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valerief

(53,235 posts)
315. Well, it looks like the youngster has blocked me, but here's my message.
Thu Nov 22, 2012, 10:30 AM
Nov 2012

You're going to so much effort to prove you're right and it's only tv.

Guilty people work at proving how right they are so they won't feel so guilty.

But that's okay. I figure you must be a young male, so you don't know any better.

Are You Dumber than an American? [View all] unhappycamper Nov 2012 OP
despite the total lack of common sense and evidence? Flashmann Nov 2012 #1
The problem is ubiquitous even on DU. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #138
It's not satire and it's not funny AlbertCat Nov 2012 #152
maybe it's not funny to YOU- but a LOT of others seem to like it. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #177
I absolutely agree! ReRe Nov 2012 #164
Why can't you choose to simply not watch it and allow those that EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #272
Whew.... I hit a nerve... ReRe Nov 2012 #274
No, hardly. I'm just tolerant of other EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #276
I think you did use the word "petty", no? ReRe Nov 2012 #277
P.S. ReRe Nov 2012 #278
P.S.S. ReRe Nov 2012 #279
Welcome. You have a Happy Thanksgiving as well. EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #290
Oh, come on. I'm from the South and I find that hilarious. redgreenandblue Nov 2012 #292
what a stupid article. yeah, all americans are stupid except for "the brilliant elite". HiPointDem Nov 2012 #2
I think you misinterpreted the description. It isn't that the American elite are brilliant, rather Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #4
use of definite rather than indefinite article suggests otherwise. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #5
It is a translation done by a volunteer from Swedish. But if you want to get all freaked out by it, Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #10
well then all bets are off. do you read swedish? because all we have is the english HiPointDem Nov 2012 #12
I found the original DFW Nov 2012 #20
thank you. "av" is what is translated as "beside"? what are the various senses of "av"? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #27
"av" means "Of" Demeter Nov 2012 #46
google translates the sentence in question as: HiPointDem Nov 2012 #52
Point of the article demonstrated above. liberalmuse Nov 2012 #84
care to expound on what you find so stupid? or perhaps contribute your own summary? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #88
LoPointDem would be a better handle for you. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #139
unfortunately, i'm unable to respond in kind. some posters are allowed to HiPointDem Nov 2012 #218
be careful with google translate thesquanderer Nov 2012 #149
i appreciate dfw's translation, which clarified the passage. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #161
"European Sport". Really? All europeans do this? Lars77 Nov 2012 #72
about as many as there are stupid americans... HiPointDem Nov 2012 #97
70 years ago now treestar Nov 2012 #96
28 million dead Russians may disagree with your post. go west young man Nov 2012 #187
The thing about accusing people who criticise you of having sibelian Nov 2012 #263
I married a Swede Demeter Nov 2012 #275
Swedish is very easy for an English-speaking person to learn DFW Nov 2012 #111
thank you. i appreciate the discussion of the individual words. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #117
Nice post!! I just saw it after posting my own attempt at translation through German. n/t xocet Nov 2012 #123
Greetings...(now to the "I'm not an expert, but I play one on the internet"-segment of the thread) xocet Nov 2012 #121
See my dissection above (post 111) DFW Nov 2012 #134
Thanks. xocet Nov 2012 #159
There are a LOT of similarities in the basics of German and Swedish DFW Nov 2012 #162
That is really cool. I need to check out Swedish grammar. xocet Nov 2012 #173
Have I ever been to Belgium? DFW Nov 2012 #179
You must have a very interesting existence - I won't ask what you do.... xocet Nov 2012 #217
The Sächsisch dialect is from the area of Leipzig. defacto7 Nov 2012 #223
just for a note defacto7 Nov 2012 #224
"Sächsisch" just means "Saxon" DFW Nov 2012 #260
I deal with Americans every day. It's rare to find one that can speak in complete sentences Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #35
what "we do as a nation" has nothing to do with the intelligence of individual HiPointDem Nov 2012 #42
