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Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
135. So you want to send a message that harrassing disabled people is OK?
Wed Nov 28, 2012, 02:55 PM
Nov 2012

Because that is exactly what the folks defending him in this thread are doing, even though they don't intend it.

Ohio man gets jail for mocking disabled girl [View all] The Straight Story Nov 2012 OP
Really? Am I the only one who thinks this is ridiculous? TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #1
Nope. unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #3
First Amendment rights to terrorize and humiliate a girl???? rustydog Nov 2012 #10
There is no law against bullying. unreadierLizard Nov 2012 #12
There is NO constitutional right to harass rustydog Nov 2012 #17
there is a right to free expression, however. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #26
Agreed...it's not like he stalked her...the guy's an ass but jail time joeybee12 Nov 2012 #31
however, disorderly conduct is against the law frylock Nov 2012 #63
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #93
i'm more into long-term, and i don't see you lasting here through the year frylock Nov 2012 #117
You can shorten that time-frame. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #130
i'm positively crestfallen! frylock Nov 2012 #158
I can see disappointment writ large across your face. Ikonoklast Nov 2012 #181
Yes, if it was found to have risen to the level of disorderly conduct treestar Nov 2012 #178
Then every person who ever approached me on the street TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #33
Are you a ten-year old girl Aerows Nov 2012 #140
I made that comment before I knew all of the aggravating circumstances TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #143
I'd blame my lack of knowledge on the headlines instead of not reading the story too. LanternWaste Nov 2012 #175
Come on Aerows Nov 2012 #186
Fair enough :) Aerows Nov 2012 #185
These people were all adults, and approached you when you were ten years old? thucythucy Nov 2012 #141
I'm not sure that mockery, imitation, and teasing-- TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #149
For what it is worth Aerows Nov 2012 #187
Yup--if there's a significant backstory it kind of makes TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #188
You won't be the first one to do it Aerows Nov 2012 #189
We wouldn't have a GOP member walking free! Demeter Nov 2012 #29
There are laws against disorderly conduct and menacing - that's what he plead to. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2012 #43
OK, if that is the law or statute, then I can see how they can TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #45
This post changed my mind. Prism Nov 2012 #57
what part of disorderly conduct and aggravated menacing are you not getting? frylock Nov 2012 #62
Bullying is abuse. Period. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #133
I don't think he terrorized her, he just mocked her gollygee Nov 2012 #18
Our Jails are all ready packed full Drale Nov 2012 #27
"He should be forced to work with disabled youth..." thucythucy Nov 2012 #159
If the goal of speech has to meet with approval of others, then it isn't free. JVS Nov 2012 #129
Not sure how this applies to the situation under discussion. thucythucy Nov 2012 #170
I think this should have been a civil matter AldoLeopold Nov 2012 #156
Do me a favor pretend this girl is a lesbian Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #24
mocking isn't illegal. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #28
Go read the statute in post #43 before you spout off and make silly declarative statements. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2012 #77
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #87
brilliant retort.. frylock Nov 2012 #91
oh, you... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #100
Oh yeah, I forgot about the ... Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2012 #104
if we don't use those rights, we're going to lose them. frylock Nov 2012 #115
Freeedom!!!!!! Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2012 #131
Child abuse is illegal. And this kind of bullying qualified as child abuse. n/t backscatter712 Nov 2012 #136
Really? AlexSatan Nov 2012 #180
So I assume that applies to mocking religious people as well AlexSatan Nov 2012 #37
Not sure what your point is. thucythucy Nov 2012 #173
I didn't say anything about threatening AlexSatan Nov 2012 #179
As a society, we make choices for each other all the time. thucythucy Nov 2012 #190
OK, I have determined AlexSatan Nov 2012 #192
Going off on something of a tangent, aren't we? thucythucy Nov 2012 #193
If you think rights are defined by what you approve cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #47
the same applies to laws and statutes.. frylock Nov 2012 #94
FFS cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #132
yeh well in this case it appears that it does.. frylock Nov 2012 #160
What does being a lesbian have to do with anything? obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #85
It was used as an example cause theres alot of support for antigay bullying laws Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #167
I agree. A more suitable punishment would be a few days in the stocks with kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #64
i think a good old fashion ass kicking would be more appropriate frylock Nov 2012 #96
