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46. yes blind trusts are an equal opportunity scam
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 07:39 PM
Dec 2012

again, if you and I know the Senator's wife is invested in the company then so does he. Frankly I would prefer that we have a complete list of assets coupled with recusing of the party in situations where the person owns greater than a certain amount of stock and/or has the potential of earning a certain amount from a given decision. I think that makes sense regardless of the party of the decision maker in question.

If John Kerry has no exposure to oil or the pipeline I will be flabbergasted. dkf Dec 2012 #1
what helps KErry is he actually has a senate record and he has been good JI7 Dec 2012 #3
It's already on the record that Rice is more interventionist than Kerry. dkf Dec 2012 #9
i'm talking about the environmental issues in the OP JI7 Dec 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #29
His money is in a true blind trust democrattotheend Dec 2012 #51
Can you say that Rice not have her money in a blind trust? The woman has $23-45 million. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #53
I don't know what her financial situation is democrattotheend Dec 2012 #58
She is massively wealthy, $23-45 million net. It is hard to know exactly everything a person bluestate10 Dec 2012 #83
From previous statements by his office, the stocks listed on Senate disclosures karynnj Dec 2012 #95
and if the repugs win his senate seat, once again we are screwed samsingh Dec 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #19
The purist don't give a fuck about that. Honestly, they are worst than teabaggers some time. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #54
if people proporting to be JK's friends are doing this, aren't they now swiftboating someone? graham4anything Dec 2012 #4
really, you compare this to swift boating ? JI7 Dec 2012 #5
What a disgusting right wingish comment. ProSense Dec 2012 #6
He apparently owns the same stock she does dsc Dec 2012 #7
he also has a senate record with votes on these issues JI7 Dec 2012 #8
that seems to be one and the same, isn't it? That is disgusting. graham4anything Dec 2012 #11
they have no right to question the investments and how it might relate to her decisions as SOS ? JI7 Dec 2012 #14
politics as usual games against the president. graham4anything Dec 2012 #16
not if they are supporting someone who also owns the stock dsc Dec 2012 #21
but they have answers to the other person through their record in the senate JI7 Dec 2012 #27
Only if she was actually SoS and had not divested and was making the decision. jeff47 Dec 2012 #25
what if her decision would not be favorable to her investments ? JI7 Dec 2012 #28
Did you read my post at all? jeff47 Dec 2012 #31
but what if she doesn't sell and makes her decision would not be favorable JI7 Dec 2012 #34
:facepalm: jeff47 Dec 2012 #45
That you see NRDC as a fan group or political super pac shows you will say anything, no matter what blm Dec 2012 #52
My angle is not wanting a republican Scott Brown to reclaim a seat -he would win graham4anything Dec 2012 #72
Baloney - your 'concern' is BS. GOP hawks WANT Rice and are jerking Dems around as usual. blm Dec 2012 #74
No, I LIKE Susan Rice. I don't vote against someone, I vote FOR them. graham4anything Dec 2012 #77
Not buying what you're trying to sell. blm Dec 2012 #80
one needs to read and absorb, but I am not trying to change your mind. graham4anything Dec 2012 #82
Some of us know EXACTLY what you're doing. blm Dec 2012 #84
Becoming a senior Senator meant very little karynnj Dec 2012 #99
the line of succession in NY is great. In Mass. BECAUSE SOLELY OF KERRY-it now sucks biggie! graham4anything Dec 2012 #104
Kerry doesn't own stock ProSense Dec 2012 #15
Thanks for sticking up for the Senator politicasista Dec 2012 #17
MA is a community property state dsc Dec 2012 #18
I don't give a shit! n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #20
sorry you don't find facts to your liking dsc Dec 2012 #23
Here's a fact ProSense Dec 2012 #24
I don't have a problem with either one owning the stock dsc Dec 2012 #32
Quit the ProSense Dec 2012 #44
yes blind trusts are an equal opportunity scam dsc Dec 2012 #46
And your point is still nonsense. n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #47
The difference is that they are not blind trusts set up by Kerry karynnj Dec 2012 #100
JK and Teresa took legal steps to keep their finances separate from day one. blm Dec 2012 #49
unless she isn't planning on leaving him anything dsc Dec 2012 #59
It's completely separate. The Heinz sons and grandchildren are the only beneficiaries. blm Dec 2012 #60
"His" stocks are owned by trusts that he or Teresa are beneficiaries of but do not control karynnj Dec 2012 #97
