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former9thward

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Sun Nov 25, 2012, 03:16 PM

Nov 2012

These studies have absolutely nothing to do with organic vs. non-organic foods and cancer. Almost all of them involve the people who as part of their job use pesticides. Before you make claims you should ave actual studies that back up the particular claim, -- not your interpretation and speculation.

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I just spent $6.94 on a pound and a half of Organic Tomatoes. Honestly it bugged me, then I saw this [View all] trailmonkee Nov 2012 OP

I prefer organic tomatos because I can actually taste them. Incitatus Nov 2012 #1

Not sure about GM crops themselves causing cancer. silverweb Nov 2012 #5

This may be an issue where I should do more research. Incitatus Nov 2012 #7

It can be very hard. silverweb Nov 2012 #18

I saw a documentary and it said that there are certain foods that are more impt to get organic. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #22

If you eat the skin, buy organic. n/t JSK Nov 2012 #42

and dairy obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #81

Exactly. silverweb Nov 2012 #123

They say Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #143

I don't have a citation, but marybourg Nov 2012 #27

I'm not sure if it's true, JoeyT Nov 2012 #39

Except you never want to have any tomato-based product in a can because of the acid in tomatoes. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #118

start w/non-GMO soy and corn, and non-GMO dairy Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #58

Rinsing vegetables cannot rid it of systemic poisons al bupp Nov 2012 #126

The research and evidence is amassing Berlum Nov 2012 #47

We don't know if they cause cancer or not. Zoeisright Nov 2012 #69

Another factor to consider... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #104

Some genetically modified crops are designed to resist insects that would damage them, so pesticides bluestate10 Nov 2012 #155

Organic food almost always tastes better. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #21

Reminds me of a taste test I saw at an organic market... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #52

Their show is called Bullshit for a reason! OhZone Nov 2012 #66

I assume you have never tasted an oragnic/home grown tomato. Incitatus Nov 2012 #152

I bought some organic store tomatoes and they were gross sammytko Nov 2012 #154

Not my area of responsibility... Lightbulb_on Nov 2012 #162

I can't agree with that as a rule. Genetically modified produce is harvested early virtually 100% bluestate10 Nov 2012 #156

My unsupported theory is that taste is directly associated with trace elements and nutrients - hedgehog Nov 2012 #30

This story is fairly recent: CrispyQ Nov 2012 #53

Same here. Fawke Em Nov 2012 #74

Organic tomatoes come from seed that has not been modified and have a pedigree. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #153

nice ad DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #2

I don't like that ad either. Whisp Nov 2012 #4

Organic farmers are seen as cheats and arrogant crooks? Fridays Child Nov 2012 #12

Unfortunately.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #60

so-called "progressives"? And just who the hell are you to make the imperious decision that those cali Nov 2012 #80

I have a right to my opinions just like you BronxBoy Nov 2012 #92

[]=> ... but that doesn't make you right. 6502 Nov 2012 #138

Joel is a great farmer but not an organic purist. I doubt he said this... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #3

Do you live where you could plant a few things for yourself? Fridays Child Nov 2012 #6

Have you checked life expectancy and cancer risk statistics lately? Silent3 Nov 2012 #8

+10 !!! (NT) reACTIONary Nov 2012 #10

the whole reason why we don't have wisechoice Nov 2012 #17

Whether it's the pesticides or not... Silent3 Nov 2012 #33

Two things auburngrad82 Nov 2012 #48

the problem is wisechoice Nov 2012 #88

There was a recent study fasttense Nov 2012 #28

Getting "peace of mind", however, is a lot different... Silent3 Nov 2012 #36

It's definitely NOT about an over abundance of caution. fasttense Nov 2012 #89

It is difficult to study the effects of GMO wisechoice Nov 2012 #71

I addressed those points... Silent3 Nov 2012 #84

agree with Silent3 Avis Nov 2012 #99

Answer is not GMO wisechoice Nov 2012 #102

Best reason to eat organic - It tastes better. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #120

