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ProSense

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99. That idea

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 08:40 PM

Dec 2012

sucks: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021940823

And you keep reposting the OP as if you have a vested interest.

Medicare gets 42% of funding from general revenues, 37% from payroll taxes and 13% from premiums
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Medicare is directly connected to the deficit. 40% of its funding is the general fund. [View all] dkf Dec 2012 OP

Point? mmonk Dec 2012 #1

This is why Medicare is going to have more attention during the deficit talks. dkf Dec 2012 #2

We shouldn't be having deficit talks. The economy is not strong enough. mmonk Dec 2012 #7

Fixing our projected fiscal problems can also be a stimulus. dkf Dec 2012 #13

Medicare has low overhead and does not slow or harm the economy. mmonk Dec 2012 #19

They want to gut social security and medicare. lalalu Dec 2012 #34

Force the elderly to sell off assets to pay for health care. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #72

Those in power (the rich) want to cut Medicare because they know that iemitsu Dec 2012 #87

Look at the UK nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #20

It worked for Germany earlier. dkf Dec 2012 #76

Only if you can't do math. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2012 #94

Military. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #22

+1 nt Zorra Dec 2012 #37

CBO is projecting a decrease in military spending from 4.3% to 3.0% of GDP over next 10 years. dkf Dec 2012 #49

We spend nearly 20% of the GNP on health care iemitsu Dec 2012 #88

Yes we don't get as much for our healthcare dollar. dkf Dec 2012 #110

Well, we get a class of rich MD's iemitsu Dec 2012 #111

Corporate Tax loop holes. Phlem Dec 2012 #51

Increase revenue by ending Bush tax cuts and taxing the wealthy. nt Zorra Dec 2012 #61

yep Phlem Dec 2012 #85

*Medicare isn't the problem. Rising health care costs are the problem. BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #63

+1 Go Vols Dec 2012 #97

Just increase the premiums for those making in excess of 250K. For social security raise the CAP. still_one Dec 2012 #70

Fair enough, but the focus needs to be on reducing costs Telly Savalas Dec 2012 #107

That's accurate and good to keep in mind. randome Dec 2012 #3

For now maybe... dkf Dec 2012 #4

I'm all for taking care of problems BEFORE they become too much to handle. randome Dec 2012 #10

Interesting charts - the Trustees' report doesn't seem to be quite that gloomy. enlightenment Dec 2012 #14

100% of the deficit would disappear instantly if only-- eridani Dec 2012 #106

Oh Look! A Mediscare thread! leftstreet Dec 2012 #5

+1000 abelenkpe Dec 2012 #9

LOL lalalu Dec 2012 #32

Thanks for clearing that up. bemildred Dec 2012 #6

Or maybe they think the $ grows on trees. dkf Dec 2012 #16

No, it's all little magnetic dots nowadays, except for the paper and coins in your pocket. nt bemildred Dec 2012 #17

as "money" is an accounting abstraction represented by paper tokens at the retail level Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #28

No, they think the tax payers will pay their gambling debts, as we have so far. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #102

Here we go! 99Forever Dec 2012 #8

So---let's make it 50 percent...hell 60. trumad Dec 2012 #11

Does NOT explain why revenue is seemingly off the table.... Wounded Bear Dec 2012 #12

I am all for a complete overhaul of the healthcare system. dkf Dec 2012 #15

No one else is. randome Dec 2012 #25

Hm. That's funny. randome Dec 2012 #29

Canada. dkf Dec 2012 #50

That's the name of a country. Not an explanation of how to overhaul our health system. randome Dec 2012 #52

Seriously? What more do you need? dkf Dec 2012 #56

Medicare works as is. randome Dec 2012 #59

The Canadian system is much more efficient. dkf Dec 2012 #64

All those changes can be implemented. randome Dec 2012 #66

It's worse than that... dkf Dec 2012 #67

That looks like good old-fashioned FRAUD. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #71

Or doctors will just get a full range of the most expensive services ordered for each patient. dkf Dec 2012 #73

'Medicare Bills' = billing practices. randome Dec 2012 #79

I'm for a complete overhaul as well... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #69

