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kag

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13. You might be right, but this is a good start.
Fri Nov 23, 2012, 12:36 PM
Nov 2012

This would absolutely affect my family's income (we would pay more in payroll taxes), and I'm all for it. This is the most fair adjustment to SS, and beats the hell out of raising the retirement age or decreasing benefits.

K&R AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #1
K & r antigop Nov 2012 #2
You're on the Greatest page pintobean Nov 2012 #3
Cool. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #9
Leadership. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #4
K&R - the cap IS the problem. I pay the full rate on all of OUR income. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #5
^This^ Freddie Nov 2012 #16
Bingo. We get fucked and they get a free ride. That's the way it is. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #24
No you don't indypaul Nov 2012 #58
No. You pay the full 15.whatever % and get a DEDUCTION of 1/2 of the SE side. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #66
You're a smart dude. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #91
Post removed Post removed Nov 2012 #104
You are hardly the most "pro-woman" guy here. noamnety Nov 2012 #108
Agreed...if you want to be seen as pro-woman, don't be a p___yt____dc__tt__ter. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #123
I couldn't agree more. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #110
"if you're self employed you ..." True, if you don't know how to rent property from yourself or a AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #74
Fuck. I've never made enough in self employment to worry about that. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #76
Disagree Jimbo S Nov 2012 #30
That makes no sense. If you exceed the cap you don't even need the benefits. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #36
With that thought process, they better hope they never fall from the $100k threshold of income then. MessiahRp Nov 2012 #78
you may or may not need the money when you are retired. mopinko Nov 2012 #80
Sorry, I'm not in that league. But if I was, I'd pay it. It just makes sense. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #83
hey, it's a great investment. mopinko Nov 2012 #127
I never even knew about the cap...until my income exceeded it magical thyme Nov 2012 #45
We will provide higher benefit levels for higher amounts paid in, as we should. SS Insurance. Overseas Nov 2012 #75
That's not progressive taxation at all. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #86
It is Insurance. As it is now, if you earn more you pay more and you get more-- up to 100K. Overseas Nov 2012 #103
No if the rich want more out let them raise the return for everyone. It is community Vincardog Nov 2012 #107
Benefits are computed from the AIME formula FogerRox Nov 2012 #124
The cap was installed to prevent the spectacle of Social Security cutting huge checks to the rich. Selatius Nov 2012 #137
I am sorry, but the cap should be reivised and adjusted as needed on a yearly basis. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #6
You might be right, but this is a good start. kag Nov 2012 #13
Actually, the cap is revised annually if the formula calls for it. LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #49
Interesting. I meant of course, adjusted in a way that is meaningful towards assuring solvency and geckosfeet Nov 2012 #60
I do think there needs to be a graduated decrease in benefits LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #85
Well, we as a society are really big on needs based assistance. If you have an income geckosfeet Nov 2012 #87
Yes, if the receive $250k annually during retirement. LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #112
No decrease in benefits OnlinePoker Nov 2012 #135
the cap is adjusted every year. mopinko Nov 2012 #128
The current rates of adjustment are not adequate to provide for a vigorous system. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #129
Load up his answering machine with onethatcares Nov 2012 #7
+1! -nt CrispyQ Nov 2012 #23
K & R AzDar Nov 2012 #8
Yay Senator! shenmue Nov 2012 #10
Cool! SoapBox Nov 2012 #11
Great proposals. Where is the 'lamestream' media on this? joanbarnes Nov 2012 #12
Operation Mockingbird AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #17
If the majority of the Democratic Senate caucus were pushing for this Telly Savalas Nov 2012 #122
He is properly addressing the fraudulent rigging of CPI calculations (chained CPI being the most... Faryn Balyncd Nov 2012 #14
This is such a commonsense thing. drm604 Nov 2012 #15
Yep, it must be all the Repubs' fault. I know that this is true because there are those who have AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #19
If it makes you feel good to put words in my mouth, then have at it, drm604 Nov 2012 #68
Did I say that you, with your speculation, said that it was "all" the Republicans' fault? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #70
Yes you DID say that.. pangaia Nov 2012 #101
Obviously, (1) that was sarcasm, and (2) the phrase was not included within quotation marks or AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #102
Actually, I got your post and drm's post mixed up. pangaia Nov 2012 #106
This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #109
Now I understand. I, too, confused the posts and thought that your post was drm's post to me. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #111
I'm a scorpio so.. pangaia Nov 2012 #119
They have been talking about this for years julian09 Nov 2012 #20
Common sense has no place in politics. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #21
Don't Republicans usually love a flat tax? Please proceed Nov 2012 #18
K&R N/T mecherosegarden Nov 2012 #22
Will this bill help us gain House seats in 2014? grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #25
I agree. That's if we talk about it and push it. If no one talks about it, it's dead in the water. vaberella Nov 2012 #39
Every action the Dems take should be predicated with this question, IMHO. grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #77
Yes, but dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #99
Imagine that, a progressive solution to a problem... Wounded Bear Nov 2012 #26
K&R Wow! These Democratic politicians are on a hot streak! UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #27
Why is this obvious first solution deemed so damned radical by the Inside the Beltway types? leveymg Nov 2012 #28
