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In reply to the discussion: "Handguns...exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing.... [View all]Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)11. What a level headed guy, Jason Whitlock. He needs to keep writing, being read
being quoted and being heard, especially among the duh fringe of the sports crowd.
Guns are stupid is as stupid does.
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"Handguns...exacerbate our flaws, tempt us to escalate arguments, and bait us into embracing.... [View all]
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
OP
Fact, govt. is not obligated to protect any individual not in custody. Question. who do you expect
jody
Dec 2012
#1
I don't refute any of your bs, I just hope you "accidentally" refute yourself, and it hurts.
xtraxritical
Dec 2012
#51
Are you unable to refute my statements? That seems the case with your ad hominem attacks. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#54
Do you assert that "Handguns" produce those results? What about the other things criminals
jody
Dec 2012
#124
Your so-called "facts" are irrelevant and stupid to this discussion. Red herring, strawmen
morningfog
Dec 2012
#150
I did not say the statements you quote are facts. The facts I gave place the burden of proof on
jody
Dec 2012
#154
Again, this discussion is not about abolishing the right to guns. You are trying to make it that.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#156
You want to change the gun culture. What law do you propose to make that change? nt
jody
Dec 2012
#157
You refuse to acknowledge the obvious. OP introduces gun culture and gun control but no one
jody
Dec 2012
#164
Look at movies, video games and popular music and you will answer your own question.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#195
And where are their charts? I miss those charts! We usually get the same ones in every gun
CTyankee
Dec 2012
#215
guns =/= forks =/= pencils =/= cars & pretending that they do ought to disqualify one to own
patrice
Dec 2012
#260
National Center for Injury Prevention and Control reports Homicide Firearm 11,073 for 2010.
jody
Dec 2012
#176
bullshit. The "inalienable" part is about LIFE. It's one of the first things mentioned
pasto76
Dec 2012
#19
Love how a plea for sanity always brings out the gun nuts ready to defend their stupid worship
abelenkpe
Dec 2012
#26
The unique thing about our government is our Constitution requires it to protect the unalienable
jody
Dec 2012
#120
IMO it was unique in 1776. It's also the longest surviving government, Iceland is questionable, of
jody
Dec 2012
#155
This is the part of your post that is logically wrong (and factually challenged)...
Sancho
Dec 2012
#95
The right to keep and bear arms for self-defense is not limited to firearms. To begin, what federal
jody
Dec 2012
#151
If guns were "the best choice" wouldn't that mean THE most efficacious? Is that the fact? No.
patrice
Dec 2012
#109
Correct, ergo guns don't necessarily accomplish whatever it is that one assumes they
patrice
Dec 2012
#221
I was thinking of defensive tools that recognize the causes of danger, before it's too late.
patrice
Dec 2012
#229
Are you telling me that people with guns don't kill others for anything but self defense? wow. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#234
Please quote directly what part(s) you can't understand & I will clarify. Thanks. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#237
What, pray tell, is "natural" about the ability to hurl multiple small pieces of metal at wildly
patrice
Dec 2012
#116
False equivalence. There are significant qualitative differences between tools, otherwise we'd all
patrice
Dec 2012
#220
So a knife is the same thing as an armed drone and, therefore, you have a "right" to use either
patrice
Dec 2012
#226
You said that using tools is a natural ability of homo sapiens and, by implication, that's some kind
patrice
Dec 2012
#236
It's not a non sequiteur (sic) just because you fail to see the connection, in the same manner that
patrice
Dec 2012
#227
You assume that there is one and ONLY one way to defend life, liberty, property etc. & that way
patrice
Dec 2012
#122
How is saying handguns are the best choice not also saying one should do nothing less than the best
patrice
Dec 2012
#239
Tell me why the best choice would not be also the ONLY choice when it comes to "defense". nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#255
Because we have free will, and some people come to different results than others...
