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17. Are you a Fair Tax advocate? nt

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Tue Nov 27, 2012, 05:27 PM

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I am of the opinion that we should tear it down and start all over... [View all] kentuck Nov 2012 OP

You're probably right, except it is something that would be best done in 2014 Not Me Nov 2012 #1

Yup. We are being propagandized to be grateful for crumbs, woo me with science Nov 2012 #2

They don't even hide it anymore.. SomethingFishy Nov 2012 #33

The only problem is it would be the rich people who wrote the new rules. nt Speck Tater Nov 2012 #3

Including the ones in congress bighart Nov 2012 #45

I can support that, but I'm NOT a Fair Tax -er. I like something like a VAT, since it addresses the patrice Nov 2012 #4

VAT is Hella Regressive AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #37

IMO it's not the tax system, although it needs revision, but the spending system that needs overhaul jody Nov 2012 #5

Big myth. Actually you can taught_me_patience Nov 2012 #28

You forgot the growing interest paid on that debt which was $359,796,008,919.49 in 2012. Those jody Nov 2012 #35

Except 30% of the interest is paid to the government itself, the majority to Social Security. Sirveri Nov 2012 #39

Debt is a nightmare since interest and principal can only be paid from taxes at the expense of jody Nov 2012 #41

Not me ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #6

I think Obama's pledge about the $250K limit on taxation should go the same way as Grover Norquist kentuck Nov 2012 #7

Giving up a Strategic ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #14

Taxcuts for 98%? Why not taxcuts for everyone? kentuck Nov 2012 #15

So, you're a Libertarian, pardon me, on edit: make that "Libertarian". nt patrice Nov 2012 #19

I guess I really needed this? kentuck Nov 2012 #20

LOL. Keep the Gubermint out of my medicare! Freedumb! FSogol Nov 2012 #24

Well, actually, I am part Libertarian myself. Just trying to be honest about what that means & patrice Nov 2012 #25

Which part? demwing Nov 2012 #38

Both. I have a passion for authentic Freedom & I know the most fulsome path to that is the patrice Nov 2012 #42

Are you a Fair Tax advocate? nt patrice Nov 2012 #17

I need to understand better what people who think "that we should tear it down and start patrice Nov 2012 #8

The truly needy that you are talking about do not pay income taxes. kentuck Nov 2012 #9

But they WILL be affected by fundamental changes that affect those who do. patrice Nov 2012 #16

And I am trying to understand what you are saying? kentuck Nov 2012 #18

One thing that happens to them is that they are undercut by people who assume that nothing patrice Nov 2012 #23

"no pain without gain" easy to say when it's others' pain. Tell us how a nearly complete and lengthy patrice Nov 2012 #26

There is a safety net ... kentuck Nov 2012 #29

What safety net without taxes? What do you think tearing the tax system down & patrice Nov 2012 #30

And your point is?? kentuck Nov 2012 #32

And "tearing it all down" isn't panic??? wow. Project much? Are you employed? Have an income? ... patrice Nov 2012 #43

So, you're a Fair Tax -er, right? You'd have to "tear it all down & start over" to get that. nt patrice Nov 2012 #31

Isn't the concern ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #36

It all depends upon what we get out of the deal. I'm prepared to BUY the RIGHT kind of change . . . patrice Nov 2012 #47

A basic standard of living and the right to that needs to be established libtodeath Nov 2012 #10

The Democratic Party used to uphold this value. woo me with science Nov 2012 #11

FDRs economic bill of rights should be the core of the Democratic party platform. libtodeath Nov 2012 #13

With the understanding... kentuck Nov 2012 #12

While you are preparing that right, please prepare the right of the state to demand certain things jody Nov 2012 #21

No more than 5 pages long and I'm on board former-republican Nov 2012 #22

Why stop there? NoOneMan Nov 2012 #27

It all stops making sense when they cross the beltway. They need to move the meetings on this to Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #34

Not going to work. IDoMath Nov 2012 #40

+! patrice Nov 2012 #44

Also make sure AMT is not involved. Panasonic Nov 2012 #46