I think it's inappropriate. As much as it makes my blood boil Butterbean Nov 2012 #5
This shouldn't be a crime at all. I didn't see the video, but TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #7
"... Bailey threatened to choke her with a chain ..." struggle4progress Nov 2012 #54
OK. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #58
derp frylock Nov 2012 #65
Um...not really sure what your problem is. Seems personal. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #66
nothing personal. if you look through the thread, i'm engaging all the morans here frylock Nov 2012 #101
Oh, I see. It is personal. You are calling me a moron. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #103
There's where he crossed the line. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #97
Yes, the threat takes the nuance out of it. DirkGently Nov 2012 #98
it appears that he threatened the mom frylock Nov 2012 #118
Fuzzy grammar. Should be the mom, IF the antecedent is right. DirkGently Nov 2012 #147
agreed frylock Nov 2012 #161
Thank you for bringing the facts, yet again. nt msanthrope Nov 2012 #111
No, you aren't the only one. Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #55
yes, you are frylock Nov 2012 #60
If you bother to read TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #61
I also think a month in jail is uncalled for. Quantess Nov 2012 #80
He's an odious human being, which would make it easy TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #82
Will sitting in jail give him any insights? No. Quantess Nov 2012 #83
he threatened to choke the mom with a chain ffs! frylock Nov 2012 #107
When someone threatens another person, Quantess Nov 2012 #110
He won't serve a month--probably a week or two. But the sentence will be more aggravating msanthrope Nov 2012 #116
yeh, well dude plead no contest, so your beef is with him frylock Nov 2012 #119
I'd say the prosecutor and the judge found that the situation was pretty serious. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #144
Yes, but then only if the media has accurately reported the story treestar Nov 2012 #176
This Bailey fellow looks to be a serious Bully Burma Jones Nov 2012 #2
Lacking a deity to "strike him lame" I guess this will have to do CBGLuthier Nov 2012 #4
If you knew which jail he was held in, you could pay someone on the inside... backscatter712 Nov 2012 #145
You do have to wonder how many beatings he will take if CBGLuthier Nov 2012 #153
They're gonna have to keep him in solitary. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #157
Community service would have been a proper sentence. Quantess Nov 2012 #6
Community service for WHAT? Being a jerk? TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #9
Okay, you have a point... Quantess Nov 2012 #44
Post #43 above shows how it could be construed as disorderly TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #46
You're a patron of bars that serve ten year olds? thucythucy Nov 2012 #152
My own personal fantasy of what the judge was thinking CBGLuthier Nov 2012 #142
He's been convicted of a crime, so it's a safe bet that he committed a crime. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #68
Wow, take it easy. Nowhere am I defending bullying and TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #76
He was making threats on top of the mocking. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #146
Here's the video of the "man" and his son, mockingly walking like the little girl: Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #8
Jumpin' Jesus, this is a full grown "ADULT" male publicly mocking rustydog Nov 2012 #14
"You are defending his actions?" Are you talking to me? Of course not! WTF? nt Poll_Blind Nov 2012 #20
Is mockery against the law now? Wouldn't harassment have to be TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #21
He did it all the time johnnie Nov 2012 #52
Right and his son was bullying the girl on the bus as well for months. wickerwoman Nov 2012 #74
Posting the video and pointing out AlexSatan Nov 2012 #40
There is no such thing Sgent Nov 2012 #184
Never mind jail, or community service... truebrit71 Nov 2012 #11
Disgusting, but this should be protected free expression nevertheless Silent3 Nov 2012 #13
You do NOT have 1st amendment rights to Harass another human being! rustydog Nov 2012 #15
I'm not sure if it qualifies as harassment gollygee Nov 2012 #22
So those pictures and people calling Bush a chimp AlexSatan Nov 2012 #42
there's a guy in jail for making a veiled reference to a "burning bush" frylock Nov 2012 #108
Mocking is not the same as threatening AlexSatan Nov 2012 #124
so is threatening to choke somebody with a chain not threatening anymore? frylock Nov 2012 #126
Nope, that is a threat--and what he went to jail for AlexSatan Nov 2012 #137
Did that upset you? Son of Gob Nov 2012 #182
WTF? AlexSatan Nov 2012 #191
Let's see, you just signed up Son of Gob Nov 2012 #194
Apparently it doesn't take a genius to make a bunch of wrong assumptions AlexSatan Nov 2012 #195
What's the play on words? I don't get it. Son of Gob Nov 2012 #196
I'm curious as to how this even resulted in an arrest. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #16
We're in new territory. A lot of people will be the first to get locked up ecstatic Nov 2012 #35
I'm sorry, but I don't want to see people arrested for bogus TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #38