PavePusher
Dec 2012
#257
Free will? Let's not go there, rightnow, suffice it to say that I disagree with anyone who disputes
patrice
Dec 2012
#261
Huh? Are you guaranteeing that there are no guarantees? & If you are defending yourself, why
patrice
Dec 2012
#263
Sorry! I couldn't resist that. I actually agree with you. There are only probabilities. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#264
Are you saying that BECAUSE police use guns, we should too, since police pose a threat to us?
patrice
Dec 2012
#127
So, just how much danger are all of us in, from police & under what circumstances?
patrice
Dec 2012
#243
Or - are you saying that we face the same threats that police do, so we should have guns too?
patrice
Dec 2012
#128
We, ALL of us, live in high probability of direct assault multiple times a day, just like
patrice
Dec 2012
#235
Ah! something we agree upon & which also definitely falls in the category of thinking about
patrice
Dec 2012
#238
People chose to bring themselves closer to the brink by purchasing the gun....
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
#5
Yes, that is true. People who know they are close to the brink shouldn't buy guns.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#21
That's because it is a survey paper. There are about 100 citations at the end of it, which
DanTex
Dec 2012
#25
Guns do make people less safe. If you are intent on ignoring the evidence, that's your choice.
DanTex
Dec 2012
#36
I will not ignore any credible study you cite. Problem is you have not yet done so. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#40
Of course, you will simply label any study that contradicts your dogma as "not credible".
DanTex
Dec 2012
#41
Please cite any post in which I said a "study . . . [was] 'not credible'" without disputing the
jody
Dec 2012
#48
Yes, it is. The poster is far too transparent and obvious to be taken seriously.
morningfog
Dec 2012
#140
"hands of those who pulled the trigger" of course were innocent bystanders when that handgun killed
jody
Dec 2012
#142
Why don't you illuminate those who read this thread by providing facts. You can start by
jody
Dec 2012
#111
You keep changing the subject every time you are proven wrong. And now you have ceased making
DanTex
Dec 2012
#115
Freedom of speech = government can't prosecute speech, but employers may regulate workers' speech.
alp227
Dec 2012
#149
What a level headed guy, Jason Whitlock. He needs to keep writing, being read
Dont call me Shirley
Dec 2012
#11
Do you believe Democrat Obama lied when he promised "I will not take your shotgun away, I won't take
jody
Dec 2012
#56
Do you have a quote where Obama evolved by saying in essence "I will take your shotgun away, I will
jody
Dec 2012
#100
I'm in agreement with much of Mr. Whitlock's commentary, however I see it as the culture of violence
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#17
If you didn't know he was a football player, he would have been the last person you expected.
bluedigger
Dec 2012
#53
I didn't know much about him. That is very, no obvious sign of a typical "troubled" youth.
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#59
RE: nuclear weapons. The "Truman needs the test before he confronts Stalin." story tells the tale..
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
#39
Thanks. I wonder how many know that this was written and earlier published by someone else.
elleng
Dec 2012
#32
In whatever tragic situation, all other factors being the same, it's the presence of a gun that
patrice
Dec 2012
#33
The late-great Paul Newman did one in a series for a group called Cease Fire.....
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
#47
Football is one of the most violent sports in the world. That man was MADE of violence. The gun is
rDigital
Dec 2012
#88
Actually, from growing up with gun culture, I'd say the gun culture encourages the opposite.
ancianita
Dec 2012
#90
Well hand guns are made for killin' They ain't no good for nothin' else
SomethingFishy
Dec 2012
#104
Not true. It's say, "Fuck economic & social justice" + say, "Guns!" = panic about gun ownership.
patrice
Dec 2012
#133
And it is guns that enables some people to say, "Fuck economic & social justice." nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#138
And those people definitely are not necessarily in law enforcement at Fed or state level as
patrice
Dec 2012
#141
One doesn't need to engage in aberrant behavior to recognize aberrance
DisgustipatedinCA
Dec 2012
#199
Gun CULTURE. Guns have become a part of the Gangsta lifestyle one the one hand....
Junkdrawer
Dec 2012
#180
I find it amazing that no one on TV is addressing the domestic violence part of the story..
rainlillie
Dec 2012
#254