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In the discussion thread: Rice under fire from left as Kerry's name won't go away [View all]

Sun Dec 9, 2012, 01:04 AM

71. Come on. Rice was clearly the Administration's first choice.

I like John Kerry- who, by the way, ALSO voted for the IWR- but I hate to see us lose a Senate seat.

And i don't buy for a Minute that this has been some 15 Dimensional GOP chess. They want Rice to go down so they can prove that they "took her out" because of the Bhengazi "scandal"....

There's no scandal, of course, but they've spent the past 2 months flogging it on FOX and they don't want to look stupid, sitting here with a case of scandalus interruptus and nothing to show for it. If they can remove Rice from SOS consideration, they can point to the "victory" and say "seee? There must have been something there, after all!!"

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106 replies	Author	Time	Post
Rice under fire from left as Kerry's name won't go away [View all]	Playinghardball	Dec 2012	OP
If John Kerry has no exposure to oil or the pipeline I will be flabbergasted.	dkf	Dec 2012	#1
what helps KErry is he actually has a senate record and he has been good	JI7	Dec 2012	#3
It's already on the record that Rice is more interventionist than Kerry.	dkf	Dec 2012	#9
i'm talking about the environmental issues in the OP	JI7	Dec 2012	#13
This message was self-deleted by its author	politicasista	Dec 2012	#29
His money is in a true blind trust	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#51
Can you say that Rice not have her money in a blind trust? The woman has $23-45 million. nt	bluestate10	Dec 2012	#53
I don't know what her financial situation is	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#58
She is massively wealthy, $23-45 million net. It is hard to know exactly everything a person	bluestate10	Dec 2012	#83
From previous statements by his office, the stocks listed on Senate disclosures	karynnj	Dec 2012	#95
and if the repugs win his senate seat, once again we are screwed	samsingh	Dec 2012	#2
This message was self-deleted by its author	politicasista	Dec 2012	#19
The purist don't give a fuck about that. Honestly, they are worst than teabaggers some time. nt	bluestate10	Dec 2012	#54
if people proporting to be JK's friends are doing this, aren't they now swiftboating someone?	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#4
really, you compare this to swift boating ?	JI7	Dec 2012	#5
What a disgusting right wingish comment.	ProSense	Dec 2012	#6
He apparently owns the same stock she does	dsc	Dec 2012	#7
he also has a senate record with votes on these issues	JI7	Dec 2012	#8
that seems to be one and the same, isn't it? That is disgusting.	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#11
they have no right to question the investments and how it might relate to her decisions as SOS ?	JI7	Dec 2012	#14
politics as usual games against the president.	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#16
not if they are supporting someone who also owns the stock	dsc	Dec 2012	#21
but they have answers to the other person through their record in the senate	JI7	Dec 2012	#27
Only if she was actually SoS and had not divested and was making the decision.	jeff47	Dec 2012	#25
what if her decision would not be favorable to her investments ?	JI7	Dec 2012	#28
Did you read my post at all?	jeff47	Dec 2012	#31
but what if she doesn't sell and makes her decision would not be favorable	JI7	Dec 2012	#34
:facepalm:	jeff47	Dec 2012	#45
That you see NRDC as a fan group or political super pac shows you will say anything, no matter what	blm	Dec 2012	#52
My angle is not wanting a republican Scott Brown to reclaim a seat -he would win	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#72
Baloney - your 'concern' is BS. GOP hawks WANT Rice and are jerking Dems around as usual.	blm	Dec 2012	#74
No, I LIKE Susan Rice. I don't vote against someone, I vote FOR them.	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#77
Not buying what you're trying to sell.	blm	Dec 2012	#80
one needs to read and absorb, but I am not trying to change your mind.	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#82
Some of us know EXACTLY what you're doing.	blm	Dec 2012	#84
Becoming a senior Senator meant very little	karynnj	Dec 2012	#99
the line of succession in NY is great. In Mass. BECAUSE SOLELY OF KERRY-it now sucks biggie!	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#104
Kerry doesn't own stock	ProSense	Dec 2012	#15
Thanks for sticking up for the Senator	politicasista	Dec 2012	#17
MA is a community property state	dsc	Dec 2012	#18
I don't give a shit! n/t	ProSense	Dec 2012	#20
sorry you don't find facts to your liking	dsc	Dec 2012	#23
Here's a fact	ProSense	Dec 2012	#24
I don't have a problem with either one owning the stock	dsc	Dec 2012	#32
Quit the	ProSense	Dec 2012	#44
yes blind trusts are an equal opportunity scam	dsc	Dec 2012	#46
And your point is still nonsense. n/t	ProSense	Dec 2012	#47
The difference is that they are not blind trusts set up by Kerry	karynnj	Dec 2012	#100
JK and Teresa took legal steps to keep their finances separate from day one.	blm	Dec 2012	#49
