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AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
105. I have no respect for the Israeli extreme right......
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jan 2012

....but the Iranian mullah government is no better. If given the chance, they definitely would at least try to nuke a couple of Israeli cities to make their sick wet dreams of a second Holocaust to come true, just as some on the Israeli fringe right might want their country to launch a first strike so they can cheer the killing of innocent Iranians.

Frankly, I'd rather that neither country had nukes, if you want my opinion.

Or a way to threaten its neighbors. Something it has a long history of doing. onenote Jan 2012 #1
When was the last time Iran attacked one of its neighbors? Hugabear Jan 2012 #3
Iran has used proxies to wage war for decades now. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #9
So has the United States Hugabear Jan 2012 #16
I thought we were talking about Iran. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #19
And Israel has been waging a real war against Palestinians for even longer Hugabear Jan 2012 #22
Plus didn't Israel Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #82
You can't talk about Iran like that surfdog Jan 2012 #33
On the contrary, a nuclear Iran isn't good for anyone metalbot Jan 2012 #90
Wrong. Hezbollah was created by Israel when they invaded Lebanon and didn't leave eridani Jan 2012 #62
Hezbollah "even have Sunday Mass on their cable TV station." Leopolds Ghost Jan 2012 #116
Just pointing out that Hezbolla has a real community base eridani Jan 2012 #121
Oh my, no I could not say the Qouts force has been involved nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #60
It also has a history of having its government overthrown by the USA n/t arcane1 Jan 2012 #8
Yes, but Mossadegh's administration was a legitimate gov't that was WRONGLY targeted........ AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #67
regardless, Iran does have a constitutional elected republic. Leopolds Ghost Jan 2012 #117
I dunno about the "constitutional" and "elected" part. Selatius Jan 2012 #119
Incorrect. matmar Jan 2012 #11
No, but the Iranians would sure as hell try the minute they got one. nt AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #68
Are you sure you aren't confusing Iran with Israel? Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #101
Your post falls squarely within the proud progressive tradition of arguing for nuclear proliferation RZM Jan 2012 #2
I don't approve of anyone having nukes, but I still agree with the OP. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #5
I do feel America and Israel to blame for Iran's alleged desire to pursue nuclear weapons Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #6
Iran's reasons for wanting the bomb are similar to those of other nations RZM Jan 2012 #10
Last time I checked it wasn't a theocratic regime that actually used nukes.. matmar Jan 2012 #13
So let me get this straight RZM Jan 2012 #14
Strawman, non sequitur matmar Jan 2012 #18
No RZM Jan 2012 #25
Half-wit is correct fascisthunter Jan 2012 #38
Is the tone of your post meant to imply that Iran isn't to be allowed to "want" as do other nations? LooseWilly Jan 2012 #74
We've been through this many times RZM Jan 2012 #89
This doesn't explain your apparent self-delineation from the "left" LooseWilly Jan 2012 #91
Unfortunately RZM Jan 2012 #93
Sure, Iran WAS peaceful.........under Mossadegh. And look what happened to him. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #95
Unfortunately we seem to be living in bizarro world Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #24
and Yours Once again is Right Wing Reactionary fascisthunter Jan 2012 #37
That makes little sense RZM Jan 2012 #41
oh, is that your true motive fascisthunter Jan 2012 #48
Tell me. What's your preferred weapon when hunting fascists? RZM Jan 2012 #50
nib nub dur fascisthunter Jan 2012 #51
most likely cheetos. dionysus Jan 2012 #56
My my sir, you have certainly struck a mighty blow against fascist hunters!... LooseWilly Jan 2012 #77
Wow, thanks for that fascinating statement. joshcryer Jan 2012 #44
Thanks RZM Jan 2012 #45
Oops, sorry, not being sarcastic. It really does express something I couldn't put my finger on. joshcryer Jan 2012 #46
Hehe RZM Jan 2012 #47
A conservative Theocracy can still be a Nationalist representation... LooseWilly Jan 2012 #78
That's sort of how I feel about it. Iraq was the stabilizing factor in that region. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #4
"military invasion from the warmongering American empire" pinto Jan 2012 #7
We would be stupid to not stop them. onehandle Jan 2012 #12
Maybe we could instigate a coup.....oh wait.. matmar Jan 2012 #15
They're just as stupid as any other backward country that is run by a theocracy slackmaster Jan 2012 #17
Ah....what?? matmar Jan 2012 #20
I mis-read your subject line originally as saying they would be stupid TO develop an atomic weapon slackmaster Jan 2012 #30
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #79
Pardon me for erring by assuming that the idea suggested in the OP's subject line was sane. slackmaster Jan 2012 #92
But..but...we would never actually use our nuclear weapons on innocent people...oh, wait. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #21
"Innocent people?" MicaelS Jan 2012 #28
So, all those evil women and children deserved to be incinerated? Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #31
"Deserved"? No, but THEIR government started the war MicaelS Jan 2012 #34
By that measure, if the Vietnamese had nuked San Francisco it would have been OK. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #36
