGently Dec 2012 #29
I was juror number 3 hrmjustin Dec 2012 #33
Jesus Christ, but Juror #4 makes me question the universal franchise. If you're going coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #44
Here here! UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #34
+1 n/t JoeyT Dec 2012 #84
Job creators über alles jsr Dec 2012 #108
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2012 #118
+1,000 nt truebluegreen Dec 2012 #134
++1. nm nc4bo Dec 2012 #144
Same here! Wind Dancer Dec 2012 #184
+1 (nt) Duncan Grant Dec 2012 #191
No one wants the business community to fail. Just a return to ethics & morals in business. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #7
Do you believe in right-to-work? Union Scribe Dec 2012 #8
Take your cheap Third Way corporatist propaganda and stick it where the sun don't shine. Zorra Dec 2012 #9
+1 YoungDemCA Dec 2012 #10
Yep. 99Forever Dec 2012 #18
I couldn't have said it better. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #35
"We do not think that American business is our enemy." YoungDemCA Dec 2012 #11
Could you please point out this huge groundswell movement for "reforms"? bullwinkle428 Dec 2012 #15
Please don't make me roll my eyes quite so forcefully. It hurts a bit. LeftyMom Dec 2012 #19
the current economic model is not sustainable and cannot possibly sustainably provide a western Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #20
Are You Talking About The Immediate Future ??? WillyT Dec 2012 #22
OWS didn't fail because they were radical and anti-business, they failed because they were a joke Azathoth Dec 2012 #24
OWS failed? Really? What criterion\criteria are you using to assess success or coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Dec 2012 #190
I'd call giving emergency response training in NY to the same people who peppersprayed them-- eridani Dec 2012 #52
This sounds like a republican screed AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #99
Go join the fucking Republicans if you want to tongue-kiss Wall Street. Marr Dec 2012 #25
Not the future I want. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #26
Fox news says OWS is dead. Sigh...and the problems we discuss still have not been addressed. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #27
Our future is Climate Change NoOneMan Dec 2012 #28
+100000000000000000000000000000000 AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #100
Sorry, but there is no real future there... ananda Dec 2012 #30
and bs like this DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #31
Bingo.. n/t Fumesucker Dec 2012 #43
Fuck that DLC noise. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #32
That old Third Way bird doesn't fly anymore. nt woo me with science Dec 2012 #36
I'm sorry, multinationals and big corporations ARE the enemy-- BarackTheVote Dec 2012 #37
+1 freshwest Dec 2012 #201
False equivalencies, lies, and more pointless shit stirring. What a shock. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #38
Of course you know occupy is gone nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #39
Fuck the DLC and Third Way. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #40
There influence is the only reason you do win. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #160
"There"? Third Way-ers getting spelling lessons from teabaggers now? HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #171
I so hope that shit stirring will one day become a legitimate business model. Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #41
I've noticed the rhetoric is being ramped up for some reason. Rex Dec 2012 #46
Losing my nerves with the hit and run OP's... Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #48
Some will do anything to keep the status quo Rex Dec 2012 #49
Same as 2010 RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #65
Yes, thank you, exact same crowd. Rex Dec 2012 #89
unrec Joe Shlabotnik Dec 2012 #42
Classic Hit-and-Run OP. (Hat tip to WilliamPitt for coining the coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #47
I will defend it... BrentWil Dec 2012 #55
He defended himself in this thread, before he self-deleted: LAGC Dec 2012 #59
Disgusting! Wind Dancer Dec 2012 #187
Says who? Waiting For Everyman Dec 2012 #50
+1 n/t Laelth Dec 2012 #70
Bull n/t kickysnana Dec 2012 #51
Can't have a center without a far. aquart Dec 2012 #53
I think there should be a 'reverse Charlie Crist' xchrom Dec 2012 #54
You are failures RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #56
If that is the future then this country is fucked. aandegoons Dec 2012 #57
The extremist in the far right scare the business community BrentWil Dec 2012 #156
The business community should be us, the workers, and not a handful of robber barons... nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #60
Everything helped union_maid Dec 2012 #61
What do you win? tama Dec 2012 #66
"We on the Left"??? HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #67
Do I belong on the right? BrentWil Dec 2012 #68
With posts like this, I kind of wonder myself. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #69
Where do I say they self regulate? NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #72
Center right nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #93
What is normal... BrentWil Dec 2012 #94
The US is too narrow and has shifted right, way to the far right... nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #95
I will stay in the Democratic Party, thank you very much BrentWil Dec 2012 #103
And...so do moderate repubs nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #105
I doubt it BrentWil Dec 2012 #109
You are still center right nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #112
Speaking of the Rockaways... Raksha Dec 2012 #132
FEMA has been working in parallel. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #133
ARC - that stands for American Red Cross, right? Raksha Dec 2012 #145
Yes, the American Red Cross nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #146
What you call "So-called normal systems" are far fairer to their citizens and their economy. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #98
What's normal is relative to any culture... That's all I said. BrentWil Dec 2012 #101
So we all should ignore standard political science nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #106
I think you are suggesting comparative politics BrentWil Dec 2012 #116
You are still center right nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #117
Well... BrentWil Dec 2012 #119
There are moderate republicans still nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #120
It doesn't hurt BrentWil Dec 2012 #121
But that is where you are nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #123
