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In reply to the discussion: The Pilgrims experiment with communal property and socialism ended badly [View all]Submariner
(12,485 posts)2. The Pilgrims were thieves, liars, cannibals and killers
so it should be no surprise that their experiment ended badly.
Thanksgiving: A National Day of Mourning for Indians
http://bermudaradical.wordpress.com/2011/11/24/thanksgiving-a-national-day-of-mourning-for-indians-2/
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The Pilgrims experiment with communal property and socialism ended badly [View all]
True Earthling
Nov 2012
OP
They did it totally wrong. The Shakers did it right, and had complete success...
Moonwalk
Nov 2012
#4
How did the Shakers survive more than one generation with no sex? The rule itself contradicts
bluestate10
Nov 2012
#11
The Dominicans have the same rule and are coming up on their 800th birthday. (nt)
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#17
As do many Buddhist Sanghas and they are approaching their 2,500th birthday. n/t
white_wolf
Nov 2012
#22
Complete success? That explains why we are overrun with Shaker communities today.
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2012
#12
It was such a smashing success that the earth currently boasts upwards of 5 shakers
4th law of robotics
Nov 2012
#40
"Imagine if they hadn't been so selfish and narrow minded, so vain and stupid"
4th law of robotics
Nov 2012
#41
What? It's a primary source. It predates the concept of "right wing" by 160 years. (nt)
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#15
This was not socialism. They tried to do things communally which didn't work
Flabbergasted
Nov 2012
#16
He's trying to prove that something written in the 1600s is retroactively neoconservative
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#36
The text at that link is more than a century older than the United States.
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#29
It is not possible to be more direct than a primary source without being physically there. (nt)
Posteritatis
Nov 2012
#32
i think he's saying that the OP wasn't researching bradford on his own, he got the
HiPointDem
Nov 2012
#39
Rome collapsed in a deliberate attempt to discredit promiscuity, homosexuality, and heathenism
4th law of robotics
Nov 2012
#42
Albeit true, the problem is treating this as a parable for modern society.
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2012
#34
The account is not correct. It demeans the Native americans who actually saved their white asses
BanTheGOP
Nov 2012
#37
The Native Americans' experiment with communal property and socialism ended badly
DireStrike
Nov 2012
#61
My 11th great grandfather didn't come for socialism...he came with his family to make money
HereSince1628
Nov 2012
#63