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Warren Stupidity

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18. Because there are different levels of consciousness.
Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:34 AM
Nov 2012

Dogs and Turkeys are way closer to our level than a mosquito. Also, I kill mosquitos because they are harming me.

However, if you would eat a dog, why not a human?

. former-republican Nov 2012 #1
I have eaten dog. So I guess turkey is okay for me. jmowreader Nov 2012 #2
That deserves credit. Funny. nt Flabbergasted Nov 2012 #221
If you wouldn't beat your dog to death, why swat a mosquito? uppityperson Nov 2012 #3
Because there are different levels of consciousness. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #18
too much fat WooWooWoo Nov 2012 #25
You could raise lean free range humans. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #27
Soylent Green, my friend, is very tasty!! madinmaryland Nov 2012 #29
For today's consumers it would have to be Soylent Brown hack89 Nov 2012 #51
Hey, *something* has to replace those deep fried Twinkies! n/t LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #169
We already have free range humans AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #134
They are kind of gamey tasting. n/t Gore1FL Nov 2012 #203
Try barbecue sauce! AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #253
Also, the ad says "your dog" and "a turkey". I have less problem eating animals that aren't "my" pet uppityperson Nov 2012 #161
For that matter, turkeys aren't on the same level as dogs ... Bake Nov 2012 #162
With some fava beans and a nice Chianti? Sure. TalkingDog Nov 2012 #167
turkeys are marginally closer than a mosquito... BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #192
tool making cockatoos Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #249
Dogs do not know they are alive or will die. Correct? Logical Nov 2012 #261
Dogs seem to have a pretty good idea of when the end is approaching Art_from_Ark Nov 2012 #269
You've never interacted with a live turkey, have you? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #273
Quite frequently. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #275
Wild ones are not in question 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #282
I consider my turkey to be beside the potatoe..... PavePusher Nov 2012 #289
Steamed carrots? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #291
just so I understand your point here: Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #301
Clearly you don't understand: 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #304
so your new claim is that only "self awareness" matters and that we need Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #307
That's a very good question biohazard9550 Nov 2012 #166
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #214
Actually, they're just presenting an inconvenient truth... polichick Nov 2012 #4
Agree nt Raine Nov 2012 #6
It's not really a truth Confusious Nov 2012 #14
All of those are food to some people. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #19
"generally speaking" Confusious Nov 2012 #30
The french eat horse a lot. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #58
Very few Confusious Nov 2012 #75
Oxen are eaten in the US A LOT obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #69
Again "generally speaking" Confusious Nov 2012 #77
An ox is just a steer trained to be a draft animal. It's called beef at the store. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #97
Well, oops. Confusious Nov 2012 #199
What's the matter? Don't like Beef? All oxen are are steers who trained as draft animals... Ecumenist Nov 2012 #106
Well, generally speaking Confusious Nov 2012 #197
That's a rather ego-centric opinion-universe, yes? PavePusher Nov 2012 #292
The only markets I can think of where there aren't "BIG HUNKS OF OXEN" are in India Ecumenist Nov 2012 #110
You needed to say that twice? Confusious Nov 2012 #200
Yes, you do -- it's called "beef" obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #116
I guess Indians eating dog Confusious Nov 2012 #201
I heard eating dog was a response to post WWII near-starvation DBoon Nov 2012 #94
You heard correctly jsmirman Nov 2012 #99
I lived in China and Taiwan for a while. geardaddy Nov 2012 #126
Cat's in the Kettle notwithstanding...? MADem Nov 2012 #283
What "WE" are you talking about? demwing Nov 2012 #31
I thought it was pretty clear Confusious Nov 2012 #53
we don't eat "pets" for some value of "pet". Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #59
exactly. eom uppityperson Nov 2012 #163
