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jody

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122. If someone can't start for the reasons you give, then she/he should thank the owners of a business

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:54 PM

Dec 2012

who might be able to give them a job as the OP demands.

Those owners clearly had the right stuff to deal with the factors you list.

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Millennials don't want to be coddled, they want jobs! [View all] white_wolf Dec 2012 OP

You should be out looking for a job leftstreet Dec 2012 #1

Are there not even any entry-level jobs to be had either? sadbear Dec 2012 #2

Sure there are some, but not near enough. white_wolf Dec 2012 #5

No. sagat Dec 2012 #9

Not really davidn3600 Dec 2012 #23

Actually, This Boomer RobinA Dec 2012 #30

It's the worst since 1931. n/t white_wolf Dec 2012 #34

Retail isnt what it used to be davidn3600 Dec 2012 #40

I graduated college in 2000 Nikia Dec 2012 #39

The key item in your post, "1998", the height of the tech boom Yavin4 Dec 2012 #77

26 million looking, 3.6 million jobs available. jtuck004 Dec 2012 #93

The "Millennials are coddled" meme is used to justify victim-blaming. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #3

Not even victim-blaming as much as simply justifying smug superiority Posteritatis Dec 2012 #137

I think the kids getting out of school now are having it real bad. LiberalArkie Dec 2012 #4

It is a different world. Lurker Deluxe Dec 2012 #19

It is a different world. white_wolf Dec 2012 #24

You are right that college has been pushed for decades. yewberry Dec 2012 #159

Millennials should start their own businesses. Obama says he supports small businesses. Small jody Dec 2012 #6

You're joking right? Not everyone can start their own small business or even want to. white_wolf Dec 2012 #8

Not joking. nt jody Dec 2012 #13

Yeah, I didn't think so. Admit it you are libertarian. white_wolf Dec 2012 #14

I'm a democrat who agrees with Jefferson and Madison and the rights of each individual that govt. is jody Dec 2012 #16

No one said anything about denying people the right start small businesses. white_wolf Dec 2012 #18

Your OP said "Millennials . . . want jobs!" My posts point out that each person seeking a job has jody Dec 2012 #25

Why don't you answer Kesterl19's question. white_wolf Dec 2012 #27

One place to start is your local small business center. jody Dec 2012 #33

Let's play your game and assume everyone has the money to start a business. white_wolf Dec 2012 #38

Only an idiot would dream of trying to compete with those major firms. There are however many jody Dec 2012 #44

For some sure. white_wolf Dec 2012 #45

If someone doesn't have the skills to start a business, then they will always be an employee. jody Dec 2012 #49

That's my whole point. There aren't enough jobs for people to be employees at. n/t white_wolf Dec 2012 #51

We agree there are not enough jobs. New jobs come either from expanding production when demand is jody Dec 2012 #54

supply sider, eh? busted dionysus Dec 2012 #151

How do think new jobs are created? nt jody Dec 2012 #152

by the demand side. supply means shit if people are too broke to buy the product. dionysus Dec 2012 #153

Demand triggers increase in existing production or new production as I said. jody Dec 2012 #155

You mean like how Walmart competed with AlexSatan Dec 2012 #113

When Jefferson and Madison lived, land was plentiful. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #28

Beyond that using both Jefferson and the Constitution as appeals to authority is rather ironic. white_wolf Dec 2012 #32

Agree re land but computers were not available to Jefferson and Madison. Why don't you jody Dec 2012 #41

it's very difficult for a small-business start-up to survive with all the government restrictions. white_wolf Dec 2012 #43

That's also a left-wing talking point. Democratic platform says: jody Dec 2012 #46

The argument for getting rid of regulation is very right-wing. white_wolf Dec 2012 #47

So when Obama supports getting rid of regulations that affect small-businesses he is just another jody Dec 2012 #53

It is very hard to start a small business. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #99

When you quit with the ad-hominem attacks on liberals and liberal ideas CreekDog Dec 2012 #143

Re: your number 2. morningfog Dec 2012 #164

That's a figure of speech to describe the present situation. You might choose other words to jody Dec 2012 #167

You belong to the party of "I Got Mine, Screw You". kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #136

I don't want my taxes being used to pay off the gambling debts of another. Apparently you do so go jody Dec 2012 #139