Because they are a bunch of spoiled rich whores Joe Bacon Nov 2012 #40
The sticking point radical noodle Nov 2012 #29
Or keep a cap on employers but not employees. Freddie Nov 2012 #33
If the cap is eliminated on employees it should also apply to employers. LiberalFighter Nov 2012 #52
Most people don't even know about the FICA cap Freddie Nov 2012 #31
Do you explain to them that their Social Security benefit is also capped, Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #88
Of course its fair, They get the Earned income tax cedit? RIght? FogerRox Nov 2012 #120
People who are earning above the SS cap do NOT get EITC, that seems obvious. Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #143
Contact Information Change has come Nov 2012 #32
Mark has our back, Show him we got his back! Joe Bacon Nov 2012 #34
Here is his contact page: UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #42
Thanks for link. Another one resisting the plutocrats. freshwest Nov 2012 #121
Since the maximum benefit customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #35
And then they borrow the money in the SS fund to pay for wars and taxcuts... kentuck Nov 2012 #37
Yep, Reagan was a seven-dimensional chess player. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Nov 2012 #38
K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #41
This is what we need to be discussing. CBHagman Nov 2012 #43
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #44
CUE THE VONAGE THEME! rocktivity Nov 2012 #46
This can't work edhopper Nov 2012 #47
Standing Ovation !!!! Next, the Pentagon Offense Budget...tool it back to a Defense Budget. libdem4life Nov 2012 #48
Write or call your congress member. cyclezealot Nov 2012 #50
WTH took so long.... Historic NY Nov 2012 #51
Yay!...Just emailed him a big "Thanks" n/t whathehell Nov 2012 #53
And another facet of this argument... kentuck Nov 2012 #54
Absolutely true, and it would be better to raise the minimum wage TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #157
What would be the effect if the cap was simply Still Sensible Nov 2012 #55
That makes a ton of sense. kentuck Nov 2012 #56
Since 1983 the cap has been adjusted to keep it at the 90%til. FogerRox Nov 2012 #118
it's already solvent for decades. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #57
+1. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #115
100% Pay-As-You-Go. nt Romulox Nov 2012 #152
We should sell this as a "Flat Tax for SS. sellitman Nov 2012 #59
x2 AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #72
ooo . .good framing annabanana Nov 2012 #93
That's a DEMOCRAT. kenny blankenship Nov 2012 #61
Both of my senators have signed on already. But then, they're Democrats. freshwest Nov 2012 #69
This really makes TOO much sense! NYtoBush-Drop Dead Nov 2012 #62
Remove or reduce the cap. penndragon69 Nov 2012 #63
I'm going to disagree with you Travis_0004 Nov 2012 #79
True. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #81
And I would agree with you except the wealthy are failing the nation already at cstanleytech Nov 2012 #100
Then we lose the reason the EITC was passed in the early 70's FogerRox Nov 2012 #125
Well they could just cap the monthly check to based on income and yes cstanleytech Nov 2012 #133
+100 If we take nothing from capital then we owe nothing to capital FogerRox Nov 2012 #117
Applying a means test to SS makes it a welfare program FogerRox Nov 2012 #116
100% of Social Security is paid by current workers. There are no "savings accounts" to draw from. Romulox Nov 2012 #153
From a legal or adminstrative standpoint you would be wrong. FogerRox Nov 2012 #156
Nonsense. Social Security is *100% Pay-As-You-Go*. Your document doesn't dispute that Romulox Nov 2012 #158
Your numbers are way, way off. No one paying into the system for 40 years gets Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #145
Not quite enough for me to forgive you, Mark, Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #64
I hear ya. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #89
k+r! TeamPooka Nov 2012 #65
Kickety AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #67
Think it was first posted xxqqqzme Nov 2012 #73
If the Thugs filibuster them - make sure Reid orders the Republicans back on the floor and Panasonic Nov 2012 #82
This all depends on "DAY 1". . . . n/t annabanana Nov 2012 #94
The Obama negotiating position is complete crap BlueStreak Nov 2012 #84
Or you can just call it cynical manipulation and leave it at that. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #139
Why, how VERY un-bipartisan of that Senator. blkmusclmachine Nov 2012 #90
K&R sheshe2 Nov 2012 #92
HOW EXCELLENT! Iwillnevergiveup Nov 2012 #95
I have serious reservations that the GOP or Conserva-Dems would support this NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #96
Mark IS a conservadem Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #114
Politics over We The People East Coast Pirate Nov 2012 #97
If idiots can start a petition to the WH to secede, NashvilleLefty Nov 2012 #98
At least there is a proposal to fix this problem AlphaCentauri Nov 2012 #105
I have contacted my (Maine) senators, not that it will do any good. Regardless of their so-called Maineman Nov 2012 #113
Should wait to hear more about this CPI-E before jumping on board with this? limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #126
Fuck yeah, Kick and rec tavalon Nov 2012 #130
excellent solution. blackspade Nov 2012 #131
Really! rks306 Nov 2012 #132
Rec'd. This is what I just sent to Senator's Levin & Stabenow Kaleva Nov 2012 #134
Well done. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #138
Called my Senators this morning and even called my Repub Congressman Kaleva Nov 2012 #150
Excellent. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #151
I also called Senator Mark Begich's D.C. office... Kaleva Nov 2012 #154
That's great. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #155
+1 BlueStreak Nov 2012 #142
Yes, it has been posted already. However-- eridani Nov 2012 #136
That's about the nearest thing to a Silver Bullet as there is 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #140
I have a quibble... GTurck Nov 2012 #141
I agree. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #147
Yes it was posted before, but ProSense Nov 2012 #144
That's what I thought. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #146
This is a great idea! Jasana Nov 2012 #148
Oh by the way K&R n/t Jasana Nov 2012 #149
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