And pet doesn't have a universal definition 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #293
I can find oxtails in any grocery store in my town obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #67
"generally speaking" Confusious Nov 2012 #79
Lots of people eat beef obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #118
Generally speaking.... YUM! Turborama Nov 2012 #251
Speaking for myself Confusious Nov 2012 #258
PLEASE let me know if anyone knows of a good US supplier of this. Nye Bevan Nov 2012 #280
Here you go Turborama Nov 2012 #286
Some cultures eat "helper animals" dynasaw Nov 2012 #127
I said "generally speaking" Confusious Nov 2012 #198
How are cats "helper" animals? MrSlayer Nov 2012 #204
Well, yea Confusious Nov 2012 #206
They help me judge other people. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #233
As long as you limit 'we' to Americans. All those animal you listed are regular menu items all Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #223
For the 1,323th time Confusious Nov 2012 #235
And being wrong 1,323 times still doesn't make you right. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #238
So you are a cuisine expert? Confusious Nov 2012 #257
Depends on culture/location/circumstances. PavePusher Nov 2012 #290
That we should eat dog? Renew Deal Nov 2012 #23
Exactly obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #63
Nothing original about an appeal to emotion Major Nikon Nov 2012 #80
not really, it's unpractical to eat dog.. snooper2 Nov 2012 #92
Even people who eat dog don't eat the family pet Major Nikon Nov 2012 #132
I didn't say they did, I said they would have to be farm raised- snooper2 Nov 2012 #154
I'm just adding to what you wrote Major Nikon Nov 2012 #187
The Aztecs did exactly that nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #210
Lamb is bigger than dog and people eat lamb all the time. Renew Deal Nov 2012 #216
Well said! Doremus Nov 2012 #112
No they're not. Lots of people eat dog. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #113
Well, at least this one avoided Holocaust comparisons. nt Union Scribe Nov 2012 #5
No littlemissmartypants Nov 2012 #7
LOL Lefta Dissenter Nov 2012 #48
PETA reminds me of the NRA Azathoth Nov 2012 #8
Congress knows the diff between PeTA and NRA. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #71
You can publicly oppose PETA and still get re-elected DBoon Nov 2012 #95
Too true jsmirman Nov 2012 #101
True, but that just means PETA isn't doing it as well n/t Azathoth Nov 2012 #189
Because PeTA is largely discredited and politically insignificant. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #270
Moral: political lobbying is more effective than bizarre ads featuring naked women Azathoth Nov 2012 #188
PETA is taking the best approach available. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #190
Attention's one thing. Where have they had results? n/t customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #207
Yes, PETA gets results. Jim Lane Nov 2012 #209
macaque monkeys arely staircase Nov 2012 #262
Can your high IQ explain what is false about the analogy? redgreenandblue Nov 2012 #9
I agree there really is nothing wrong with the analogy! NT Sadiedog Nov 2012 #13
Yup obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #119
Not surprising that you have received no response. For a supposedly liberal message board, Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #224
'your dog' vs 'a turkey' 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #276
Not seeing your point tkmorris Nov 2012 #10
Self satisfaction in unfounded feeling of superiority? JackRiddler Nov 2012 #16
Huh. Actually, I kinda doubt that there are many vegans in Freeperville. Zorra Nov 2012 #11
Let 'em have their tofu turkey and crestnuts... Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #12
+10000000000 glacierbay Nov 2012 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Nov 2012 #15
ozzy fudd the wabbit slayer Fla_Democrat Nov 2012 #247
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Nov 2012 #252
And maybe higher than some here at DU Eyes of the World Nov 2012 #17
Just use the trash button demwing Nov 2012 #33
Much smarter than freepers quaker bill Nov 2012 #20
They are smart RandiFan1290 Nov 2012 #21
So true, and even telling them doesn't stop them. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #225
They love being dramatic and publishing stupid things. Seems dumb to me. I know of no one who.... Logical Nov 2012 #246
I really don't care if somebody elae refuses to eat meat, but they piss me off when they do all RomneyLies Nov 2012 #22
They've done nothing to stop you RandiFan1290 Nov 2012 #24
