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TM99

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25. It is not belief

Reply to HiPointDem (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 05:47 AM

Dec 2012

if you are unwilling to discuss freely why you stated what you did.

Fine, I have no problem respecting your decision not to discuss it further, however, please don't go around stating untruths, half-truths, or out-right errors concerning the University of Phoenix and diploma mills if you are not willing to share the reasons and be open to discussion & even counter-arguments.

I am not blindly defending the University of Phoenix as I do know as an alum the very real issues that have developed there in the last decade in particular. But having been educated at a variety of different institutions ranging from ones like UoP to an Ivy League, there are problems today that are far bigger than any one single institution that all face and that negatively impact learners today.

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Will the Ivy League schools make it through the on-line education scams? [View all] CK_John Dec 2012 OP

These places are much more than an education to the top elite... Earth_First Dec 2012 #1

Why would you wonder that? pipoman Dec 2012 #2

Why not? CK_John Dec 2012 #3

Students also go there for lifelong associations through clubs and fraternities/sororities. no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #4

Only if you have a job and when 50% of college grads are unemployed CK_John Dec 2012 #5

Here's the thing. If you're at Harvard or Yale, no_hypocrisy Dec 2012 #13

It's not 50% for those from top universities Nikia Dec 2012 #16

SUNY in NY runs a large online program. Renew Deal Dec 2012 #9

Exactly, Kansas state institutions pipoman Dec 2012 #10

There's a huge difference between U of Phoenix-type classes and legitimate online WilmywoodNCparalegal Dec 2012 #6

I think you are mixing education with making a buck. When guys like CK_John Dec 2012 #8

Misinformation TM99 Dec 2012 #11

it's a diploma mill funded with taxpayer dollars in the form of student loans. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #17

It is not a diploma mill....period. TM99 Dec 2012 #19

we'll agree to disagree. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #20

Afraid not TM99 Dec 2012 #23

I disagree. But you can keep your belief in my erroneousness while agreeing to disagree. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #24

It is not belief TM99 Dec 2012 #25

it is a belief, just as belief in gravity. the belief may be true, may be false, but it's a belief. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #26

Semantic bullshit at this point TM99 Dec 2012 #27

not asking you to do anything. i don't care if you agree with me, just trying to end HiPointDem Dec 2012 #28

We have a system of local state colleges that offer many quality on-line classes that give many jwirr Dec 2012 #15

I have on child who is an ivy league student. aandegoons Dec 2012 #7

lol! yardwork Dec 2012 #12

They're starting their own on-line degree programs. Barack_America Dec 2012 #14

Yes they will. Because people would sell their souls to get in. white_wolf Dec 2012 #18

NYU is a very good school. I've known several NYU Law grads, amandabeech Dec 2012 #21

NYU's my dream law school. white_wolf Dec 2012 #22

Believe me, Yalies get all the "big law" that they want. n/t amandabeech Dec 2012 #29