You didn't even read it, did you? Enjoy your outrage. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #43
your post? i read every word. i'm not outraged. you appear to be the outraged HiPointDem Nov 2012 #45
I thought this paragraph made a good point. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #47
i think it's pretty easy not to to so. i think israel, as a nation, does plenty of shitty HiPointDem Nov 2012 #57
Which one of those nations has a military equal to the rest of the planet combined? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #59
none, but that seems to me irrelevant. or perhaps relevant in this way: if they did, HiPointDem Nov 2012 #60
And because most hegemons have acted that way it's not amazingly dumbass? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #66
how many other places have you lived? it's not that different from anywhere else. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #68
Try not paying attention to that stuff and then having social conversation with people Fumesucker Nov 2012 #73
i haven't found it such a terrible minefield if i discuss rather than lecture (contrary HiPointDem Nov 2012 #80
More listening, less lecturing. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #140
yes. as i acknowledge. du is not real life. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #143
Or try not watching television and carrying on a conversation with the majority Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #178
Yeah, that was my point Fumesucker Nov 2012 #183
You got me. I skipped over a lot of the rant. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #185
That is absurd. grantcart Nov 2012 #294
i've heard the "only in..." line from people from every country that i've met. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #302
"Only in America" refers to a Horatio Alger type rags-to-riches story. Not generosity. Romulox Nov 2012 #309
Are you including yourself and your family in your stereotype? lalalu Nov 2012 #87
none of the people on this thread are the dumb ones, of course. the dumb ones HiPointDem Nov 2012 #99
I just find it interesting that lalalu Nov 2012 #100
If only you could see how far off the mark you are Fumesucker Nov 2012 #141
Myself, no. Most of my family, most definitely. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #175
No exceptions, this is stereotyping all Americans. lalalu Nov 2012 #191
Nice try, but this pathetic attempt to re-write what was written to suit your defense will not fly. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #194
You reread. lalalu Nov 2012 #197
And another fail from the outraged illiterate. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #199
When you can't defend your position then personal attacks are all you have. lalalu Nov 2012 #202
I provided the evidentiary quotation in the reply. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #221
How ironic that you are the one behaving like a dumb American. lalalu Nov 2012 #234
I know you are, but what am I? Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #235
I just told you what you are. lalalu Nov 2012 #236
I know you are, but what am I? Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #237
It's "rare" to find an American who can speak in complete sentences? What does that say about cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #215
do you read swedish AlbertCat Nov 2012 #153
hardly. it's a function of location and economics, nothing to do with intelligence. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #158
Swedish is tricky with its articles DFW Nov 2012 #14
Here you are. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #36
The Scand. languages have also conveniently simplified verb conjugations Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #124
Verbs are a joy for sure, no conjugation at all DFW Nov 2012 #136
I was gonna mention the subjunctive Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #151
Oh, yeah. DFW Nov 2012 #156
I was sorta aware of ðat. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #165
If you can really read the runes, kudos DFW Nov 2012 #168
I wrote this: Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #169
OK, now I'm REALLY impressed! DFW Nov 2012 #171
Making their point indeed! elleng Nov 2012 #145
Brilliant people are not necessarily FlaGranny Nov 2012 #17
My reply was badly worded, or at least not specific enough. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #41
What exactly are you pissed about?.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #15