Another right-wing talking point that devoid of facts or empathy. white_wolf Dec 2012 #148

Apparently you do approve govt. taking your money and paying the gambling debts of others. jody Dec 2012 #149

Anti-union too CreekDog Dec 2012 #142

Where do you propose that new graduates with a mountain of debt and no assets kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #17

I'm very much looking forward to hearing his response to your post. white_wolf Dec 2012 #21

Perhaps those students chose a degree that has little value, i.e. they made a bad decision. jody Dec 2012 #26

You sound just like a libertarian. Admit it, you love Atlas Shrugged. white_wolf Dec 2012 #29

Nice way to avoid the question. RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #73

What question interests you? nt jody Dec 2012 #75

Where do you propose young people get money for kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #98

I've answered that question. Small Business Center will help. nt jody Dec 2012 #100

Someone in this thread replied to your post on that... white_wolf Dec 2012 #131

That's been my experience, however Obama touts the Small Business Administration. Recently he jody Dec 2012 #133

They're giving away free money?? kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #138

If you have a problem with that, then write Obama. jody Dec 2012 #140

your signature line is recommending a conservative pipe dream CreekDog Dec 2012 #144

So, what do you have to say to the many graduates of VETERINARY kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #97

Even vets aren't find work? white_wolf Dec 2012 #101

Yes, they chose the wrong degree. nt jody Dec 2012 #102

It was the right degree when they got into vet school. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #135

Your statements ignore the facts. There are many jobs for veterinarians that do not involve jody Dec 2012 #141

They borrow it from their parents, of course. JoeyT Dec 2012 #105

we should just borrow the money from out parents fizzgig Dec 2012 #163

You are wrong. Boomers has the highest per capital business startup rate of any american bluestate10 Dec 2012 #157

My "boomers didn't start business" was a general comment. white_wolf Dec 2012 #158

It would be a lot easier for anybody to do that if this country had a national health plan. nt raccoon Dec 2012 #31

+1,000. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #147

Very few people can start businesses, even if they know what they want to do. LiberalArkie Dec 2012 #56

Understand re new business. Did you ask your areas Small Business Center for help? If yes were they jody Dec 2012 #57

A little late, I never knew of such places. My problems were getting set up for visa cards and such LiberalArkie Dec 2012 #129

I believe small business start-ups or growth can make major contributions to breaking out of the jody Dec 2012 #130

I tried, and it's really, REALLY slow. sakabatou Dec 2012 #103

Well clearly you just didn't work hard enough and made bad life decisions. white_wolf Dec 2012 #104

Outstanding! I wish more would try to start a business. They would find how difficult it is and gain jody Dec 2012 #109

Why haven't you been banned, yet, for posting this RW garbage? Odin2005 Dec 2012 #110

Easier said than done, and without a safety net, very risky bhikkhu Dec 2012 #117

And this start up cash and audience for their product is going to come frommm, where? HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #118

If someone can't start for the reasons you give, then she/he should thank the owners of a business jody Dec 2012 #122

many business owners didn't start their businesses CreekDog Dec 2012 #145

Ugh frostfern Dec 2012 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #126

Have you tried to start a small business? If yes did you survive or go bankrupt? Perhaps you didn't jody Dec 2012 #127

Seriously, how is Jody not banned. white_wolf Dec 2012 #132

This is the worst time to be starting out since the Great Depression. Chisox08 Dec 2012 #7

Exactly. I wasn't even born when Regan was elected both times and... white_wolf Dec 2012 #10

Many of us boomers are very likely to get screwed. amandabeech Dec 2012 #108

Thank you. Leveraged buyouts are to blame. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #35

I agree with you 100%. AverageJoe90 Dec 2012 #11

This is true. And we sure as hell don't want to work at Walmart. Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #12

Nervy of them, expecting jobs to exist. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #15

"Are there no poor farms?" - Republicans Berlum Dec 2012 #20

I feel your pain....I can't stand hearing how the Boomers were indulged. This one wasn't. raccoon Dec 2012 #22

As a parent myself, silentwarrior Dec 2012 #36

What you say is true with EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #37

It is a different world in some ways but the same in others. redstatebluegirl Dec 2012 #42

+1 AlexSatan Dec 2012 #114

I feel for you. Matariki Dec 2012 #48

AMEN iandhr Dec 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2012 #52

Sorry to say, but your son is the exception not the rule. white_wolf Dec 2012 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2012 #65

