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In reply to the discussion: Meet the Predators (men need to learn how to recognize and fight rape culture) [View all]TeamsterDem
(1,173 posts)What seems to be happening is that you're discussing rape, so every man must toe a line and allow you to use whatever means you desire to make your points about that very serious topic. But what you're not realizing is that while you're rightly lambasting THE OFFENDERS who behave in those ways, you're saying the word "men" without qualifying first that it's "some men" about which you're speaking. That is the definition of stereotyping, labeling a group based on the actions of some of its parts. Women have for years rightfully fought against this sort of thing, but now when a few of that group's members start engaging in the very same behavior they inexplicably find support for the very attitudes they used to fight against; that you can't even muster between the lot of you the integrity to say "you're right, it's not all men" speaks untold volumes about your true aims which evidently are to merely remove any verbal/physical abuse from your realms but not for others. It's hypocritical and calls into question just how progressive any of you in this thread truly are.
There are many refined men who don't think or act in any way close to what's been portrayed here, and we typically don't want to be aligned with the scum who unfortunately share a gender with us. They're not "ours" to defend, just as not all women must defend every other woman out of reflex. That you seem to think it's okay to stereotype us because rape is worse says a whole lot about you, none of it positive. I don't owe any of you an apology or a defense of the behaviors described herein because of course I'm not the guy who did those things. Moreover, as a fellow human being I deserve better than having you label me as somehow a cohort of a rapist. Yes, women deserve much, much better than a rape or the countless instances of discrimination they face, but I'm not the one doing any of those things, so I don't think it's entirely fair to say "men" when what you mean is "that man" or "those men."
If any of you folks would be thrilled at the idea of anyone labeling you in the same group as the lowest criminal form, then perhaps you need a head examination. But for the rest of you, please drop the charade that it's okay to stereotype some other group because it isn't. Many men stand with women in their struggles, I think we deserve the same in return, not to be lumped in as rapist cohorts.