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You are 100% correct Generic Other Nov 2012 #1
Actually the poster is mostly incorrect ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #25
That's like saying, "Without NASA, Velcro would never have been invented". Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #40
Most of the modern tech we have today came from military related research is indisputable ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #49
What I'm hearing you say is the military commendeered ingenuity. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #52
They also fund a tremendous amount of basic research ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #61
You might wanna find out where this "Internet" thing came from. jeff47 Nov 2012 #92
Am aware of where the infancy of the Internet started. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #102
Nice to know $200 billion is minimal. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #105
Of their entire budget. Yeah. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #109
So still haven't absorbed all those examples of military tech we use every day? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #111
Would people stop using Velcro as an example OnlinePoker Nov 2012 #60
Good call...note that I did not bring it to the discussion ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #62
How about...gross overspending on the military has wrecked the economy.n/t godai Nov 2012 #103
And why is it that if they are so good at innovation and invention they never managed Generic Other Nov 2012 #117
Innovation is never self sustaining ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #120
Not really. Coyotl Nov 2012 #57
I am a frugal shopper, so some of that stuff is going back Generic Other Nov 2012 #118
This was done to us on purpose. The PTB decided that the US working class was too uppity. Romulox Nov 2012 #2
Free trade salinen Nov 2012 #4
All of a piece. Detroit was sacrificed to the East, for example, for military basing rights... Romulox Nov 2012 #5
No, that's first former-republican Nov 2012 #6
How do you stuff that free trade genie back in the bottle? LeftInTX Nov 2012 #12
How about Free Trade "virus"? Taverner Nov 2012 #18
I dunno... catch the spit. Nov 2012 #29
I think it is easy. rwsanders Nov 2012 #42
This is the Reason liberalmike27 Nov 2012 #56
It's not a genie, it's just that have been trying to blow smoke up our ass nolabels Nov 2012 #107
How many of those in Congress and in the White House are, directly or indirectly, stockholders in AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #3
"Thank you for your service." earthside Nov 2012 #7
Thanks for being cannon fodder JEB Nov 2012 #14
I hate hearing that phrase... Bigmack Nov 2012 #22
Then surely you must have turned down all of your benefits right? great white snark Nov 2012 #54
I read Bigmack's post twice ... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #67
Fuck you very much.... Bigmack Nov 2012 #89
So, other than that, tell us what you really think! LOL!!.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #95
I love Smedley Butler RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #64
How come no one ever thanked a draft dodger for their sevice for their country? bahrbearian Nov 2012 #32
Actually, I know one Viet Nam vet who *has* thanked draft dodgers for the very reason you state. ieoeja Nov 2012 #80
The idea is to create a middle class primarily composed of the military.. rwsanders Nov 2012 #46
How does that work... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #98
Well let's see... rwsanders Dec 2012 #121
"All other theft is minor by comparison." FailureToCommunicate Nov 2012 #8
Well said. unhappycamper Nov 2012 #9
The Military-Industrial Complex to be more exact. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #10
It's not the military. It's the corporations run by the Daddy Warbucks that have ruined the country. Texin Nov 2012 #11
Yep. Take a look at who is in PNAC. nt patrice Nov 2012 #31
Contrarian view: Keynes once famously said it was preferable to have citizens dig holes coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #13
The problem with this is we have allotted to much to Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #20
On that, I think most of us can agree. I wanted to be sure that people understand coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #23
Agreed. nt Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #36
IT is NOT and never has been that binary choice. bvar22 Nov 2012 #34
Pretty sure you and I agree. See my reply #23 upthread - n/t coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #37
Yep. Erect bogeyman. Wave flag. Demand more money. Works every time. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #15