I wouldn't be so sure of real differences in taste in all cases, or their magnitude Silent3 Nov 2012 #124

Banana's aren't tomatoes. GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #131

The point is that what you think something is going to taste like... Silent3 Nov 2012 #132

I realize that. However, GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #133

I never said there were never any differences Silent3 Nov 2012 #144

Supermarket tomatoes are harvested before they have fully vine ripened. In order to have a true bluestate10 Nov 2012 #157

It's a no brainer tama Nov 2012 #148

Quantum! Silent3 Nov 2012 #150

You are talking tama Nov 2012 #161

Who are you to say my imagined perceptions aren't just as real... Silent3 Nov 2012 #163

I'm just your brain fart saying tama Nov 2012 #164

Yes, I guess I'm just not at the right spiritual level... Silent3 Nov 2012 #165

oh yeah, because people who eat organic NEVER get cancer Skittles Nov 2012 #9

It seems the people eating organic have cancer more than people who do not itsrobert Nov 2012 #14

Even if the reverse were true, it wouldn't mean much Major Nikon Nov 2012 #56

That's because many of the 'organic' food companies laundry_queen Nov 2012 #64

people who eat frozen dinners are more likely to snooper2 Nov 2012 #97

Nt blueamy66 Nov 2012 #115

STOP IT SNOOPER2 Skittles Nov 2012 #128

most of my neighbors must eat a lot of frozen dinners then trailmonkee Nov 2012 #141

Your opinion. I don't know one way or another. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #158

that is not a valid argument wisechoice Nov 2012 #68

Except there is scientific evidence of global warming Silent3 Nov 2012 #145

You know, Checking Out The Crowd At Whole Foods ..... YOHABLO Nov 2012 #11

Shop at your local farmer's market. fasttense Nov 2012 #29

A greenhouse is a good investment at those prices. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2012 #82

Plenty of non Yuppies shop there, and Trader Joe's obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #83

I just call it Whole Paycheck Coyotl Nov 2012 #86

Checking out the crowd at Whole Foods womanofthehills Nov 2012 #107

slimmer, healthier, wealthier. Fancy cars in the parking lot, many coming from the nearby yoga shop Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #147

People that shop at Whole Foods and Trader Joe are people that are more into health and fitness, bluestate10 Nov 2012 #159

No worries :) tama Nov 2012 #149

If you live in the Northern Hemisphere, tomatoes are expensive because it's NOVEMBER. LeftyMom Nov 2012 #13

Not too mention all the pollution put into the air to fly 1000s of miles itsrobert Nov 2012 #15

Thanks. Y'all beat me to it. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #37

Nice excuse for pricing food too high... 6502 Nov 2012 #16

It has nothing to do with.. sendero Nov 2012 #23

It has nothing to do with.. sendero Nov 2012 #24

... it has everything to do with it... 6502 Nov 2012 #137

Working people cannot afford a Lexus either.. sendero Nov 2012 #146

Yes, it's tough to compete with the corporations. fasttense Nov 2012 #31

... not an excuse for pretending it is what it ain't. 6502 Nov 2012 #139

I will never buy organic, now I may plant my own, oldbanjo Nov 2012 #19

i don't think eating organic means you'll avoid cancer. people got cancer HiPointDem Nov 2012 #20

But the chances are less wisechoice Nov 2012 #67

Where is your link to that claim? former9thward Nov 2012 #96

first link from google wisechoice Nov 2012 #105

Try again. former9thward Nov 2012 #112

you can only prove a chemical causes cancer wisechoice Nov 2012 #113

and wisechoice Nov 2012 #117

Welcome to DU. I agree with the previous person, and that person is not equating global bluestate10 Nov 2012 #160

