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In reply to the discussion: Would a progressive third Party help the Democrats more than the Republicans? [View all]coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)61. Um, 1 in 5 American children currently lives in poverty. Still think the Dems are looking
out for 'your' interests? Yikes.
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Would a progressive third Party help the Democrats more than the Republicans? [View all]
kentuck
Nov 2012
OP
Yes, of course. Votes for Bush in 2000 caused Al Gore to not be seated.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#151
Fuck third parties. Look what happened when the Repukes allowed the Teanutters to take over.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#2
Extreme Republicans. I despise extremists and zealots, no matter what their political stripe.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#8
Before Pres. Obama, I didn't think I could despise "SOME" liberals as much as I do. But it is.....
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#13
Is it even remotely possible, in your mind, for the Democratic Party to change in such a way...?
kentuck
Nov 2012
#20
I don't think nuttery should be encouraged. We're all living with the effects of that.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#46
Tell it to Jill Stein, or as I like to call her Ms. 0.03%. Your insults are as ineffective as a....
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#134
I don't think the Republican Party is in any danger of becoming "obsolete"
Art_from_Ark
Dec 2012
#147
Hey dion! You wanna fight? At least you're not showing me scary pics today.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#116
currently we have the xtreme right wing repubs, center-right dems. might be room for liberals nt
msongs
Nov 2012
#3
I think third and fourth parties are more likely and more likely to be helpful
Blasphemer
Nov 2012
#9
Another excellent point. In all honesty, I think today's Green Party is a front organization for...
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#17
What we need is reform of the system so that non-corporate voices can run and be heard.
woo me with science
Nov 2012
#19
in unusual circumstances like in the state of Vermont or the city of San Francisco where the
Douglas Carpenter
Nov 2012
#22
2000. Ralph Nader directly caused Al Gore to not be seated. NEW HAMPSHIRE NH NH
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#27
The lesson I derived from 2000 is that our votes really don't matter, as the SCOTUS
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#59
I note now four other people have agreed that Nader directly caused Gore to not be seated.
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#76
no, the first step comes before the final step. You'all keep missing that thingydingy. Without Nader
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#87
except that Tennessee is hard red state, while NH loves the environment, Gores #1 issue
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#115
It is a fact that a major progressive third Party would cause the election of a Republican President
Douglas Carpenter
Nov 2012
#35
if we are talking about a right-wing populist candidate - of course that would benefit the Democrats
Douglas Carpenter
Nov 2012
#51
The SCOTUS stopped the ballots from being counted. Had they been counted, Gore
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#60
because YOU are looking after the election itself. A month later. Nader won it for Bush in NH
graham4anything
Nov 2012
#66
Nader received 97,488 in Florida in 2000.According to the official Bush tally they won by 537 votes
Douglas Carpenter
Nov 2012
#69
Gore received more votes in Florida than did Bush, even when Nader is
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#92
that's besides the point. The Leftist Parties in fascist controlled Europe were executed, jailed
Douglas Carpenter
Nov 2012
#41
Um, 1 in 5 American children currently lives in poverty. Still think the Dems are looking
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#61
1 out of 5 children living in poverty is a "red herring"? OK, if you say so. - n/t
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#89
Actually, channeling my inner rat-fucking Karl Rove, I might just do that. It would
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#62
I think this simple fact escapes many of us. They are openly trying to co-opt Skinner's brainchild.
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2012
#117
Um Gore actually received more Florida votes than Bush, but the SCOTUS refused to
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#64
That would have been a moot point if Nader hadn't drained away another 95,000 votes.
pnwmom
Nov 2012
#97
That assumes that the people who voted for Nader would still have bothered to vote and
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#98
I would love if there was a Social-Democratic Party that could vie for power. But here in America
Douglas Carpenter
Nov 2012
#52
At which point, if they want to ever win anything again they will have to recapture the left.
TheKentuckian
Nov 2012
#80
Branding. Anyone voting TeaPubliKlan currently is not going to vote Democrat
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#140
So be it. Against my council but the movers and shakers will do what they will
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#145
I am a Moderate. But I am ok with Progressives holding office, even at higher levels than
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#122
Ask the Israelis. Coalition building w/ multiple parties allows the Ultra-Orthodox ....
Hekate
Nov 2012
#54
I find it amazing that you call yourself one of the most Progressive on DU, yet you don't see that
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#123
I also proposed removing the 435 seat size limit on the U.S. House, which would correct the problem
Ken Burch
Nov 2012
#126
Because it's much harder to unseat an incumbent, especially when they're fighting
jeff47
Nov 2012
#107
There often is a lot wrong with the democrat's message, but at some point people make
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#127
Nader took 97,000 votes in FL. If Gore got 1% of those, he would have been President.
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#124
Seems to me that influencing through "intra-party" would have more results than the entire US
libdem4life
Nov 2012
#100
Yes, in that it would cause the Democratic party to replace the Republican party.
jeff47
Nov 2012
#105
The problem is that the Third Parties are so far Left or far right that they don't appeal to
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#131
"Centrists" really would prefer it if we would just "go with the flow" and allow the
Romulox
Nov 2012
#110
Kentuck, I have a question for you and others from the far Left. You have to look back to answer.
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#128
I'm not really sure how post politics Gore can be counted as one and the same as the guy in the frey
TheKentuckian
Dec 2012
#141
Curiousity question for those who claim Nader caused Gore to lose......
socialist_n_TN
Dec 2012
#143
Or, the Democratic Party could move left and negate the need for a third party.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#144
A shiny dishonest distraction. Doesn't fundamentally change the system. Just a power grab
patrice
Dec 2012
#152