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In reply to the discussion: I am SICK of hearing Cave Cave Cave! Anyone else? [View all]BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)52. Sadly, no matter how progressive he will be
probably as the most progressive president in our history, he'll never get a high five from the Purists on the Left. That's ok. They make up 4% of the Democratic Party. They are a loud and obnoxious fickle minority who no one outside their like-minded group will listen to anyway.
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blind Allegiance to anyone is not critical thinking. If he supported raising the age of Medicare,
still_one
Dec 2012
#1
What I don't get is that Medicare cuts aren't in sequestration, so why would it be in negotiations?
JaneyVee
Dec 2012
#8
They shouldn't be. Problem is a lot of things we hear from the media are trial balloons thrown out
still_one
Dec 2012
#15
Of course Medicare cuts are in negotiations. It was part of Obama's initial offer to Boehnerrecently
Honeycombe8
Dec 2012
#62
Seriously? No Illusions about anything else? Do you even know the list he did first term?
sheshe2
Dec 2012
#117
Why? The first time, I was fooled. The second time, I was told that Romney was worse.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#2
Because of her gender? Or because she has a big "D" after her name? When the Miranda rule was gutted
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#47
Your statement would not have made any sense before the election. It doesn't make any sense now.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#68
You meant a future election? Then you should wait 4 more years before making more silly statements.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#110
I wonder if you could explain to me exactly how that works. With the opposition WAITING
patrice
Dec 2012
#11
There is disagreement and then there are assumptions about disagreement. I ASKED
patrice
Dec 2012
#31
I have criteria. Raising the age of Medicare would be "caving" in my book. We shall see
still_one
Dec 2012
#12
When the real problem is that the people doing the criticizing don't seem to mind UNDERCUTTING
patrice
Dec 2012
#17
Agreed, but most people you're talking about don't know *H*O*W* what they want is to be
patrice
Dec 2012
#64
I don't agree the idea of "cutting benefits (is necessarily) in the imaginations of the critics"
patrice
Dec 2012
#60
IOW every assumes we're all talking about exactly & precisely the same thing with the word: benefits
patrice
Dec 2012
#61
For some people we'd like to see Republicans compromise. For once. Just once.
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#70
True! Most people don't have a very good guess at all about how that whole process works,
patrice
Dec 2012
#76
You said "I will take your back". Are you an American and eligible to be a Democrat and vote?
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#6
A simple "yes" would do. When there are people on this board who are not eligible to be Democrats
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#119
This is General Discussion, uniformity of thought has little place in real "discussion"
HereSince1628
Dec 2012
#9
True, but make that uniformity of anything, including lock-step BLIND contrarianism under
patrice
Dec 2012
#14
Some people, and maybe the most dis-empowered would have the strongest inclination in this direction
patrice
Dec 2012
#20
You say, "The MSM says the President will 'cave', ..." Do you have a link to support this?
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#67
Weird WilLIARd seemed undeniably worse. Pure lesser evilisim in probably a vain effort to buy time
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#26
exactly. "Because politics isn't religion, sports, or a fan club is why."
NuttyFluffers
Dec 2012
#88
No one should be doing any complaining until they have the final product in front of them...
Comrade_McKenzie
Dec 2012
#32
You are more than welcome. First rule of debate? Know how to spell, and....
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#54
Yes! I am sick of it! I've heard the M$M use this term when they speak of the POTUS...
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#37
And I can guaran-freaking-tee you MSM does NOT mean the same thing by "benefits" as you & I do.nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#65
We have to figure out how to make ourselves relevant without abandoning our principles.
patrice
Dec 2012
#82
I was happy to vote for President Obama and thrilled he won BUT that doesn't
forestpath
Dec 2012
#59
If Obama and the Democrats do cave on SS and Medicare, you better brace yourself.
WorseBeforeBetter
Dec 2012
#126