i'm not pissed. i think the article's stupid, at least the title & excerpt i read in HiPointDem Nov 2012 #49
I too have lived and billh58 Nov 2012 #69
i understand where it comes from as well. it comes from selective media reports, HiPointDem Nov 2012 #76
Right you are brush Nov 2012 #83
Exactly lalalu Nov 2012 #98
That is not what was said. gcomeau Nov 2012 #110
You may be right. However, in which country is it that average citizens don't HiPointDem Nov 2012 #119
None of them. Not the point at all. gcomeau Nov 2012 #132
sweden 1st ventured into neoliberalization decades ago, and not just in ed. not something new, e.g. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #160
You quibble and miss the big picture: Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #144
Martin Bashir has a commercial where he basically says: Whisp Nov 2012 #252
smug and stupid article. cali Nov 2012 #3
She said in a sweeping generalization Fumesucker Nov 2012 #21
really? so you actually think that sweeping generalizations are an intelligent way cali Nov 2012 #25
And Palestinians are violent Fumesucker Nov 2012 #31
Really? I don't see Cali making that assertion & I don't see her name on the link you provided. whathehell Nov 2012 #89
The link I provided was to a DUer calling Palestinians "naturally violent" Fumesucker Nov 2012 #91
Um, yeah, whatever. whathehell Nov 2012 #127
I had it to start with and I think you're wrong Fumesucker Nov 2012 #128
I think not, and even if what you say about Cali is true, whathehell Nov 2012 #189
Example of sweeping generalization by cali Fumesucker Nov 2012 #324
"rarely" is a qualifier. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #29
It's still a sweeping generalization Fumesucker Nov 2012 #33
however, it has the merit of truth value. which the propositon that americans are HiPointDem Nov 2012 #37
I just find it humorous that cali of all people denounces sweeping generalizations Fumesucker Nov 2012 #44
hmm. you may have a point there. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #50
+1. Ironically, it's one of those OPs that sufrommich Nov 2012 #40
LOL. whathehell Nov 2012 #81
Agree 100% lalalu Nov 2012 #203
Television, the drug of the nation. Breeding ignorance, fear, and anti-intellectualism. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #6
Yep. No country in the world has the superior marketing strategies of the U.S. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #63
and I guess no other country in the world has television either. whathehell Nov 2012 #82
And you guessed wrong. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #104
Oh my. I guess I should remember that sarcasm thingy. whathehell Nov 2012 #109
they have it, but they never watch it. well, not very much. oh wait - HiPointDem Nov 2012 #106
have you seen commercials in other countries? they do just fine. they have all the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #103
Yes, actually I *have* seen commercials in the other countries of the world. Lived in some of. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #108
there may be a real journalism still alive in europe, i actually don't know. but the right HiPointDem Nov 2012 #113
Wage slaves in Europe BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #122
.... HiPointDem Nov 2012 #163
There's a difference between Guest Workers and your average German employee. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #251
Love the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy reference. nt OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #135
There aren't many of us that recognize that, although since LCD displays have become nearly Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #174
I've got the four song EP/maxi single OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #182
I'm thinking of Theodore White's first book: ewagner Nov 2012 #7
+1 nt laundry_queen Nov 2012 #8
Indeed we have become consumers instead of citizens. mountain grammy Nov 2012 #107
I was hoping this was a TV show. -nt- DireStrike Nov 2012 #9
LOL! +1 Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #11
No, because I grew up in Massachusetts, or as the Tea Party calls it "The most liberal Country in pam4water Nov 2012 #13
DURec x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #16
I love this country. brokechris Nov 2012 #18
Re: Palin--the "exist" wasn't meant to be taken literally DFW Nov 2012 #133
I didn't know you wrote the article brokechris Nov 2012 #180
I didn't know you read Swedish DFW Nov 2012 #216