what is this country coming to when you can't threaten to choke someone with a chain.. frylock Nov 2012 #123
Just in case you think I was defending ecstatic Nov 2012 #139
Watch the video... trumad Nov 2012 #19
Exactly zabet Nov 2012 #41
He threatened to choke her. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #102
He threatened to choke her? gollygee Nov 2012 #106
Physical threats are different. That really happened? Silent3 Nov 2012 #148
The video only captured a small part of what this man did. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #150
So you want to send a message that harrassing disabled people is OK? Odin2005 Nov 2012 #135
wow. that is messed up. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #23
Good thing you are wrong. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2012 #30
no, i'm not. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #32
It IS illegal. That's why he was arrested, tried, and convicted. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #71
Disorderly conduct is a fair charge Red Mountain Nov 2012 #25
he says he was just protecting his son Enrique Nov 2012 #34
From WHAT? gollygee Nov 2012 #36
not from second hand smoke.. frylock Nov 2012 #162
What is that tattoo? Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #164
I was thinking Mensa Enrique Nov 2012 #165
lololol Starry Messenger Nov 2012 #166
now that the girl is a public figure- doesn't that let the dad off the hook...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #39
you can't possibly be this fucking dense.. frylock Nov 2012 #69
dropped you on the head one time to many...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #90
The girl is a private citizen. Merely being a victim of a crime does not make you kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #72
she's a public figure now. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #89
fucking troll frylock Nov 2012 #120
If I was on your jury for this post, I'd vote to leave it! backscatter712 Nov 2012 #127
2917.11 Disorderly conduct. struggle4progress Nov 2012 #48
His actions appear to fall well within the charge of Disorderly Contact as written. LanternWaste Nov 2012 #51
Yeah, I expect that if I had a ten year old daughter with cerebral palsy, and if an adult struggle4progress Nov 2012 #56
It wouldn't need to even be a young girl related to me Aerows Nov 2012 #138
in a police state- they can always find a reason to lock someone up. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #59
okay, maybe you are that fucking dense.. frylock Nov 2012 #79
it's amazing how many people actually enjoy living in a police state. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #86
he threatened to choke the mom, genuis.. frylock Nov 2012 #125
Especially when one is in violation of written law LanternWaste Nov 2012 #92
sigh... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #105
I imagine we often think people with different opinions are somewhat less LanternWaste Nov 2012 #128
I can see it fitting under that gollygee Nov 2012 #84
Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2012 #172
I'm not sure what the problem is. okwmember Nov 2012 #49
Seeing that his actions included death threats on top of child abuse, I'd say he got off light. n/t backscatter712 Nov 2012 #151
Some explanations from Mr Bailey: struggle4progress Nov 2012 #50
Oh my god what a knob. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2012 #78
I ruptured a disk in my lower back and didn't walk like that NickB79 Nov 2012 #122
Guy needs to get his story straight. Mariana Nov 2012 #168
It would have been far better to give him community service to help the disabled still_one Nov 2012 #53
No. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2012 #70
I wouldn't let this freak within a mile of any disabled person. kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #73
You can't teach a psychopath empathy. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #154
Ok I got the message still_one Nov 2012 #177
Just building that bad Karma, aren't you burnsei sensei Nov 2012 #67
Stupid sentence - jails/prisons are overcrowded as it is, a much better Smilo Nov 2012 #75
Animal abusers shouldn't work at a rescue for CS obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #95
Good get the red out Nov 2012 #81
This was done to a minor and it was systematic obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #88
I posted the video of the 'mocking', thought it was awful but jail? Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #99
Repeatedly, day-after-day, combined with threats. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #113
oh ok. Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #174
...saying that Bailey threatened to choke her with a chain. frylock Nov 2012 #109
also overlooked in this constitutional herp derp is that he plead NO CONTEST! frylock Nov 2012 #112
I don't see much of a constitutional crisis here. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #155
try explaining that to some of the constitutional scholars in this thread frylock Nov 2012 #163
I really enjoyed how you dealt with some of the brainiacs in this thread. Son of Gob Nov 2012 #183
Mean people suck slackmaster Nov 2012 #114
Good! What an ass! Odin2005 Nov 2012 #121
Asshat. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #134
I have no problem with it at all in this case. forestpath Nov 2012 #169
he doesn't need jailtime blueknight Nov 2012 #171
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