That's silly. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #126
Of course it is silly, just a hard core political definition nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #131
hey, wait, i'm still trying to get my head around the "far left" newspeak Dec 2012 #80
Your future maybe. Leave me out of dystopia. marmar Dec 2012 #71
Some people are ProSense Dec 2012 #73
I don't even have a post in one of those threads. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #159
Are you sure? underoath Dec 2012 #205
Yeah... BrentWil Dec 2012 #214
Pinch yourself and squeal and know that this is real... countryjake Dec 2012 #74
And working people should be supported so they can join the middle class NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #158
Bookmarking for later JHB Dec 2012 #75
Okay. nT BrentWil Dec 2012 #157
Is this a joke? You have no idea what OWS is about. eilen Dec 2012 #77
They are the same in that the tea party helps us more the the GOP BrentWil Dec 2012 #79
Total BS. BarackTheVote Dec 2012 #163
We won by 3 percent because Obama ran an... BrentWil Dec 2012 #168
Nice RW talking points you got there, bro. BarackTheVote Dec 2012 #181
Romney was not crushed. Look at the numbers. randome Dec 2012 #182
Given that the M$M was cheer leading RMoney BarackTheVote Dec 2012 #196
You obviously either know nothing about OWS or are poking fun. OWS is =non-partisan= Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #170
I disagree. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #81
Sure we can BrentWil Dec 2012 #82
I wasn't just talking about carbon, or just about the developed world. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #85
Markets only function if there is more than one seller BarackTheVote Dec 2012 #164
"The business world" needs to stop usurping political power and undermining the country. eShirl Dec 2012 #83
Where is the Third Way or 'moderate' counterpart to Occupy Sandy? Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #86
Occupy Sandy is amazing BrentWil Dec 2012 #155
What you hold as good is antithetical to the DLC that I know. cprise Dec 2012 #87
History is kindest to the pragmatic that moves in the right direction. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #154
Letting multinationals run rampant over the 99% BarackTheVote Dec 2012 #166
If you're standing up for fairness and equality of opportunity, we've got your back. #OWS Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #88
Certain people still fear the effects of OWS Rex Dec 2012 #90
Well thanks BrentWil Dec 2012 #153
Dear OP, still waiting to hear all about the Thrid Way Moderate's program to help Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #91
You can be left of center and not be FAR LEFT AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #96
I don't BrentWil Dec 2012 #152
Hogwash AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #178
Being "moderate" is why we are in the situation we are in economically. mmonk Dec 2012 #97
And the 1930s are very liberal when compared to 1910... BrentWil Dec 2012 #151
How can the future be "DLC" when the DLC doesn't exist? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #102
The DLC is now The Third Way. It very much exists. They changed their sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #111
The DLC didn't change its name; it disbanded around the same time the RLC did. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #114
It morphed. But same policies and many of the same people. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #115
That is true BrentWil Dec 2012 #150
we should move to position our party as the moderate party? No thanks. bowens43 Dec 2012 #104
The Democratic leadership are ALL capitalists davidn3600 Dec 2012 #110
You could have made your point without bashing OWS Teamster Jeff Dec 2012 #113
There would be no fucking center-left if there was no far-left. RagAss Dec 2012 #127
Much depends on how one definies "business community" arcane1 Dec 2012 #129
OWS isn't Far Left. It includes the Far Left. You've heard of Horizontal Empowerment? nt patrice Dec 2012 #130
speak for yourself n/t warrprayer Dec 2012 #135
DLC's strategy is, 'if they'll move right, make em move righter.' closeupready Dec 2012 #136
The future is a Democratic Party that is pragmatic or BrentWil Dec 2012 #137
Politics swings like a pendullum - that's well-known. closeupready Dec 2012 #161
"Our future is center-left...": 2200 views, 9 recs DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #138
Interesting numbers, and actually a very hopeful sign Raksha Dec 2012 #139
Well... BrentWil Dec 2012 #140
point taken, r.e. multiple views DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #148
Your welcome NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #149
Bleh Marrah_G Dec 2012 #162
If you insist on spouting that shit could you at least throw a picture of TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #167
No, the labor movements are the "natural organizations to work with" for progressives. David__77 Dec 2012 #169
Labor and business are not natural enemies NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #172
! Fumesucker Dec 2012 #173
They aren't BrentWil Dec 2012 #174
Man is not a rational animal, man is an animal that rationalizes Fumesucker Dec 2012 #175
That is why I used the term "natural" BrentWil Dec 2012 #193
Tell that to "business". HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #176
Middle class demand creates jobs, really.. BrentWil Dec 2012 #194
As far as business is concerned . . . markpkessinger Dec 2012 #189
That is largely correct BrentWil Dec 2012 #195
I did not say. Labor should lead capital in an alliance. David__77 Dec 2012 #188
Gosh, thanks for clearing that up for us deutsey Dec 2012 #177
FUCK the DLC. kath Dec 2012 #180
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Lol, probably not that much. Or they would get better representation. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #185
Balderdash! markpkessinger Dec 2012 #186
Obama is a Republican from the 1960s. So what? BrentWil Dec 2012 #192
Problem is that center left is now CALLED far left. DirkGently Dec 2012 #197
FUCK DLC Panasonic Dec 2012 #198
Is that some sort of threat? BrentWil Dec 2012 #199
You don't get to claim Obama or even Bill Clinton DevonRex Dec 2012 #203
Not to be an ass, but the poor spelling made me give up reading your post. octothorpe Dec 2012 #204
I know the difference BrentWil Dec 2012 #208
The DLC needs to fuck off. Chan790 Dec 2012 #206
I think I am going to hurl lunasun Dec 2012 #207
The OP did...right up there /\ renie408 Dec 2012 #211
What do you mean 'we', pale face? renie408 Dec 2012 #209
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