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Vox Moi

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41. No Apology at all. Just sayin' that RedQueen's post was counterproductive.

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:40 PM

Dec 2012

The post introduces the video of a particular set of offensive behaviors as a problem exclusive attributable to males (not true).
The post fails to explain exactly what 'sexual harassment' refers to. Just the scenarios on the video? Other behaviors?
I don't think the video pretended to be an all-encompassing representation of what sexual harassment is, but what subset is RedQueen referring to?
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The term 'sexual harassment', used without qualification, leads to the impression that sexual harassment is something that only men do.
I'm not saying RedQueen meant that, it reads that way to me.
I am saying that it's hard to have productive discussions on this if the opening premise is 'Your Fault".

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Sexual harassment is not a joke. It's not ok. Playing along DOES NOT HELP. [View all] redqueen Dec 2012 OP

Sexual harassment is not exclusive to men Vox Moi Dec 2012 #1

It does but not on near the scale nor with near the outcomes that it does against women TeamsterDem Dec 2012 #3

true, according to EEOC statistics - and also, men are frequently the perps against other men. spooky3 Dec 2012 #5

I wasn't familiar with that fact but it's interesting regarding male-on-male harassment TeamsterDem Dec 2012 #7

Yes, more often to women but ... Vox Moi Dec 2012 #6

Agreed, it's never acceptable and I didn't intend to disagree with you TeamsterDem Dec 2012 #8

But the important thing is that Vox M. turned the focus away from the BIGGER problem.. left coaster Dec 2012 #10

No he didn't. nt TeamsterDem Dec 2012 #11

yes. i am betting not even a significant number when it is street harassment. almost exclusively seabeyond Dec 2012 #18

Thank you for this reply! Party Favors Dec 2012 #19

That is the only possible explanation etherealtruth Dec 2012 #34

It's not the only one, but it's a possible one, yes. Claiming knowledge of someone's intent TeamsterDem Dec 2012 #35

Yes. It is about abuse of power. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #9

I got into fights with my co-workers who thought it was okay to yell lewd remarks to little girls... freshwest Dec 2012 #44

"This damned sprained ankle's just as bad as your severed arm!" (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #27

You sound a bit of an apologist intaglio Dec 2012 #31

No Apology at all. Just sayin' that RedQueen's post was counterproductive. Vox Moi Dec 2012 #41

Comparing notes with other thirty-something unmarried men... Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2012 #40

fine.... i absolutely support any man being harassed. wrong is wrong. nt seabeyond Dec 2012 #17

+1 :) discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2012 #33

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #22

It's wrong which ever gender is doing it Marrah_G Dec 2012 #49

Playing along DOES NOT HELP it encourages egregious behavior and... Little Star Dec 2012 #2

A few months ago, Brigid Dec 2012 #4

Oh you can tell the creeps on the bus. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #13

I love those guys! wryter2000 Dec 2012 #12

lol. i love 'em also, they are the cutest. for real. nt seabeyond Dec 2012 #15

I love these guys too! Brigid Dec 2012 #20

one of my very favorite videos on womens issues. nt seabeyond Dec 2012 #14

I love them all! CrispyQ Dec 2012 #16

We had a discussion here about a cartoon a while back pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #21

and this... is one of my favorite cartoons about this issue. thanks. nt seabeyond Dec 2012 #24

I had to save that cartoon, sb. It was just too good. pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #37

ahhh seabeyond Dec 2012 #38

Sleep well, sweet Princess. :) nt pinboy3niner Dec 2012 #39

Pinboy, thanks for that. From someone who's been there. freshwest Dec 2012 #48

That's awesome. Thank you for it. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #26

Bingo Little Star Dec 2012 #28

Excellent!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #30

Yeah, that is the best, reminds me of fear Tsiyu Dec 2012 #45

I love this ismnotwasm Dec 2012 #23

Thanks redqueen. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #25

Thanks for posting this. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #29

K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #32

No, it's not. nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #36

Except one woman's definition of harassment is another's definition of friendly banter. Daemonaquila Dec 2012 #42

Was she within earshot? redqueen Dec 2012 #43

Get. Over. It. Daemonaquila Dec 2012 #46

Whatever you and your friends think, fewer and fewer women are willing to tolerate male chauvinist redqueen Dec 2012 #47