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46. I had that very argument with some RWers at work -- the worm would turn, and someone they

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 05:11 PM

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hated would inevitably have the same powers under the Patriot Act. So think again. Of course they didn't, and now they are going on and on about 'Obummer' doing this or that, when Bush did the exact same thing and they didn't even peep. There's no teaching them, I've found.

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NSA Whistleblower: Everyone in US under virtual surveillance, all info stored, no matter the post [View all] Whovian Dec 2012 OP

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Finally, bipartisanship. nt OnyxCollie Dec 2012 #2

Change you can believe in. villager Dec 2012 #4

OK. Before everyone explodes, what it "virtual surveillance?" nt kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #38

I kind of assumed that to be the case. It says a lot about how much gateley Dec 2012 #3

I agree and.. Fedaykin Dec 2012 #20

I worked on a US Navy project in 1982 as a defense contractor (a long time ago!!).... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #5

Russia Today clearly isn't a propaganda station like Faux News. : | rDigital Dec 2012 #6

They have a much broader range of perspectives. Overseas Dec 2012 #8

Like the Russian Government's perspective. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #9

With RTV, it depends on the program. Sometimes the Russian "point of view" is really obvious JDPriestly Dec 2012 #10

I like Thom. I wish the locals would hire him. RT, just rubs me the wrong way. rDigital Dec 2012 #13

Some people just don't like being shown their own dirty laundry Ya Basta Dec 2012 #35

You can read about it in more detail in The Guardian or the NYT reorg Dec 2012 #11

I appreciate the links and your candor. RT, just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #12

Americans wish our news wasn't as biased as it is. Want to think we're back in the old days Overseas Dec 2012 #56

is the information in the OP true or false? did the person quoted say it, or not? HiPointDem Dec 2012 #43

K&R. Overseas Dec 2012 #7

Just wait until the Democrats retake the House Fumesucker Dec 2012 #14

Should Happen in a Decade or Three AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #15

Then of course, they will have to "keep their powder dry". Kurovski Dec 2012 #17

What is technically possible will be done, has been done since the 1950's. freshwest Dec 2012 #16

I remember my dad advising me never to say anything on the phone at work pacalo Dec 2012 #18

I wonder if the number of times I've said the F-word will come back to haunt me. I expect some form freshwest Dec 2012 #41

Thank you, freshwest, for reinforcing a point I have made for many years -- if the technology Nay Dec 2012 #28

Agreed. There was a Glenn Beck fan who was threatening to kill Democrats for voting for the ACA. freshwest Dec 2012 #42

Tip of the iceberg, indeed. If most people knew how much of their stuff was out there, they'd puke Nay Dec 2012 #45

I see it more likely that they are being offered the information for a contract. Especially when freshwest Dec 2012 #52

Bugging the Buggers-Here's a way to Trigger Echelon triplepoint Dec 2012 #19

I hope you have your affairs in order. No pun intended. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #25

You Betcha! triplepoint Dec 2012 #39

My god! If anyone learns what I've been posting here on DU I'll go to prison for life! Kablooie Dec 2012 #21

See ya in the clink, kablooie.... Nay Dec 2012 #29

k&r (nt) enough Dec 2012 #22

Does anyone really think that "intellegence" didnt know about Gen Patraeus' affair rhett o rick Dec 2012 #23

+1 HiPointDem Dec 2012 #50

Write an email using the words C4 and New York in Farsi, and then watch the vans circle your house JPZenger Dec 2012 #24

Fear not, citizens! Boring Man to the rescue! Buns_of_Fire Dec 2012 #26

Thank goodness we have a Democratic Constitutional scholar in the White House! woo me with science Dec 2012 #27

'1984' was supposed to be a WARNING--not a MISSION STATEMENT!! lastlib Dec 2012 #30

Kick. Ignoring it does not make it go away. woo me with science Dec 2012 #31

Yes, we do! Hydra Dec 2012 #32

+10000 We are played like fools. woo me with science Dec 2012 #34

Kick. Ignoring it does not make it go away. woo me with science Dec 2012 #33

I am going to Venezuela to meet with the Tepuis... Tikki Dec 2012 #36

Wouldn't be surprising. What else wouldn't be surprising MineralMan Dec 2012 #37

So those in power get to use the Patriot Act as they see fit. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #40

I had that very argument with some RWers at work -- the worm would turn, and someone they Nay Dec 2012 #46

I agree, but we have the same problem in our backyard. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #47

True, although I personally am not one of those people. Between drones, Patriot Act, and a few Nay Dec 2012 #49

I'm not surprised.. sendero Dec 2012 #44

James Bamford has been writing about this for around 2 decades. Liberal In Texas Dec 2012 #48

Of course. Simple logic dictates that this must be true. What's up, Agent Mike? Zorra Dec 2012 #51

The American people never had a chance to vote on this and we never will. limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #53

Yup, when has our Democratic President EVER been forced to answer questions about this woo me with science Dec 2012 #54

Kick. Ignoring it does not make it go away. woo me with science Dec 2012 #55