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The Monster of Monticello [View all] salvorhardin Dec 2012 OP
He had also included a clause in the DOI that stated that slavery should be abolished. The anti- sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #1
Jefferson was not the sole author of the Declaration of Independence salvorhardin Dec 2012 #3
The phrase "Life, Liberty and Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #10
Life, liberty, and property was John Locke. Not Paine white_wolf Dec 2012 #31
Woops! Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #35
Rather than a monster, I'd call him an amateur business man. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2012 #2
That's what I keep saying about Nixon salvorhardin Dec 2012 #5
Given the science since Jefferson's time, wonder what he'd be saying today. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2012 #23
Slavery Is All Wrong colsohlibgal Dec 2012 #4
He was a product of his times BernieO Dec 2012 #15
Jefferson's views on slavery are hypocritical to say the least. white_wolf Dec 2012 #6
Jefferson appears to have questioned whether African-Americans JDPriestly Dec 2012 #7
yet he found them human enough to arely staircase Dec 2012 #8
Yes, especially since there was no doubt about bestiality and pedophilia. KitSileya Dec 2012 #11
lots of compartmentalizing arely staircase Dec 2012 #18
He was utterly confused on this topic. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #22
He fathered children NOLALady Dec 2012 #27
after the revolution he specifically noted how profitable his slave operation was. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #12
....... when the love of money trumps all .... principles are just words .... MindMover Dec 2012 #26
Slavery was an evil that was a long standing aspect of Judeo-Christian religions and cultures. Zorra Dec 2012 #9
Washington was the only major planter among the seven Founding Fathers to emancipate his slaves. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #13
Wait, doesn't that mean that it was his wife, Martha, who freed his slaves after he died? Zorra Dec 2012 #44
They both had slaves which belonged to them personally. In his will GW directed that his be freed HiPointDem Dec 2012 #45
The best book on Jefferson was written by an African-American woman, Annette Gordon Reed. Peace Patriot Dec 2012 #14
"he did very poorly, financially, and died penniless" hedgehog Dec 2012 #21
living beyond his means was part of it, but he also had the misfortune to die during a long HiPointDem Dec 2012 #29
I read that book also. Sally Hemmings was a very interesting woman. jwirr Dec 2012 #24
according to jefferson, his nailery alone provided "completely for the maintenance" of his family. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #30
Sick systems make sick people Recursion Dec 2012 #16
Historical Context.. Ron Obvious Dec 2012 #17
Contemporary standards hedgehog Dec 2012 #19
John Adams was an exceptional man Ron Obvious Dec 2012 #37
Not the only one. Paine wanted to give women the right to vote as well. white_wolf Dec 2012 #38
Paine was another exceptional man... Ron Obvious Dec 2012 #41
Thomas Paine strongly oppossed slavery. white_wolf Dec 2012 #25
Others of his time knew it was wrong. NOLALady Dec 2012 #28
Exactly. That's why I can't buy that defense. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #39
From the Smithsonian Magazine hedgehog Dec 2012 #20
R#10 & K for, wow. n/t UTUSN Dec 2012 #32
John Adams did much of what Jefferson is given credit for melody Dec 2012 #33
Agreed Adams was a good President. He was honest and straight forward while Jefferson was devious. craigmatic Dec 2012 #36
Jefferson was a hypocrit along with most of the founding fathers which is why craigmatic Dec 2012 #34
Yep. Zinn forever changed my view of the revolutionary war Union Scribe Dec 2012 #40
I never read Zinn but it sounds like we agree on alot. The revolution was more of a coup than craigmatic Dec 2012 #42
LBJ slaughtered a million people in Southeast Asia AND passed the Civil Rights Act and... Peace Patriot Dec 2012 #43
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