There was a report about this very thing - "they" have built a Medicare Hestia Dec 2012 #90

It's not just the fraud that is a problem. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #93

100% of military spending comes from taxes. DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #18

And Social Security has 0% impact on the deficit MiniMe Dec 2012 #21

Military spending is 100% connected to the general fund. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #23

Funny how the repub lites around here liberalhistorian Dec 2012 #31

and it is 50% money down the toilet, no benefit except big booms. Coyotl Dec 2012 #95

Ya but...but MEDICARE!!! Rex Dec 2012 #104

Medicare has two easily soluble problems: Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #24

absolutely and your part 1. would reduce unemployment OKNancy Dec 2012 #36

Has anyone seen my unrec button? Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #26

+1 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #27

the rec list of this thread is "interesting". Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #46

Makes you wonder BlueCaliDem Dec 2012 #54

How can you discuss the program and its funding without knowing how it works? dkf Dec 2012 #53

We don't NEED to discuss its funding. randome Dec 2012 #55

How can you discuss raising revenue if you don't understand how the revenue is currently generated? dkf Dec 2012 #58

My statement stands. randome Dec 2012 #60

Well you can always cut education, R&D and infrastructure before Medicare I guess dkf Dec 2012 #75

You're being disingenuous. randome Dec 2012 #82

If you want less military adventures you really need to oppose Susan Rice as S of S. dkf Dec 2012 #86

You're assuming that the forum members aren't aware of funding, revenue, etc. already. Hestia Dec 2012 #91

Can't say I've seen it. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #81

I swiped it. I was feeling a strong urge to unrec some threads more than once. n/t gkhouston Dec 2012 #98

I can't believe you are still posting your dribble. lalalu Dec 2012 #30

He/she still hasn't explained what is meant by 'a complete overhaul'. randome Dec 2012 #33

Sounds like GOP-speak for vouchers Major Nikon Dec 2012 #39

You just have to quietly stand up to them and then they go away. randome Dec 2012 #42

Not entirely fair. Repubs lite do not generally advocate for single payer eridani Dec 2012 #109

100% of military spending comes out of the general fund Major Nikon Dec 2012 #35

too much big money sucking on that teat eShirl Dec 2012 #108

So what? Some things are worth having Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #38

Quite a bit of that 40% is due to the higher costs incurred by using private insurers Major Nikon Dec 2012 #40

You don't have to convince me that "for profit" insurers are a problem. Curmudgeoness Dec 2012 #48

Exactly. Medicare's worth every penny. n/t backscatter712 Dec 2012 #83

Part D is the only part that should be on the table. Luckily, the fix is simple. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #41

The government receives money; the government spend money - the rest is accounting BS FarCenter Dec 2012 #43

Let people be able to buy in at 50. Or single payer. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #44

$454,393,280,417.03 interest paid on national debt could easily erase that deficit. nt jody Dec 2012 #45

If the deficit currently caused any real-world problem this would be more interesting cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #47

Thanks for shedding some light. elleng Dec 2012 #57

Medicare did not cause the deficit. So what's your point? sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #62

+1 forestpath Dec 2012 #65

Bingo. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of military programs.... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #74

One solution is a new payroll tax for part B and D that increases as costs go up. dkf Dec 2012 #78

That idea ProSense Dec 2012 #99

Not everyone is here 24/7 you know. Frankly I never see this point made in the public discussion. dkf Dec 2012 #101

What a ProSense Dec 2012 #103

Military spending is approx $700B but the deficit is $1.2T taught_me_patience Dec 2012 #89

Yes, but the largest cause is the poor economy jeff47 Dec 2012 #100

Aww come on...not falling for the FUD!?! Rex Dec 2012 #105

It is virtually impossible Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #68

Medicare's financial problems disappear if you go to a single-payer system for everyone. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #77

I can think of a few ways to address the deficit without cutting Medicare benefits. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #80

Death panels will solve this problem Capt. Obvious Dec 2012 #84

Oooh, oooh ProSense Dec 2012 #92

Let's move the age to 76 then....let the fucking bodies pile up in the streets !!!! RagAss Dec 2012 #96