I'm actually much smarter than the average American tavalon Nov 2012 #19
if you long to be a Canadian brokechris Nov 2012 #23
Because I'm poly with an autistic child tavalon Nov 2012 #30
if they want you and you can brokechris Nov 2012 #39
I spent years trying to find that way tavalon Nov 2012 #195
"poly" = ? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #146
While it's currently going to hell in a handbasket, tavalon Nov 2012 #192
Ah, thanks. Know of polyamory; please use the word not the abbreviation except in contexts Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #230
Yeah, you're right tavalon Nov 2012 #232
Vancouver is wonderful... BobTheSubgenius Nov 2012 #222
Currently living in one of the most expensive places in the US tavalon Nov 2012 #233
If they don't want your family, why would you want to move there? Dr. Strange Nov 2012 #258
discussion groups are poor places to explain the intricacies of a situation such as mine. tavalon Nov 2012 #267
.Well, thanks for telling us that, Tav, especially since it's not especially apparent. whathehell Nov 2012 #105
Please... for the love of all that is good and just... be joking. ElboRuum Nov 2012 #118
Yes, I had hoped for the same whathehell Nov 2012 #126
Vancouver specifically tavalon Nov 2012 #196
I doubt that will be far enough. ElboRuum Nov 2012 #205
Does my expressing an opinion offend you in some way? tavalon Nov 2012 #207
Well, I guess it depends on how you express it, now doesn't it? ElboRuum Nov 2012 #243
Did you not get the part where it's merely a pipe dream and not going to happen? tavalon Nov 2012 #268
"Pipe" dream. Ah, clever... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #280
Well, you are bright if not kind. tavalon Nov 2012 #308
I've found that people who talk like that, Union Scribe Nov 2012 #214
+ 10 whathehell Nov 2012 #316
Home schooling BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #22
You said it, and you said it well! mountain grammy Nov 2012 #92
As long as our News Media is allowed to oldbanjo Nov 2012 #24
no more so than any other nation. you have the educated and uneducated. the curious, seabeyond Nov 2012 #26
yep. no difference. i heard palinesque stuff 30 years ago from a pair of canadians HiPointDem Nov 2012 #32
Oh, so now you think anecdotal evidence proves sweeping generalizations. Logic much? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #147
not at all. where did i say such a thing? but you know, there's a logical gap from "half the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #172
The half that voted for Romney sure do drag the average down severely. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #176
Thank you. Like many others here, I get very tired of the obligatory Five Minutes of Self Hate. whathehell Nov 2012 #193
Appealing to America's ignorance and gullibility The Wizard Nov 2012 #28
yep. most of the memes come from the "brilliant elite" themselves, and are used HiPointDem Nov 2012 #34
Fundamentalist Christians BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #38
I've tried to make it through watching Idiocracy, but never have, one of my failings in RKP5637 Nov 2012 #54
A barely mediocre comedy staring Luke Wilson. Dash87 Nov 2012 #181
You're right, as a comedic film it is awful. But, as a social commentary, and possible Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #186
Perhaps Ms. Thug . whathehell Nov 2012 #286
None taken, and I have always, on occasion, enjoyed a little pain. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #305
So you're a masochist? whathehell Nov 2012 #306
Hey, I'm a really left liberal, intellectual, and a member of DU. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #312
Hmm... davidthegnome Nov 2012 #48
Years before my wife and I got together chemenger Nov 2012 #51
you know something? brokechris Nov 2012 #55
"Stupid and self-centered"? whathehell Nov 2012 #125
I can't disagree with anything you've stated in your response, however chemenger Nov 2012 #129
I find most of humanity pretty stupid, so I don't think America has the only leading role when RKP5637 Nov 2012 #53
+1000000 It's not an American issue... dionysus Nov 2012 #204
Ah, yes, the sensible Swedes, for whom child porn was legal until 1999. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #56
To paraphrase George Carlin. . . . ncgrits Nov 2012 #58
and where do you stand in this hierarchy of smartness? as you are standing back HiPointDem Nov 2012 #65
HA! I would like to think that I am in the top 1/2, but doing so probably qualifies me ncgrits Nov 2012 #130
Forgive me Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #61