Their goal is to stop all meat production RomneyLies Nov 2012 #26
lol See #21 RandiFan1290 Nov 2012 #28
Their goal is to persuade people to rethink what they eat and what their Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #55
Maybe they should protest the wild animal shows Confusious Nov 2012 #85
So well said jsmirman Nov 2012 #104
It sure hasn't forced me to rethink my relationship glacierbay Nov 2012 #105
All this ad did for me was to convince me to go out and buy the biggest, fattest, freshly killed RomneyLies Nov 2012 #125
I did not say it changed your mind. It forced you to "re-think". Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #152
It did nothing of the kind. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #196
Re-think implies an original thought. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #226
LOL! Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #165
So you're basically like JoeyT Nov 2012 #195
I imagine the corollary is true, also LanternWaste Nov 2012 #137
No one want to touch your "come dead hand" demwing Nov 2012 #36
The hazards of posting from a phone RomneyLies Nov 2012 #65
thanks for not getting sweaty, I was just ribbing ya demwing Nov 2012 #91
Bullshit. All they're doing is expressing their beliefs. Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #62
PETA attempts to change the laws to cram their beliefs down everybody's throats RomneyLies Nov 2012 #68
ASPCA Good PeTA Bad william cail Nov 2012 #136
The ASPCA is great. I try to donate to them as much as possiible. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #151
I agree with them, meat is meat. Dog, cow , cat, chicken bowens43 Nov 2012 #32
Dogs are cute demwing Nov 2012 #40
If society every completely broke down RomneyLies Nov 2012 #93
Meh, turkey pretty much sucks anyway quinnox Nov 2012 #34
Always easy to say with a full stomach RandiFan1290 Nov 2012 #37
Still even then, I'd chomp down on some squirrels before I even considered eating a filthy dog quinnox Nov 2012 #43
Your attitude about dogs tells me all I need to know. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #50
oh well quinnox Nov 2012 #52
Yes, I'm a dog person but I don't go around saying I hate cats. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #54
well, I have had bad experiences with dogs quinnox Nov 2012 #56
I've been bitten by cats and dogs. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #61
have you ever been physically attacked by a large dog? quinnox Nov 2012 #70
More than once hobbit709 Nov 2012 #74
Squirrel is great! Fried, stewed, pot pie -- good stuff. Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #78
you'd be surprised at what you'll eat when you get hungry enough. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #44
sure, but that is not our situation. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #250
What "ethics"? PavePusher Nov 2012 #294
What is stupid about this? oberliner Nov 2012 #35
PETA has to be outrageous because that's the only way they get attention. hobbit709 Nov 2012 #38
What's wrong with that message? I don't get your point. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #39
I'm allergic to dogs, but not to turkey. So that bird is going down. JoePhilly Nov 2012 #41
YUM! n/t RomneyLies Nov 2012 #72
My mouth is watering for Turkey. nt. glacierbay Nov 2012 #109
Oh, you rotten bastidge.... PavePusher Nov 2012 #295
Maybe you are feeling guilty? Eyes of the World Nov 2012 #42
well, a PETA spokesman has arrived quinnox Nov 2012 #45
best to dismiss that with an eye roll smilie than to look behind the curtain. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #66
didn't realize you were a PETA fan quinnox Nov 2012 #81
I didn't realize your total lack of empathy for non human creatures. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #155
That poster is 100% right -- poultry ranching is horrific obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #73
another PETA fan, eh? quinnox Nov 2012 #82
Count me in too please. aandegoons Nov 2012 #84
you guys are coming out of the woodwork, eh quinnox Nov 2012 #86
True they are not humans. aandegoons Nov 2012 #88
you are really being mealy-mouthed quinnox Nov 2012 #96
Humans have a moral and ethical duty bto be stewards of animals obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #121
"If a human has a soul, then a turkey or a pig or a steer certainly does" alp227 Nov 2012 #241
so by extension you are stating that all of us are "batshit crazy" too. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #156
+10000 big difference NT rDigital Nov 2012 #234
Thanks obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #120
