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Fumesucker

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47. I didn't say that, but there are others who implied that and will not post on this thread
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 06:33 AM
Dec 2012

I notice that the "enthusiastic participation or it's rape" crowd is markedly absent.

Both Cray and I see the woman as a victim, perhaps not a rape victim but a victim nonetheless.


Adultery IMO. NT NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #1
Strong persuader implies that the woman was reluctant. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #2
The man *thinks* he's a strong persuader, maybe he's not all that. NYC_SKP Nov 2012 #5
Eh, as I stated in the OP, I've known men like that, they aren't all that unusual Fumesucker Nov 2012 #19
Making a case ... a.k.a. persuasion Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #24
It's all a matter of perspective Fumesucker Nov 2012 #28
Where do you see badgering and bullying here? Chorophyll Nov 2012 #34
I'm sure you enjoy repeated telemarketing calls after you tell them to stop Fumesucker Dec 2012 #52
so is using salesmanship rape? "baby, i really love you, you're so beautiful..." If so, there's HiPointDem Dec 2012 #44
I didn't say that, but there are others who implied that and will not post on this thread Fumesucker Dec 2012 #47
persuading is not rape Enrique Nov 2012 #3
If you have to persuade someone to do something it doesn't sound like enthusiastic participation Fumesucker Nov 2012 #4
From what I've learned on DU, pretty much any man who can pick out more than 2 chords on Schema Thing Nov 2012 #6
Oh shit. dawg Nov 2012 #8
"f"???? Hell, even I feel my resistance waning... must not let dawgs...aaarrggghhh Schema Thing Nov 2012 #9
Guitarzan? Is that you? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #20
Do you actually know any women? Chorophyll Nov 2012 #36
Your sarcasmometer has exploded again Fumesucker Nov 2012 #42
No. dawg Nov 2012 #7
Sounds like an affair that meant more to her, than to him n/t SoCalDem Nov 2012 #10
Infidelity is the theme of the song abbeyco Nov 2012 #11
Anything less than enthusiastic participation is rape Fumesucker Nov 2012 #12
The song is about a woman talked into cheating abbeyco Nov 2012 #21
This man clearly talked an initially unwilling woman into sex Fumesucker Nov 2012 #22
If you gave in because someone was bugging you... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #25
THIS! redqueen Nov 2012 #23
I saw a standard put forth on DU that turns most if not all seduction into rape Fumesucker Nov 2012 #31
Simply the one word PERSUADER does not imply coersion. redqueen Nov 2012 #39
This was a married woman who lived right next door, on the other side of the thin walls. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #40
I for one am eternally grateful for it. cliffordu Dec 2012 #43
I love it, redqueen is now defending a man for whom a woman is "only another notch on my guitar" Fumesucker Dec 2012 #50
So garden variety seduction is rape now? cliffordu Nov 2012 #13
It's not *my* thesis.. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #14
How about begging? cliffordu Nov 2012 #16
Apparently begging is coercion which equals rape.. Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #26
" Next, just ASKING is going to be attempted rape" opiate69 Nov 2012 #18
Am I the only one who hears some remorse in this song? nolabear Nov 2012 #15
I'm not sure how anyone could not hear remorse in the song Fumesucker Nov 2012 #17
Seriously, Famesucker, why are you doing this? Squinch Nov 2012 #27
I'm not joking about anything. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #29
You are making light of it. Squinch Nov 2012 #30
I've always taken no for an answer Fumesucker Nov 2012 #32
I've heard this song about four million times and I never thought it was about rape... Chorophyll Nov 2012 #33
I'm not the one trolling Fumesucker Nov 2012 #38
"Shiny Happy People" is about taking heroin and ecstasy together. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #35
You're cute when you're being sarcastic Fumesucker Nov 2012 #37
Irony I can deal with Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #41
You ask if a Work of Fiction is about a rapist? Email the author. Want to know what it's like to... Melinda Dec 2012 #45
Eh, I was molested as a young teen Fumesucker Dec 2012 #48
Eh? Melinda Dec 2012 #55
As I said elsewhere, I told no one of what happened to me until I was well into my forties Fumesucker Dec 2012 #57
Okay this is really a stupid OP Tsiyu Dec 2012 #46
I've been a victim of a sexual predator myself Fumesucker Dec 2012 #49
Sorry, your OP is still stupid Tsiyu Dec 2012 #51
I think it would be anal rape, yes Fumesucker Dec 2012 #53
Oh, don't change your tune now Tsiyu Dec 2012 #54
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional Fumesucker Dec 2012 #56
ahhh no. madrchsod Dec 2012 #58
"Anything less than enthusiastic participation" is not necessarily criminally actionable. nomorenomore08 Dec 2012 #59
I just PM'ed one of the guys in the band who helped WRITE this song - cliffordu Dec 2012 #60
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