No "forgiveness" needed whathehell Nov 2012 #190
For all the consternation the Swedish author is causing in this thread, I have to get a CTyankee Nov 2012 #62
The author makes a very smart point. Barack_America Nov 2012 #74
I thought so too. I just can't understand the utter outrage here about what she wrote in this CTyankee Nov 2012 #77
If she had inserted "conservative" in the title we'd all be applauding this. Barack_America Nov 2012 #79
I tuned in on precisely that vibe from her. CTyankee Nov 2012 #86
Rather than ask "where to begin", you might want to aks "Where to end". whathehell Nov 2012 #259
It's great that we have elected a person of color to President, yes and good for us! CTyankee Nov 2012 #262
Yes, it is and of course I know that it's not "everything", and as a progressive democrat whathehell Nov 2012 #264
I feel that we are "evolving" on the social programs faster than we have on the CTyankee Nov 2012 #266
People vote where they think they're given an actual choice Fumesucker Nov 2012 #273
that observation gripped me too. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #154
What many under a certain age don't realize is that this idiocy, this "rejection of science", etc. whathehell Nov 2012 #310
Very true treestar Nov 2012 #101
Stupid people do the bidding of the plutocrats. Barack_America Nov 2012 #114
Oh, that apocalyptic dialect, really gets me ElboRuum Nov 2012 #142
lol. yeah, it's all those stupid people serving as worker bees and managerial personnel in the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #170
You might consider reading the post I was responding to... Barack_America Nov 2012 #184
+1000 noiretextatique Nov 2012 #167
I was wondering why the Frisbee was getting bigger. aandegoons Nov 2012 #64
LOL RKP5637 Nov 2012 #67
Stupid sells. Barack_America Nov 2012 #70
Only in America is the film Idiocracy not considered a satire. nt valerief Nov 2012 #71
Americans aren't "stupid" Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #75
i agree with the general thrust but i'd just like to say that america never scored HiPointDem Nov 2012 #102
Thanks Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #120
"I stand by my theory that we are much more disillusioned than stupid." I agree. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #166
US became most powerful economy in large part by attracting highly educated intelligent immigrants. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #148
Interesting discussion, lots of defensiveness. Maineman Nov 2012 #78
Lighten up! denvine Nov 2012 #85
Margaret Thatcher, Sarkozy, soccer riots, Greek rightwing extremists, lalalu Nov 2012 #90
Thank you. Although I've learned to expect a lot of knee-jerk anti-Americanism whathehell Nov 2012 #323
It is due to our misguided belief that disputation and argument lead to the truth FarCenter Nov 2012 #93
Funny... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #115
Customers rather than citizens treestar Nov 2012 #94
We are ... (both) Maineman Nov 2012 #95
Oh, dear. More of this shit... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #112
Maybe you missed this valerief Nov 2012 #131
Quite amusing that... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #137
... Fumesucker Nov 2012 #188
Always enjoyed that one... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #201
I guess it's a good thing we don't have a democracy then....... Burma Jones Nov 2012 #116
If you make one ethnic slur, you are embracing and tolerating ALL ethnic slurs melody Nov 2012 #150
Correct, and the dummies eagerly embracing this self-hate shit sandwich would be excoriating whathehell Nov 2012 #198
Exactly, well said. melody Nov 2012 #220
Thank you. n/t whathehell Nov 2012 #256
I'm allowed to point out the flaws of my own ethnicity Fumesucker Nov 2012 #206
You're still a bigot melody Nov 2012 #219
Aww, I love you too Fumesucker Nov 2012 #229
We must question our prejudices melody Nov 2012 #239
What part of "popular culture" do you fail to understand? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #240
Believe what you need to believe melody Nov 2012 #245
I'm rubber and you're glue your words bounce off me and stick to you.. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #247
I wasn't trying to be mature or logical -- simply concise and honest melody Nov 2012 #250
No, "American" is not an ethnicity. It's a nationality. They are not the same thing. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #227
An ethnic quality or affiliation resulting from racial or cultural ties melody Nov 2012 #238