unless she isn't planning on leaving him anything	dsc	Dec 2012	#59
It's completely separate. The Heinz sons and grandchildren are the only beneficiaries.	blm	Dec 2012	#60
"His" stocks are owned by trusts that he or Teresa are beneficiaries of but do not control	karynnj	Dec 2012	#97
the decision to buy isn't the worry	dsc	Dec 2012	#98
I think the decision to buy is significant if you are against getting oil from the tar sands	karynnj	Dec 2012	#103
From all accounts, his people are and have been silent on this because he	karynnj	Dec 2012	#101
No - these are environmental groups speaking on .... environmental issues	karynnj	Dec 2012	#96
This message was self-deleted by its author	politicasista	Dec 2012	#10
Secretary Kerry = Senator Brown	Ruby the Liberal	Dec 2012	#12
This message was self-deleted by its author	politicasista	Dec 2012	#30
You folks do know that president	okieinpain	Dec 2012	#22
He might- if and when concerns are addressed	Proud Liberal Dem	Dec 2012	#42
I'm tired of all of this	frazzled	Dec 2012	#26
so when NBC finally pays attention to this	Enrique	Dec 2012	#33
it would be boring without the political angle	JI7	Dec 2012	#35
carpmanjohn	Hogfish1	Dec 2012	#36
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site.	hrmjustin	Dec 2012	#37
Interesting	politicasista	Dec 2012	#39
Well I wanted Kerry but now I want the President to pick a fight and go with Rice.	hrmjustin	Dec 2012	#40
This message was self-deleted by its author	politicasista	Dec 2012	#43
Exactly as GOP expected. You really think McCain and Co don't prefer Rice and are cornering Obama	blm	Dec 2012	#55
Wishful thinking that it took the GOP to do that...the Dems are more than capable. Sad.	libdem4life	Dec 2012	#41
This message was self-deleted by its author	politicasista	Dec 2012	#48
You posted that before me...	Mass	Dec 2012	#66
It is his call...that's why it's so frustrating.	libdem4life	Dec 2012	#67
We have debated the issue of Kerry vacating the seat over and over. Some people can't	bluestate10	Dec 2012	#61
This message was self-deleted by its author	politicasista	Dec 2012	#62
Diane Feinstein. Who's next, Joe Lieberman.	Mass	Dec 2012	#65
I think Obama will keep Feinstein on the straight and narrow. Getting her out of the Senate	bluestate10	Dec 2012	#68
Actually, we've discussed it	Le Taz Hot	Dec 2012	#75
I see this as a GOP move to cost us a Senate Seat.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2012	#38
More like a GOP dog and pony show to promote Rice the neocon over Kerry the noninterventionist	blm	Dec 2012	#50
Come on. Rice was clearly the Administration's first choice.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2012	#71
Not a chess game - it's a dog and pony show. When have GOP hawks ever come out so vocally	blm	Dec 2012	#76
BTW - I don't buy the Rice as first choice scenario. GOP's going out of their way to ACT like she is	blm	Dec 2012	#79
Global warming and other damage will be unimpacted by the pipeline?	TheKentuckian	Dec 2012	#57
And whether or not Rice becomes SOS isnt going to make or break whether it happens.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2012	#69
So you hold that the pipeline will not have an adverse effect on the climate and environment?	TheKentuckian	Dec 2012	#87
That's the other thing people do. They put words in people's mouths so they can have the argument	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2012	#88
That is EXACTLY my interpretation of what you are doing	TheKentuckian	Dec 2012	#93
You responded to me, first.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2012	#94
Obama needs to name his pick and support them through the process.	morningfog	Dec 2012	#56
He will name his pick when the appropriate time comes- AFTER INAUGURATION	graham4anything	Dec 2012	#73
"Kerry's name won't go away"	bluestateguy	Dec 2012	#63
This message was self-deleted by its author	Mass	Dec 2012	#64
It's silly to see Kerry as the "left" alternative for SoS.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#70
That shows how inattentive you were back then, Ken, and apparently still inattentive today.	blm	Dec 2012	#81
in 2004, Kerry ran AGAINST the antiwar movement.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#89
Baloney, Ken - you bought into a NARRATIVE that suited your inattentiveness. Plain and simple.	blm	Dec 2012	#90
I read it. I also lived through it.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#91
Pure BS. Your demand that the Dem needed to run against the reality that existed	blm	Dec 2012	#92
I'll concede that he was SLIGHTLY differerent...fine.	Ken Burch	Dec 2012	#105
You trust McCain and the other GOPs sincerity? Rice is a neocon who are easily manipulated by hawks.	blm	Dec 2012	#106
The administration was smart NOT to appoint Elizabeth Warren as head of the CFPA	tularetom	Dec 2012	#78
I don't understand why Progressives keep pushing Kerry.	bluestate10	Dec 2012	#85
Let me see, how many Senators voted for Kerry/Feingold?	karynnj	Dec 2012	#102
here`s 20 pages of her financial holdings and such...	madrchsod	Dec 2012	#86

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