There are thousands more who are out there every day trying to make it. white_wolf Dec 2012 #67

Yes, Yes, I Know otohara Dec 2012 #72

I hear you dmr Dec 2012 #92

Uh, given his education he has a RIGHT to expect a good "cushy" job! Odin2005 Dec 2012 #111

I hope you meant to put a sarcasm tag AlexSatan Dec 2012 #116

An electrical engineer below 60k? And you wonder WHY you got no interest? HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #119

That's funny AlexSatan Dec 2012 #120

No he is not AlexSatan Dec 2012 #115

No Engineering because of the Math and Physics redstatebluegirl Dec 2012 #125

I don't think that most people are educated about jobs Nikia Dec 2012 #168

Anyone who is researching colleges AlexSatan Dec 2012 #169

The internet has made job research easier, but that knowledge is limited in many career areas Nikia Dec 2012 #170

IMO it's not your fault. Problem is K-12 schools don't prepare students for jobs and universities jody Dec 2012 #58

Damn, preparing good little workers seems to be all most K-12 schools do these days. sadbear Dec 2012 #60

Probably correct and teaching to the national/state tests in reading and math seem to dumb down the jody Dec 2012 #61

His Best School Was The Private K-12 otohara Dec 2012 #69

otohara, I have a 26 year old EmeraldCityGrl Dec 2012 #63

I'm Having A Hard Time Respecting otohara Dec 2012 #68

Unfortunately guardian Dec 2012 #121

I fail to see how this has anything to do with Millenials Hippo_Tron Dec 2012 #150

white_wolf: Listen to me. I'm old and I work at a law firm. kaiden Dec 2012 #59

Thank you for the advice.... white_wolf Dec 2012 #64

I do too. Springslips Dec 2012 #134

K&R, I've got a job interview tonight! Thanks for posting! alp227 Dec 2012 #62

Sadly it seems that meme has infected DU as well. As you can see from some of the posters here. white_wolf Dec 2012 #66

Let Me Coddle You otohara Dec 2012 #80

No, simply because your son made poor choices you choose to blame an entire generation. white_wolf Dec 2012 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2012 #85

I would, but you see I already have one and I'm in college full time. white_wolf Dec 2012 #86

There aren't any. JoeyT Dec 2012 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2012 #128

It's a different world Hydra Dec 2012 #70

Dear whiite-wolf ReRe Dec 2012 #71

What kind of job are you looking for? What kind of work do you MineralMan Dec 2012 #74

Yup. New "Lost Generation"? Taverner Dec 2012 #76

Don't buy into and then regurgitate generational bullshit to me. Warpy Dec 2012 #78

Did you even read my post? white_wolf Dec 2012 #82

Did you look upthread? JoeyT Dec 2012 #107

My heart goes out to all younger people, the world is much crueler. It's not right. nt Mnemosyne Dec 2012 #79

Most annoying Millennial trait: thinking everyone wants to hear about being a Millennial. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #81

If you don't like the thread then don't read it. white_wolf Dec 2012 #84

Oh, fuck a duck, I agree with you there. 100%. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #87

Odd Your DU Symbol is Anonymous otohara Dec 2012 #88

It's actually in support of Occupy Wall Street. white_wolf Dec 2012 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author otohara Dec 2012 #90

What's wrong with supporting Occupy Wall Street? n/t white_wolf Dec 2012 #91

Are you for real? Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #146

That's a Boomer trait. Odin2005 Dec 2012 #112

Yes Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #123

I agree, and the older generation always does this treestar Dec 2012 #94

Your post made me smile. white_wolf Dec 2012 #95

Manufacturing jobs aren't coming back until someone stands up to Wal-Mart & China. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #124

It's double tough on them. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #96

Twice the experience for half the compensation with a quarter of the benefits... Earth_First Dec 2012 #154

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #160

Did you vote for Obama? hrmjustin Dec 2012 #161

I dunno I could kind of go for some coddling. I got jobs. craigmatic Dec 2012 #162

a lot of the perception is due to things like arely staircase Dec 2012 #165

I don't know of anyone who wants to be coddled, other than corporations and the rich. gkhouston Dec 2012 #166

I felt the same way when I was young Generic Brad Dec 2012 #171