Nope Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #242
My background is in cultural anthropology melody Nov 2012 #244
Congratulations Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #246
That's right, anthropoloogy and dictionaries are wrong ... you are right melody Nov 2012 #249
Show me an anthropologist who defines "American" as an ethnic group. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #254
In regard to Melody's point, It's a distinction without much of a difference whathehell Nov 2012 #257
Thank you once again n/t melody Nov 2012 #270
You're very welcome, Melody whathehell Nov 2012 #281
We don't have just one ethnicity melody Nov 2012 #261
Yep. whathehell Nov 2012 #283
Learn to read pls Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #319
You learn to read pls whathehell Nov 2012 #320
Brilliant elite? louslobbs Nov 2012 #155
GOP try to wisen up BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #157
The National Democrats/Sweden Democrats hold seats in their government lalalu Nov 2012 #200
You're correct, lalalu, but the drooling europhiles here will likely ignore that whathehell Nov 2012 #285
Yea, yea....dumb Americans.... paleotn Nov 2012 #208
I'm a danger to myself and others. Deep13 Nov 2012 #209
Damn Swiss!!! grantcart Nov 2012 #210
We should invade them billh58 Nov 2012 #291
Sweden is not Switzerland. MichaelMcGuire Nov 2012 #296
No, I meant Switzerland billh58 Nov 2012 #301
You mean Swedish. MichaelMcGuire Nov 2012 #297
It's like fishing. You put out a little bait and eventually one will bite. grantcart Nov 2012 #303
It's ok I'm allowed a slow day every once in a while. MichaelMcGuire Nov 2012 #321
no harm no foul, done it many times myself grantcart Nov 2012 #322
Flip side of idiotic emotionalism is rugged individuality. McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #211
47.59% are dumb in my book bluemarkers Nov 2012 #212
And, what? You imagine that a majority of the rest of the world's populations are Brilliant? whathehell Nov 2012 #288
that's what you take away from my post? lol!! bluemarkers Nov 2012 #304
knr spanone Nov 2012 #213
We're probably all in the same boat.... Kind of a happy start to the season! defacto7 Nov 2012 #225
Hypocrites. leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #226
Sweden: Pot calls kettle black lbrtbell Nov 2012 #228
"Dumb" is exactly the wrong word here. The right word is "ignorant." eridani Nov 2012 #231
Yes, and I'm sure there is no "ignorance" in Sweden where, as another poster pointed out whathehell Nov 2012 #265
I'm not understanding you. Are you saying that... CTyankee Nov 2012 #269
No. whathehell Nov 2012 #282
Here's the sense in which the article is true: Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #241
I just recently watched the Helen Mirren Prime Suspect series, from the early 90s valerief Nov 2012 #253
And they let Helen Mirren's character age, too Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #255
Is this your first and perhaps only experience with Euro TV?. whathehell Nov 2012 #287
Bwahahahaha! Well, I've been duly finger-wagged over an issue I really don't care about. valerief Nov 2012 #289
Oh, I'm sure you "really don't care about" it.. whathehell Nov 2012 #295
Wow, I didn't realize Euro TV was so damn important. Why it is, I don't know. valerief Nov 2012 #298
Apparently it was "important" enough whathehell Nov 2012 #299
My point about Prime Suspect being a good series? You don't think it was? nt valerief Nov 2012 #300
No, I think your point was that whathehell Nov 2012 #307
Wow, you must really feel guilty about finger-wagging me over such a petty issue. nt valerief Nov 2012 #311
Wow. How did you arrive at such a bizarrely erroneous conclusion? whathehell Nov 2012 #313
This message was self-deleted by its author valerief Nov 2012 #314
Well, it looks like the youngster has blocked me, but here's my message. valerief Nov 2012 #315
Wrong again...You didn't think it was "only tv" when you wrote a rather lengthy post whathehell Nov 2012 #317
No, Val...I haven't blocked. you. Check and see if you're sending your post to the right person. whathehell Nov 2012 #318
I never grow tired of *these* articles 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #248
I don't even have to click on your link to know what you said is true. It's axiomatic. randome Nov 2012 #293
Media propaganda upi402 Nov 2012 #271
No, wait, I am an American. Rex Nov 2012 #284
Sadly, I partially agree with this article... frostfern Nov 2012 #325
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