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TrueBlueinCO

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100. and if Iran behaves badly enough

Reply to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #99)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 04:11 PM

Dec 2012

then Israel will nuke them. Problem solved.

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Clinton: U.N. Palestine Vote ‘Unfortunate And Counterproductive’ [View all] ProSense Nov 2012 OP

It is unfortunate because it is a symptom of the death of the US empire. redgreenandblue Nov 2012 #1

Why tama Dec 2012 #76

I don't find it unfortunate. redgreenandblue Dec 2012 #103

Two reasons that this is considered "unfortunate" MadHound Nov 2012 #2

interestingly this icc thing could be a two edged sword loli phabay Nov 2012 #4

It would be good news either way. redgreenandblue Nov 2012 #5

Same way they'll handle Israel bulldozing Palestinian settlements, MadHound Nov 2012 #7

only if DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #10

I've been wondering the exact same thing. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #16

Israel doesn't recognize the ICC leftynyc Nov 2012 #21

Yeah. bunnies Nov 2012 #54

Don't dead Israeli babies count? leftynyc Nov 2012 #56

Dont change the subject. bunnies Nov 2012 #63

If more dead bodies made one side more right, leftynyc Nov 2012 #68

Is that what I said? bunnies Nov 2012 #69

It's a fact with no meaning other leftynyc Nov 2012 #70

It doesn't matter Scootaloo Dec 2012 #82

I think the actual lapdog is the US, not Israel. hifiguy Nov 2012 #59

its unfortunate the rest of the world is going against our wishes quinnox Nov 2012 #3

Why? ceile Nov 2012 #6

No country goes to the ICC unless they want to. former9thward Nov 2012 #73

The ICC is not retroactive Scootaloo Dec 2012 #83

Would Israel let us say anything else? N/T Big Blue Marble Nov 2012 #8

Take yout troubles to Micronesia, Kiddo, they trade their votes for a place to live as byeya Nov 2012 #9

This is the US position because it is true. TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #11

The US and Israel have failed for how many decades now to deal with this situation in an even sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #13

It has been the US position because the Palestinians are not ready for a state TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #15

While Israel can indeed invade, Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #17

That's now, but not if Palestine becomes a state then commits an act of war TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #20

No it cannot. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #22

When facing total annihilation in all out war... TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #23

Do you think Israel and Palestine operate in a vaccum? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #40

I don't think that there is any country in the middle east that can stop Israel TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #44

By 2020 Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #67

Now that's just so ridiculous that it's funny TrueBlueinCO Dec 2012 #95

You're correct... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #99

and if Iran behaves badly enough TrueBlueinCO Dec 2012 #100

If you say so.... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #102

Keep going. I find your views to be... intriguing Scootaloo Dec 2012 #84

Besides, who is going to stop them if the gloves came off? TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #25

Israelis support Apartheid against Arabs cpwm17 Dec 2012 #86

I'm referring to the Palestinian mindset TrueBlueinCO Dec 2012 #97

Also, conquering it is winning it if there is no one to force it to be otherwise. TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #26

So you condone an outlaw nation? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #42

Israel is much less outlaw than the Palestinians. TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #45

Unjust laws? bunnies Nov 2012 #46

Such as requiring Israel to give up land that is TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #51

They have a military, nukes and unlimited US support. bunnies Nov 2012 #58

When there is no place left whatsoever for hifiguy Nov 2012 #60

exactly. nt bunnies Nov 2012 #64

Perhaps Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #62

So what you are basically saying is that the Palestinians are inferior 'not ready for a state' sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #49

The Palestinians will be ready TrueBlueinCO Nov 2012 #52

That might work Agony Dec 2012 #104

The Israelis are already there, TrueBlueinCO Dec 2012 #105

Why such a lopsided view? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #18

In what way has Russia supported the Palestinians? And maybe China finally had it just like sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #57

And who would you suggest? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #65

Maybe Norway or Iceland eg. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #74

When the US Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #91

yeah, China's "had it". It's a moral position. Ever hear of Tibet? cali Nov 2012 #71

Ever hear of Iraq, Afghanistan, Mai Lai, etc. etc. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #72

yes, dearie- and I bring that up frequently- as you very well know. cali Dec 2012 #87

Lol, no, I did not claim they had moral authority, just standing which they are using. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #89

Why, of course, we respect majority rule...except when they vote against us. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #12

The notion behind it seems to involve Pakistan using the International Criminal Court Lucinda Nov 2012 #14

But who can blame them? bunnies Nov 2012 #32

I think statehood is the right thing to do and is long overdue. Even the SOS, Lucinda Nov 2012 #43

It seems bizarre to me that if we support a two "state" solution... bunnies Nov 2012 #48

If statehood was a goal of the US, they apparently have fooled the rest of the world. The world sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #53

Clinton is unfortunate LittleBlue Nov 2012 #19

What utter bullshit leftynyc Nov 2012 #24

Don't think I let him off the hook LittleBlue Nov 2012 #30

Party responsible for what? leftynyc Nov 2012 #55

based on this knee-jerk response Enrique Nov 2012 #28

Geffen was a family friend and huge Clinton backer LittleBlue Nov 2012 #31

obviously a lot of people don't like Hillary Enrique Nov 2012 #33

When I voted for Obama in 2008 LittleBlue Nov 2012 #39

are you talking about David Geffen? Enrique Nov 2012 #50

We elected Democrats in 2008 remember? That was after eight horrible years of US Policy sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #61

Regarding your last comment, Beacool Dec 2012 #78

I and most of the civilized world were sickened by that brutal war crime. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #88

You are aggrandizing a person that does not deserve it. Beacool Dec 2012 #93

Lol, what I posted were facts about his place in Africa. I fyi, was always opposed to sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #96

And Geffen was wrong, as proven by her tenure at State. Beacool Dec 2012 #94

And take the President with you. white_wolf Nov 2012 #41

Are you serious? Beacool Dec 2012 #77

and clinton should get the Nobel Peace Prize? Whisp Nov 2012 #27

you do realize, Obama made this decision Enrique Nov 2012 #35

yes, I do. Whisp Nov 2012 #47

Oh, I see. Beacool Dec 2012 #79

She has done quite a lot actually. Lucinda Nov 2012 #36

And she would deserve it far more than Obama who got it just for being elected. Beacool Dec 2012 #80

Comments and an illustrative video at this link: Fire Walk With Me Nov 2012 #29

Clinton's vote to support Bush's wars were "unfortunate and counterproductive." Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #34

Kosovo Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #37

Its not nearly as counterproductive as Israel building more illegal settlements. bunnies Nov 2012 #38

It's not like the status quo has worked so well The Traveler Nov 2012 #66

those who make the two-state solution impossible are making the single state solution inevitable Douglas Carpenter Dec 2012 #75

I agree with the position of the Obama administration. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #81

There is no "disputed territory," JD Scootaloo Dec 2012 #85

In theory you're right, but in practice isn't that sorta naive? TeamsterDem Dec 2012 #90

An unfortunate capstone on her approach to the ME. Sums it up. Counterproductive. leveymg Dec 2012 #92

Grumpy: Clinton's pro-Israel bias "unfortunate and counterproductive." Comrade Grumpy Dec 2012 #98

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