I think the instances of cancer has increased over that period NNN0LHI Nov 2012 #142

fuck Joel Salatin. What an elitist asshole. cali Nov 2012 #25

Agreed. Brickbat Nov 2012 #44

Why is he an elitist asshole????? BronxBoy Nov 2012 #59

Silly BronxBoy. Cali said so. That is sufficient. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2012 #95

Yeah I know..... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #98

It's November. Matariki Nov 2012 #26

Bah! Don't confuse facts with fiction... n/t Earth_First Nov 2012 #35

Shop at your local farmer's market either in person or on-line. fasttense Nov 2012 #32

WOW... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #34

I hope you do BronxBoy Caretha Nov 2012 #43

thank you....please link your OP when you are done, thanks trailmonkee Nov 2012 #51

Done.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #61

great OP... I learned a lot..... I hope everybody commenting here reads it.. thanks! trailmonkee Nov 2012 #106

sorry, dear, but I know a great deal about organic farming. I live in cali Nov 2012 #76

So What.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #94

+1 bigtree Nov 2012 #121

There are no GM kale, bananas, bread, or tomatoes on the market mathematic Nov 2012 #38

I thought tomatoes were genetically modified? trailmonkee Nov 2012 #49

While there have been reports of some GMO tomatoes.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #78

If you can fit a pot in your yard, JoeyT Nov 2012 #40

Not for people who live in areas where it is cold. nobodyspecial Nov 2012 #72

Around here, organic and regular are almost the same price sammytko Nov 2012 #41

Question. greytdemocrat Nov 2012 #45

it's labeled.. all I can go off for now trailmonkee Nov 2012 #50

Not really BronxBoy Nov 2012 #54

I understand but... greytdemocrat Nov 2012 #73

In order to achieve USDA or CNG certification.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #101

well, where I live laundry_queen Nov 2012 #65

Both USDA and CNG standards... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #70

That is how it is here too. good. laundry_queen Nov 2012 #75

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For Those Who Are Interested...... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #55

+1 dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #130

Buying organic produce is luxury shopping. MineralMan Nov 2012 #57

Too Many Times BronxBoy Nov 2012 #62

if we invest in R&D for organic farming wisechoice Nov 2012 #77

That investment only makes economic sense... Silent3 Nov 2012 #90

The OP is buying prioduce not in season obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #85

Yes. BronxBoy Nov 2012 #91

Just Curious... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #63

I was thinking that, too obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #87

My wife had a question too... greytdemocrat Nov 2012 #79

I am posting at the top of this for a reason drthais Nov 2012 #93

And in those cases.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #103

k and r niyad Nov 2012 #100

Nice if you can afford the extra money for healthier food. Cleita Nov 2012 #108

You're Spot On...... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #111

Just got back from the store and bought organic tomatoes - 2.98 a lb. REg were 1.98 sammytko Nov 2012 #109

and here is an article about Mexican tomatoes - check out the slide show sammytko Nov 2012 #110

Non-organic tomatoes from Mexico are often 4lbs/$1 by me TheCruces Nov 2012 #134

Ok read your post again - your tomatoes were 4.60 a lb. I didn't pay attention to the fact that you sammytko Nov 2012 #114

regular tomatoes were half that price trailmonkee Nov 2012 #119

Just ate one of my organic tomatoes - blech - same taste as regular store bought - i like homegrown! sammytko Nov 2012 #125

I have tried to grow winter maters.... BronxBoy Nov 2012 #129

It's a great way to get white people to pay double for produce. Throd Nov 2012 #116

Perhaps you should read this... Luminous Animal Nov 2012 #122

white people obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #140

Most Varieties of Tomatoes Won't Grow Here, Even in the Summer AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #127

sometime wonder if organic foods is the liberal version of fox news dembotoz Nov 2012 #135

Fuck Ron Paul! TransitJohn Nov 2012 #136

I know it sounds expensive to you, trailmonkee, 'cause it's all Cha Nov 2012 #151