Thoughtful response jsmirman Nov 2012 #108
Because every person pro humane livestock ranching is "fringe" obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #115
This is spot on jsmirman Nov 2012 #107
PETA fan #4 quinnox Nov 2012 #111
Why does it surprise you to find PETA fans here? Beaverhausen Nov 2012 #147
Thank you, Beaverhausen jsmirman Nov 2012 #159
Nope, pretty sure I just think PETA's full of idiots Arkana Nov 2012 #103
Most theists assume a negative reaction to their crazy proclamations 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #278
When will Jasana Nov 2012 #46
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #211
I would give PETA more of a break IF get the red out Nov 2012 #47
You've been fed a pack of lies. yewberry Nov 2012 #217
PETA perverts "pro life". alp227 Nov 2012 #243
Here we go again... Iggo Nov 2012 #49
Can you help us low-IQ people with how this analogy Democracyinkind Nov 2012 #57
It's my gut feeling that... Iggo Nov 2012 #138
I don't see anything wrong with what PETA said obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #60
Break with traditon. cloudbase Nov 2012 #64
I love PETA! OhZone Nov 2012 #76
A dog is a filthy animal, but at least it's got personality slackmaster Nov 2012 #83
Agriculture does huge damage to animals and ecosystems... Eleanors38 Nov 2012 #87
No - PETA is much cleverer than FR by leaps and bounds DBoon Nov 2012 #89
Long ago, I got banned from PETA after remarking DinahMoeHum Nov 2012 #90
Yeah glacierbay Nov 2012 #114
And rightly so! Sadiedog Nov 2012 #139
I disagree.... PavePusher Nov 2012 #296
Turkeys are cute. I see wild ones all the time. Dash87 Nov 2012 #100
Yes, because eating the family pet is TOTALLY the same as eating a goddamn frozen turkey. Arkana Nov 2012 #102
It really is no different obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #122
You do realize the exact same logic applies to plants, right? jeff47 Nov 2012 #168
I eat as far from my DNA as possible. -nt CrispyQ Nov 2012 #176
Who is talking about souls? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #279
Yes, because eating the family is the same as eating a turkey. Meat is meat, after that Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #227
If you wouldn't eat a turkey, why are you fine with the mass destruction of Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #117
But I've had dog...not my personal one of course Rex Nov 2012 #123
Wow. Such great wit. HERVEPA Nov 2012 #130
Crazy Talk. RC Nov 2012 #124
Humans are Omnivore! darkangel218 Nov 2012 #128
It is not unnatural in the slightest HERVEPA Nov 2012 #129
Oh please. Like we evolved from apes eating tofu. darkangel218 Nov 2012 #150
Please to not introduce the facts Rex Nov 2012 #265
We didn't evolve from apes, we share common ancestors, but Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #271
Plants are other beings. jeff47 Nov 2012 #170
Now that is funny. Rex Nov 2012 #264
There are lots of behaviors that we have that are "natural" Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #157
Why does this goal not apply to plants? jeff47 Nov 2012 #171
As I stated up thread, for me it is level of consciousness. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #274
Studies have shown a surprising level of awareness in plants jeff47 Nov 2012 #277
experience and reaction are not consciousness. Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #305
My point is you've failed to show a lack of consciousness. jeff47 Nov 2012 #308
A properly managed cow pasture can be home to a variety of plant and animal life 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #306
Well for one Drale Nov 2012 #131
Sick! nt Sadiedog Nov 2012 #141
"Long pork".... PavePusher Nov 2012 #297
Actually, your post title sounds like a Teabilly rant to me. byronius Nov 2012 #133
+1000000000 whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #240
This ad is just silly LongHairedCountryBoy Nov 2012 #135
...and your dog thinks the same thing about you. Iggo Nov 2012 #140
No doubt LongHairedCountryBoy Nov 2012 #145
Welcome to DU LongHairedCountryBoy Autumn Nov 2012 #142
Thank you LongHairedCountryBoy Nov 2012 #146
Well when you talk you seem to make a statement Autumn Nov 2012 #182
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #212
Two reasons Bradical79 Nov 2012 #143
1. Wild turkeys are highly intelligent. PavePusher Nov 2012 #298
Because it is inefficient to raise carnivores for food? Tom Ripley Nov 2012 #144
The point is valid booley Nov 2012 #148
Exactly obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #160
Actually, the problem is the same argument applies to plants jeff47 Nov 2012 #174
yes and no booley Nov 2012 #285