I blame the Germans. They started it all by bombing Pearl Harbor. slackmaster Nov 2012 #16
"Nothing is over until WE say it is!" nt stevenleser Nov 2012 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author stevenleser Nov 2012 #81
Agree. 100. Percent. Taverner Nov 2012 #17
If you're a draftee, I am 100% behind your getting all the benefits and medical care you need. byeya Nov 2012 #19
I don't like this arguement. OnlinePoker Nov 2012 #97
Includes the ultimate betrayal Botique Wars to justify MIC. Like the one Repubs want in Libya. patrice Nov 2012 #21
Exactly as we were warned it would happen... 99Forever Nov 2012 #24
The military didn't do anything. WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #26
Politicians and civilian officials ("thinking cowards") DinahMoeHum Nov 2012 #58
The military costs precisely as much or as little as our elected representatives allow. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #27
Bingo. We elected the people who decide how much gets spent on the military. slackmaster Nov 2012 #30
And how do these politicians come to this conclusion? The military tells them. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #41
Then we need politicians with more backbone slackmaster Nov 2012 #50
Or maybe we need more honest military leaders. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #53
The Commander in Chief of the military also happens to be a person that we elected slackmaster Nov 2012 #65
He needs to be held to account also. Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #70
I agree. It's time to disband the US Military BanTheGOP Nov 2012 #28
I don't think that will work, but we should consider offering a parallel Dept of Peace with all of patrice Nov 2012 #33
Great plan... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #100
sounds like a good plan biohazard9550 Nov 2012 #73
Hmmm Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #99
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #115
agreed G_j Nov 2012 #35
Every gun that is made,... bvar22 Nov 2012 #38
Cutting the military's money supply is the last taboo in politics. But the adults must do it. ancianita Nov 2012 #39
Our Military now has great construction skills. KoKo Nov 2012 #45
Who is the "we"? The private sector miltary contractors or the actual troops? I know that ancianita Nov 2012 #116
Our Tax Dollars payed for the Contractors...Let them train our Military KoKo Nov 2012 #119
Time to make a propaganda film showing the US being "attacked". Arctic Dave Nov 2012 #43
If you own or work in an establishment that has food on the premises-- eridani Nov 2012 #63
could not agree more jeanlibny594283 Nov 2012 #68
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #93
K&R ReRe Nov 2012 #44
Good post, salinen. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #47
Thanks salinen Nov 2012 #83
The retired militarys are no fun to live with either. Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #84
Before WW II we made a lot more stuff RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #48
Hardly zipplewrath Nov 2012 #51
I would put law school behind med school for sure. white_wolf Nov 2012 #66
Replacement for the MBA zipplewrath Nov 2012 #71
Interesting. I never thought of the replacement MBA angle. white_wolf Nov 2012 #72
Saw a stat once zipplewrath Nov 2012 #75
True. I also believe that's why it's so hard to get real news out. Cleita Nov 2012 #55
I'm sorry but I could fill a small gym Separation Nov 2012 #59
Well salinen Nov 2012 #86
Absolutely not Separation Nov 2012 #90
WW2 salinen Nov 2012 #96
the military is treated as sacred in this country quinnox Nov 2012 #69
Good one. Most people who believe in peace and justice should agree. byeya Nov 2012 #77
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2012 #74
agreed, 100 percent.... mike_c Nov 2012 #76
No, its the Military-Industrial Complex; elleng Nov 2012 #78
Sadly Ellen... 99Forever Nov 2012 #82
Yes but I want to make the point that there is nothing inherently wrong with the military elleng Nov 2012 #85
While there MAY be... 99Forever Nov 2012 #87
It's the third rail of politics. alarimer Nov 2012 #88
So many errors.... jeff47 Nov 2012 #91
The entire military budget salinen Nov 2012 #106
I provided the link. The rental on those bases is in there. jeff47 Nov 2012 #108
There really is no reason salinen Nov 2012 #110
Except we don't agree jeff47 Nov 2012 #112
KBR salinen Nov 2012 #113
:eyeroll: jeff47 Nov 2012 #114
it would be virtually impossible for another country to invade and hold the u.s. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #94
Important difference... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #101
an agressive invasion of the u.s. would be VERY difficult. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #104
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