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quaker bill

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19. with what do they buy it?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:22 AM
Dec 2012

Where does the Fed get its notional money? (They pretty much just click it into existence). They are not only "buying" government debt, they are "buying" private debt, specifically mortgage debt. It is called quantitative easing (QE III) and what it does is increase the supply of money by clicking funds (money) into existence and using this new money to "purchase" debt. The banks lose loan liability and gain cash, that they can, in theory, loan. They aren't loaning it much which is why the program has had little effect, other than keeping interest rates very low for well qualified borrowers.

They are creating computer entries every day, and they have been telling us about it for some time now. This is why the PM market is so inflated, because the traders are expecting the value of the currency to plummet because so much new money has been created. The system is literally awash with new money, and to the extent anyplace isn't, the Fed makes more. The reason that the currency has not devalued is because is that this new money is largely not being circulated. This is actually a bad thing.

If that person thinks a US Treasury Bond is equivalent to an "IOU"..... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #1
those "IOUs" are T-Bills NMDemDist2 Nov 2012 #2
They are not T-bills (which are a specific type of government security) PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #6
"special Treasury bonds" alc Nov 2012 #7
There are a few things that make them 'special'... PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #9
special rated T-BIlls, the best of the best available FogerRox Nov 2012 #12
"Also, social security has NOTHING, ZERO, NADA, ZILCH to do with the deficit." PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #3
That's what *I* said to him LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #5
"To cover the IOUs Govt will have to pull from the general fund in the future." PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #4
actually almost none of this is really true quaker bill Nov 2012 #8
What you refer to is generally known as 'monetizing the debt'... PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #11
with what do they buy it? quaker bill Dec 2012 #19
They've been saying this for 20 years that I know of. Mariana Nov 2012 #10
He said that LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #14
You might ask him why he's speaking in the present tense Mariana Nov 2012 #15
I told him she's not an elected official, and she hasn't held hearings on anything because *she* LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #16
You know, he probably knows all that already. Mariana Nov 2012 #17
Oh, he is ABSOLUTELY the perpetrator, you have NO IDEA...or, rather, you do. LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #18
BWAHAHAHA!! I "shared" his post, so he couldn't delete it and he wrote, LaydeeBug Nov 2012 #13
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