Harry Harper: family 'devastated' at baby boy's pet dog attack death FarCenter Nov 2012 #149
Peta always has the ad campaigns people notice Sunlei Nov 2012 #153
Way too skinny.... PavePusher Nov 2012 #299
Hey Peta, come up with something fun, like making fungus into the shape of a turkey...n/t DearAbby Nov 2012 #158
Because I am smart enough to see the difference between "my" and "a". uppityperson Nov 2012 #164
Darn it! Now I'm craving Jack Russell. dawg Nov 2012 #172
How Dare PETA try to nudge our species towards compassion?!11! superpatriotman Nov 2012 #173
What's compassionate about shredding a living creature with your teeth? jeff47 Nov 2012 #175
Plants don't have a nervous system RedCappedBandit Nov 2012 #181
You don't need a central nervous system to feel pain. jeff47 Nov 2012 #183
Reaction =/= pain RedCappedBandit Nov 2012 #184
Then what is pain? jeff47 Nov 2012 #186
By your logic... bunnies Nov 2012 #193
And these plants, they're grown in areas 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #281
Fuck PETA, they're not helping at all. MrScorpio Nov 2012 #177
peta strikes again! madrchsod Nov 2012 #178
No but if I were a turkey my dog wouldn't hesitate to eat me Rstrstx Nov 2012 #179
Perfectly reasonable logic, IMO RedCappedBandit Nov 2012 #180
Yeah well, you know... that's just like, their opinion, man. n/t DefenseLawyer Nov 2012 #185
Well? bunnies Nov 2012 #191
Does the dog get to eat turkey? Cleita Nov 2012 #194
Idiots... BVictor1 Nov 2012 #202
Oh look it's a turdoggen. Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #205
lol Renew Deal Nov 2012 #215
As soon as the rest of the animal world Berserker Nov 2012 #208
Wish they would have drawn attention to factory poultry farms instead LeftInTX Nov 2012 #213
So, let me ask you, Archae,,, yewberry Nov 2012 #218
I support the right of people to believe in, for instance, ridiculous religious goofiness. Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #237
As do I. yewberry Nov 2012 #267
How do you know I eat meat? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #268
I rolled the dice and won. yewberry Nov 2012 #288
Nice mimosa_bunny Nov 2012 #219
Just not the same treestar Nov 2012 #220
The owner of my stable where I board my horse. One-eye has survived another Thanksgiving, BTW. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #228
I had a chicken as a pet. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #231
you can't get a chicken to come when you call it? treestar Nov 2012 #309
No, that's not the definition of domesticated. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #310
Actually, my brother's family has a pet turkey. PavePusher Nov 2012 #300
Sometimes PETA brings important issues to the forefront liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #222
Good point, PETA, we should not be so quick to dismiss dogs as food animals. Deep13 Nov 2012 #229
It's not the edible-ness. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #232
The logic can be read either way. ... Deep13 Nov 2012 #248
They lost me when they advocated killing stray and feral cats instead of TNR... joeybee12 Nov 2012 #230
How's the dog taste? Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #236
mmmmm Libertas1776 Nov 2012 #239
So then the desire to eat people would make one a genius? whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #242
Actually, as the controversy over Obama eating dog as a child shows LiberalElite Nov 2012 #244
They are as radical as the NRA. Nuts boths of them. People fucking eat meat. We were evolved to.... Logical Nov 2012 #245
I've noticed that people who give themselves vainglorious monikers like whatchamacallit Nov 2012 #254
LOL, wow, no defending PETA just insulting my name? How clever. PETA Sucks! Logical Nov 2012 #260
PETA Rocks! Skip Intro Nov 2012 #255
My Dog fully endorses eating Turkey standingtall Nov 2012 #256
Paul Newman's dog food outfit makes some nice organic turkey, chicken and beef dog food. nt MADem Nov 2012 #284
I don't think so. I don't agree with them but if you have a moral opposition to eating animals RB TexLa Nov 2012 #259
Meh...no. Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #263
I support PETA because they support animals. Bless their hearts! ailsagirl Nov 2012 #266
If you wouldn't easy your prized rosebushes why eat a salad? 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #272
I love PETA threads on DU. flvegan Nov 2012 #287
The only threads on DU I find more entertaining than PETA threads are the ones on Chavez Bad_Ronald Nov 2012 #302
My husband’s family - meat eaters, every one of them - frogmarch Nov 2012 #303
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