the decision to buy isn't the worry dsc Dec 2012 #98
I think the decision to buy is significant if you are against getting oil from the tar sands karynnj Dec 2012 #103
From all accounts, his people are and have been silent on this because he karynnj Dec 2012 #101
No - these are environmental groups speaking on .... environmental issues karynnj Dec 2012 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #10
Secretary Kerry = Senator Brown Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #30
You folks do know that president okieinpain Dec 2012 #22
He might- if and when concerns are addressed Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #42
I'm tired of all of this frazzled Dec 2012 #26
so when NBC finally pays attention to this Enrique Dec 2012 #33
it would be boring without the political angle JI7 Dec 2012 #35
carpmanjohn Hogfish1 Dec 2012 #36
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #37
Interesting politicasista Dec 2012 #39
Well I wanted Kerry but now I want the President to pick a fight and go with Rice. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #43
Exactly as GOP expected. You really think McCain and Co don't prefer Rice and are cornering Obama blm Dec 2012 #55
Wishful thinking that it took the GOP to do that...the Dems are more than capable. Sad. libdem4life Dec 2012 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #48
You posted that before me... Mass Dec 2012 #66
It is his call...that's why it's so frustrating. libdem4life Dec 2012 #67
We have debated the issue of Kerry vacating the seat over and over. Some people can't bluestate10 Dec 2012 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Dec 2012 #62
Diane Feinstein. Who's next, Joe Lieberman. Mass Dec 2012 #65
I think Obama will keep Feinstein on the straight and narrow. Getting her out of the Senate bluestate10 Dec 2012 #68
Actually, we've discussed it Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #75
I see this as a GOP move to cost us a Senate Seat. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #38
More like a GOP dog and pony show to promote Rice the neocon over Kerry the noninterventionist blm Dec 2012 #50
Come on. Rice was clearly the Administration's first choice. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #71
Not a chess game - it's a dog and pony show. When have GOP hawks ever come out so vocally blm Dec 2012 #76
BTW - I don't buy the Rice as first choice scenario. GOP's going out of their way to ACT like she is blm Dec 2012 #79
Global warming and other damage will be unimpacted by the pipeline? TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #57
And whether or not Rice becomes SOS isnt going to make or break whether it happens. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #69
So you hold that the pipeline will not have an adverse effect on the climate and environment? TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #87
That's the other thing people do. They put words in people's mouths so they can have the argument Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #88
That is EXACTLY my interpretation of what you are doing TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #93
You responded to me, first. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #94
Obama needs to name his pick and support them through the process. morningfog Dec 2012 #56
He will name his pick when the appropriate time comes- AFTER INAUGURATION graham4anything Dec 2012 #73
"Kerry's name won't go away" bluestateguy Dec 2012 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Mass Dec 2012 #64
It's silly to see Kerry as the "left" alternative for SoS. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #70
That shows how inattentive you were back then, Ken, and apparently still inattentive today. blm Dec 2012 #81
in 2004, Kerry ran AGAINST the antiwar movement. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #89
Baloney, Ken - you bought into a NARRATIVE that suited your inattentiveness. Plain and simple. blm Dec 2012 #90
I read it. I also lived through it. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #91
Pure BS. Your demand that the Dem needed to run against the reality that existed blm Dec 2012 #92
I'll concede that he was SLIGHTLY differerent...fine. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #105
You trust McCain and the other GOPs sincerity? Rice is a neocon who are easily manipulated by hawks. blm Dec 2012 #106
The administration was smart NOT to appoint Elizabeth Warren as head of the CFPA tularetom Dec 2012 #78
I don't understand why Progressives keep pushing Kerry. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #85
Let me see, how many Senators voted for Kerry/Feingold? karynnj Dec 2012 #102
here`s 20 pages of her financial holdings and such... madrchsod Dec 2012 #86
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