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sabrina 1

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44. Benefits should NEVER be cut. Never. Benefits should be increased.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 03:51 AM
Dec 2012

The SS fund has a two trillion dollar surplus and it will double by the year 2023 even if the economy and employment rates stay as they are now.

This fund is separate from the Federal Budget so money going out from that fund has nothing to do with the Fed. Budget.

To increase benefits now, would stimulate the economy, it would be a stimulus that the people themselves already paid for and it would not come from the Federal Budget.

People paid into this fund. The morons in our Government who borrowed from to pay for the Bush tax cuts and their insane useless, wars for profit, had no business doing so. They lied about the wars and the cost, they lied about the Bush cuts which cost this country 2 trillion dollars. WE had to pay that Welfare check also.

The only reform Medicare needs is to lower the eligibility age, remove any middlemen and let the Government run it, as they successfully ran medicaid until the private corps got involved there also, raising the overhead for profit.

Medicare for all paid for the way every other civilized country pays for theirs.

But don't even think about cutting benefits. That money belongs to the people and no member of Congress, or unelected moron like Alan Simpson, or greedy lying Corporation has any right to touch that fund other than to make sure it goes to the people who own it.

Both are already expanding in cost terms banned from Kos Dec 2012 #1
The OP isn't about cost, and ProSense Dec 2012 #2
Yes, I believe that caps should rise before benefits are cut. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #5
WTF? ProSense Dec 2012 #6
I would not change the eligibility ages at all. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #9
You're ProSense Dec 2012 #10
No, current benefits are generous. banned from Kos Dec 2012 #15
Generous as compared to what? TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #20
Generous? Wow. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #35
You're wasting your time imo. Rex Dec 2012 #36
After putting into the system for 30 years, my disabled roommate gets $811 SSDI TexasBushwhacker Dec 2012 #43
wow! My lazy good for nothing brother brokechris Dec 2012 #46
Benefits should NEVER be cut. Never. Benefits should be increased. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #44
because we vote for centrists in primaries Enrique Dec 2012 #3
Begich and Harkin ProSense Dec 2012 #4
Why isn't Obama talking about it? n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #7
We have to wait for President Obama to talk about it before we do? ProSense Dec 2012 #8
Well he's kinda the leader of the Party leftstreet Dec 2012 #13
Does he lead our mouths? ProSense Dec 2012 #16
blah, blah, blah, feet to the fire, yeah yeah leftstreet Dec 2012 #19
Good thing you're ProSense Dec 2012 #22
good article riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #11
If you want to stimulate the economy JEB Dec 2012 #12
The 1% isn't concerned about more economic benefit, they already won that war. They are concerned Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #31
Because this country is all about screwing people! L0oniX Dec 2012 #14
no, because 47% voted last month to cut the benfits because they beleive the bullshit pasto76 Dec 2012 #32
for the U.S. to meet the standards of modern western democracy it would have to expand a great deal Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #17
Money is speech, corporations are people, corrupt Congress, that's how. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #34
Good question. Rec'd. nt Zorra Dec 2012 #18
That's the one question that isn't politically correct to ask. PDJane Dec 2012 #21
Because we have no representatives in DC Doctor_J Dec 2012 #23
The proposals in the OP ProSense Dec 2012 #24
Because wall street have been planning to steal that money for years and years Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #25
+1000 Cleita Dec 2012 #26
Ironically, Edmund Burke criticized the National Assembly in France burnsei sensei Dec 2012 #28
The reasons an expansion of these programs burnsei sensei Dec 2012 #27
We let corporations and the right dictate what we talk about AZ Progressive Dec 2012 #29
It has been expanded and is being expanded RB TexLa Dec 2012 #30
These charts are deceptive.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2012 #38
Lower infant mortality has the same effect on life expectancy and are part of the chart RB TexLa Dec 2012 #40
Republicans MAKE them deceptive by claiming people live longer... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2012 #41
because conservatives control the white house and congress nt msongs Dec 2012 #33
Lower the retirement age to 55.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2012 #37
Yes. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #39
it's not on the table; because the table is set by the ruling class. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #42
We lack Franklin Roosevelt's 75 seat Democratic Senate majority and a powerful US House caucus. Selatius Dec 2012 #45
Yes, that would help, but ProSense Dec 2012 #47
Kick! n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #48
Because both parties operate primarily out of or within mmonk Dec 2012 #49
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