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DavidDvorkin

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10. His wife and children are Jewish

Reply to rhett o rick (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 10:46 PM

Dec 2012

So maybe that's not the right appeal.

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Mr. President, please pardon Gov Don Siegelman so he can have Christmas with his family. nm [View all] rhett o rick Dec 2012 OP

and INVESTIGATE ROVE AND ALEC UNDER RICO ACT HowHasItComeToThis Dec 2012 #1

I agree. But let's start with a pardon. That should be easy, unless I am missing something. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #22

It can be as easy as saying Scooter Libby. joeunderdog Dec 2012 #82

Technically Scooter never got a pardon. Bush commuted his prison sentence. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #84

I would prefer that the conviction be rescinded. A pardon would mean he did something sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #87

I am not familiar with the "rescind" process. How does that work? nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #88

Well, in the case of Republican Sen. Ted Stevens, Eric Holder asked a Judge sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #89

What judge does he have to get to agree to drop the case? nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #94

That I don't know. Maybe there are legal experts here who might. Probably a judge sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #95

no argument there former-republican Dec 2012 #25

Hear, Hear! Unknown Beatle Dec 2012 #50

Not 'almost.' It is treason. Octafish Dec 2012 #47

typo? navarth Dec 2012 #77

Thank you! Good catch! Octafish Dec 2012 #79

Glad to be or service, Honorable Octafish. nt navarth Dec 2012 #86

And investigate and prosecute war crimes Vincardog Dec 2012 #2

Yes yes yes northoftheborder Dec 2012 #3

Is your last name 'Bruce?' jonthebru Dec 2012 #13

Why is this man in jail Loki Dec 2012 #4

Cheers to that. n/t theaocp Dec 2012 #9

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #17

K&R Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #5

Yes. Highly recommend. nt Zorra Dec 2012 #6

Amen! nt blaze Dec 2012 #7

agreed and kicked. end the travesty. navarth Dec 2012 #8

His wife and children are Jewish DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #10

That does not mean we can't give them a gift. jonthebru Dec 2012 #16

Sure DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #19

How in the world can it be inappropriate to want him OUT OF PRISON???????? nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #20

Inappropriate to link it to being with his family for Christmas DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #56

Good grief. How do you know that he doesnt appreciate Christmas? Esp if he is free. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #60

The Christian provincialism of some of these reactions is astonishing. DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #63

I think you are over reacting. I am not religious. I just thought it would be nice for him rhett o rick Dec 2012 #65

Of course it's not about me. It's about the fact DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #66

Christmas is an event in December. One can speak of it w/o advocating Christianity. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #69

A Christian event in December DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #74

And you know that they dont recognize Christmas how? Interesting that you rhett o rick Dec 2012 #75

I don't know, and I didn't assert that DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #81

For Harry_Scrote Dec 2012 #32

Better to just leave religion out of it DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #57

OK...Chanukah, then...or just "The Holidays". Ken Burch Dec 2012 #90

Just "The Holidays" would be a big improvement. DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #96

Nothing would make me happier! arthritisR_US Dec 2012 #11

K&R ReRe Dec 2012 #12

Oooh, noice sig line upi402 Dec 2012 #15

Si, Senor... ReRe Dec 2012 #18

Obvious - YES! upi402 Dec 2012 #14

I still femrap Dec 2012 #21

And please serve up a nice, fully cooked canned ham Blue Owl Dec 2012 #23

Sounds yummy! KamaAina Dec 2012 #29

Is he guilty ? former-republican Dec 2012 #24

I understand why Republicans want him in prison. He was a popular and powerful Democrat. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #34

He is NOT guilty and did nothing illegal DeeDeeNY Dec 2012 #35

interesting former-republican Dec 2012 #39

Please watch the video. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #70

I just watched the quick 13 minute one former-republican Dec 2012 #80

add to that... it's nothing compared to what has been happening since Citizens United n/t oldhippydude Dec 2012 #59

Not only was Siegelman innocent and railroaded PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #61

He wasn't even impolite, or out-of-line in any sense of the morningglory Dec 2012 #78

No, and if he was, then every politician on both sides of the aisle belongs in prison sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #91

Your last sentence DeeDeeNY Dec 2012 #97

K & R AzDar Dec 2012 #26

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #27

Chanukah nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #28

Liberal War on Xmas! sellitman Dec 2012 #30

According to wikipedia, Don Siegleman is Roman Catholic. smokey nj Dec 2012 #31

And you think if they were raised in the Jewish Faith nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #33

I don't know what they celebrated or how they celebrated, I just pointed out that Don Siegelman smokey nj Dec 2012 #40

And from interviews In places like Raw Story nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #41

Can you provide links to those interviews? smokey nj Dec 2012 #42

They implied the family was raised Jewish nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #44

Mixed-faith families often celebrate both traditions. smokey nj Dec 2012 #45

Really? Ok nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #46

Yes, really. Mixed-faith families often honor both traditions. smokey nj Dec 2012 #48

Whatever, have a good life nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #58

has anyone actually approached the President to do this? what's the delay? samsingh Dec 2012 #36

I would also like to know what the delay is. I believe more than one petition has been submitted to rhett o rick Dec 2012 #38

With a paltry 2% pardon rate..... DeSwiss Dec 2012 #37

Pardon rate of what? neffernin Dec 2012 #43

I live in Alabama and I know the story. K&R trof Dec 2012 #49

+1000. nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #64

This should have never happened, & freeing him is long over-due. dmr Dec 2012 #51

Better yet, let Rove take his place. n/m liberalmuse Dec 2012 #52

Amen! Bozita Dec 2012 #53

Usually Presidential pardons are granted only after the sentence is completed. hack89 Dec 2012 #54

Didnt Nixon get pardoned before serving any time? rhett o rick Dec 2012 #62

There are exceptions but they are rare. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #67

Well let's make Gov Seigelman an exception since it is possible. Dont you agree? nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #68

I think he should be pardoned. hack89 Dec 2012 #71

I dont see any connection. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #72

Obviously the President does hack89 Dec 2012 #73

It's not about only doing what the American people care very much about. It's about righting a rhett o rick Dec 2012 #76

He won't pardon. former9thward Dec 2012 #55

I wouldn't hope for any action until the last days of his term dballance Dec 2012 #83

This is a tragedy that Pres Re-elect Obama could fix. But sadly, I think you are right. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #85

Actually, I can't figure out why Obama hasn't pardoned Siegelman already. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #92

I dont see that the Pres has anything to lose pardoning Siegelman. I believe the more he does to rhett o rick Dec 2012 #93