Oooops! You can hand MicaelS's head back to him now. Bonobo Jan 2012 #57
Thank you. nt AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #70
Well called sir.. spot on LooseWilly Jan 2012 #80
True Bonobo Jan 2012 #84
If the Vietnamese had the capability to nuke San Francisco, that would've been their prerogative Hippo_Tron Jan 2012 #113
So I guess you think 9/11 was really swell too? Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #107
Amazing! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #29
Iran would be stupid to develop a nuke. Muskypundit Jan 2012 #23
I certainly do hope that the Iranian people would be able to oust these horrible bastards..... AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #66
Yes, because proliferation of nuclear weapons is a big progressive value LeftishBrit Jan 2012 #26
LOL. Apparently Liechtenstein already has one . . . RZM Jan 2012 #27
Send the Marines PurityOfEssence Jan 2012 #43
Fuck yeah! Lets encourage everyone to have nukes! Ohio Joe Jan 2012 #32
Hmmmm... EX500rider Jan 2012 #35
Iran has Had to Have Known it was a Target... fascisthunter Jan 2012 #39
Nukes are undoubtedly a deterrent against rival states fujiyama Jan 2012 #40
"Sees itself surrounded"? Jeebus. How about "They really ARE surrounded!" eridani Jan 2012 #69
That's what the poster said. "Sees itself surrounded" TransitJohn Jan 2012 #73
Oh, OK. n/t eridani Jan 2012 #75
Look what happened to Hussein and Qaddafi PurityOfEssence Jan 2012 #42
The idea of the only country with a history of dropping nukes on civilians tells others Bonobo Jan 2012 #49
Nobody's disupting that the US killed alot of people with the atomic bombs in 1945 RZM Jan 2012 #54
Undoubtedly, Iran wants to be the next......or one of the next. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #65
Ok, assuming Iran even intends to develop nuclear weapons, which isn't given, and can bomb Haifa... LooseWilly Jan 2012 #81
I can't help but think the oil companies are actually going to side with Iran, if possible. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #98
Certainly good protection for presidents/dictators but don't do much for real people. North Korea pampango Jan 2012 #52
And I believe they would rejoice once Iran gets its first nukes. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #99
It is not just an insurance policy, it is THE insurance policy. Fool Count Jan 2012 #53
It's really not an insurance policy at all stevenleser Jan 2012 #58
If that was the case, US would not care if Iran had nuclear weapons Fool Count Jan 2012 #76
You are mixing several things up. stevenleser Jan 2012 #94
That's you who are confused. Both of your points Fool Count Jan 2012 #96
Worked very well for North Korea. ZombieHorde Jan 2012 #55
No, it didn't. There were never any plans to invade North Korea. stevenleser Jan 2012 #59
Your timeline is off nadinbrzezinski Jan 2012 #61
"Worked well for North Korea"n politicians/family of dictators; not so well for NK people. pampango Jan 2012 #88
North Korea already had conventional weapons to serioulsy hurt Tokyo and Seoul Hippo_Tron Jan 2012 #114
I'm sorry, but please STFU and wake up to reality. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #63
This is utter nonsense eridani Jan 2012 #71
It's not the nukes themselves, you are correct. However, it IS the intent which is the threat...... AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #100
Right. And I have stated a desire to date Robert Redford eridani Jan 2012 #103
I have no respect for the Israeli extreme right...... AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #105
Oh, get real! eridani Jan 2012 #106
And that's why I would rather see peaceful revolution in that nation instead of war. nt AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #109
We don't believe in nuclear proliferation Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2012 #64
OMFG! They're THREATENING all the military bases we have them surrounded with! eridani Jan 2012 #72
"retain" an even-tempered adult as president? LooseWilly Jan 2012 #83
You can't be president without swearing allegiance to the military-industrial complex eridani Jan 2012 #97
I actually agree with most of this....... AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #108
The fundie government has been in power since 1979 eridani Jan 2012 #110
They just haven't had the chance yet. Saddam beat them to it once. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #111
Unsubstantiated opinion, period. eridani Jan 2012 #112
Well, the part about Iran not having invaded anyone since 1829 is true.... AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #120
Even fundies understand nuclear obliteration eridani Jan 2012 #122
Well..... AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #123
Regardless of starting from different premises-- eridani Jan 2012 #124
I don't care if they get the bomb Mudoria Jan 2012 #85
I don't think they need to be told that, it's pretty much understood Hippo_Tron Jan 2012 #115
I think all nations should have them, especially if they are rich with resources, as a detterent got root Jan 2012 #86
Sure they would madokie Jan 2012 #87
Don't forget that Israel has one as well. Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #102
I wonder what the response would be if the discussion were on Israel's right to have the bomb n/t Leopolds Ghost Jan 2012 #118
Israel's getting tense, wants one in self-defense. The Lord's our shepherd, says the Psalm, slackmaster Jan 2012 #125
Frankly, I wish Israeli didn't have nukes either. AverageJoe90 Jan 2012 #126
K'd & R'd! DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #104
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