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louslobbs

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251. So you refer to someones analogy as "stupid" and you think this is going to help the conversation?
Tue Nov 20, 2012, 06:19 PM
Nov 2012

The only thing a comment like yours does, is breed upset and confrontation, it stops conversations that can over time help to breakthrough issues, and instead causes a breakdown in communication. Take a moment to think about that.
Lou

Really? Insulting fellow DUers is how you want to go? randome Nov 2012 #1
Yep, we should all shut up and get back to slurping vomit.. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #11
I don't see an insult toward Duers at all... help me out, please? Melinda Nov 2012 #17
I'll concede that. It was a little unclear to me on first reading that he only meant KOS and not DU. randome Nov 2012 #21
Thanks... the loss of neurons in me head causes me (and others!) no end of grief. Melinda Nov 2012 #25
Why, thank you. Don't mind if I do! randome Nov 2012 #28
Them cookies look GOOD, yo. leeroysphitz Nov 2012 #93
What's this? "Markos Moulitsas: Fraudsters, take your shit elsewhere" RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #27
I had not been in that thread. I wasn't even sure what it was about. randome Nov 2012 #42
Thanks for starting this thread. I've felt that there are some strange attitudes at the Kos site byeya Nov 2012 #109
Because they don't want DU to become known as the home of gullible mouth-breathers? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #223
Because truthers degrade Kos' brand, and so are not welcome . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #279
I have no idea whether the hacking is true or not. Bonhomme Richard Nov 2012 #2
"Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction..." ProSense Nov 2012 #3
If you have been studying the net for as long as I have RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #7
"People are sent, and they will not let the topic go" ProSense Nov 2012 #10
And Here You Are. bahrbearian Nov 2012 #59
Odd, someone else reinforces the point. A Simple Game Nov 2012 #113
Touche! Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #120
Yeah, here I am. ProSense Nov 2012 #151
Yeah, here she is. Thank Goodness. nm Cha Nov 2012 #265
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! RomneyLies Nov 2012 #33
Contrary evidence is POSITIVE evidence! Scootaloo Nov 2012 #129
They crack me up too. So do 'former Republicans' like Kos sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #146
Cenk is a "former Republican" ProSense Nov 2012 #154
Ed Schultz is a former Republican. randome Nov 2012 #156
Cenk has explained his transformation. He has never, that I am aware of, written about his sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #190
So's Howard Dean...and Hillary Clinton! MADem Nov 2012 #217
Yes they came to their senses but kos never did. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #225
You're not seriously suggesting that kos is a Republican? MADem Nov 2012 #230
Again, you comparing people who are in no way comparable to kos, to someone who, hopefully sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #235
I am not "comparing" anyone at all. What I am endeavoring to point out is that we are a large party. MADem Nov 2012 #287
The Big Tent argument always seems to ignore that what that meant sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #288
The Big Tent isn't an argument, though--it's the operative philosophy of the party. MADem Nov 2012 #291
It's simple. I don't like Republicans in the Big Tent. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #293
Well, you're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think your POV holds sway. MADem Nov 2012 #294
more on this .. Cass Sunstein is disturbed by all the "extremism" kilgore_trout Dec 2012 #296
actually this link is better kilgore_trout Dec 2012 #297
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #299
I Agree SoCalMusicLover Nov 2012 #4
Here's a good point: ProSense Nov 2012 #6
ORCA HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT! Atman Nov 2012 #53
Then why did it fail? jeff47 Nov 2012 #65
Software fails all the time. lalalu Nov 2012 #131
Something as trivial as "change O to R" isn't gonna fail. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #260
Sure it can. Just like something as trivial as lalalu Nov 2012 #274
Downloading that update has no effect. Installing that update does, and is much more complex. jeff47 Nov 2012 #284
"All the other times they've been wrong"??? aquart Nov 2012 #139
Exit polling isn't used like you think it is. jeff47 Nov 2012 #261
Trying to teach your grandmother to suck eggs? aquart Nov 2012 #268
No, you're the one implying exit polls are infallible. My grandmother took statistics. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #269
Except that the (alleged) Anonymous statement claimed... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #160
I AGREE! I am not arguing FOR Anonymous! Atman Nov 2012 #162
No-one suspects it, and that is suspicious? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #226
I know exactly as much as you do about the software patches. Atman Nov 2012 #236
You admit you don't know anything was amiss muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #239
Have even read my posts? It sure doesn't seem so. Atman Nov 2012 #248
Yes, I've read them, and they appear to be disconected from reality muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #259
"If this story is true, all that happened was essentially a validation of Obama's victory. " RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #12
Who is tryiing to lie to you? There is no evidence that anything happened. True or false? randome Nov 2012 #13
False bigmonkey Nov 2012 #51
The "evidence" we need is from the Manufacturers of the BBV. Prove they are Vincardog Nov 2012 #112
Without evidence, there is nothing to prove or disprove. randome Nov 2012 #124
I stand by my post. The lack of evidence is because the preps refuse to validate Vincardog Nov 2012 #126
Electronic voting is like the Internet itself, IMO. randome Nov 2012 #142
open yet secure, these are not two diametrically opposed ideals. Open Source Vincardog Nov 2012 #155
If open source was the sole answer, we would not have massive identify theft today. randome Nov 2012 #158
And anything that is cloaked in secrecy is open to be abused. Atman Nov 2012 #168
I'm not opposing anything! randome Nov 2012 #173
The receipt is POINTLESS. Atman Nov 2012 #189
I said the printed ballot would be dropped into a locked box. randome Nov 2012 #193
But what triggers a re-count? Atman Nov 2012 #227
Good post dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #280
Reliability is not the same problem as security. OS would guarantee the code WORKS Vincardog Nov 2012 #184
Whatever code they're using now apparently works and was not hacked. randome Nov 2012 #187
You absolutely do not know that. Atman Nov 2012 #233
+1 aquart Nov 2012 #140
Anon timeline? JaneyVee Nov 2012 #5
Shut up about what? Javaman Nov 2012 #8
It's not even 'anonymous' it's some wanker in a mask. geek tragedy Nov 2012 #37
Nah, it Was Karl Rove in the Fox green room with the Guy Fawkes mask RomneyLies Nov 2012 #56
If it did go down as described, the evidence deleted itself the instant after the evnt. Occulus Nov 2012 #157
+1000 Atman Nov 2012 #170
association is not evidence. Javaman Nov 2012 #295
yes, very suggestive of fire being covered up when the smoke is scoffed at. librechik Nov 2012 #9
Except there's no smoke. There's someone saying "Look! Smoke!" jeff47 Nov 2012 #62
I'm glad you weren't working on the Challenger mission librechik Nov 2012 #128
That's a really stupid analogy... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #181
really? I think it's stupid for one poster to imagine they can read the mind of another librechik Nov 2012 #186
Name-calling? You're the one who compared another DUer to incompetent engineers muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #231
It was not the engineers who decided to send Challenger up Demeter Nov 2012 #272
So you refer to someones analogy as "stupid" and you think this is going to help the conversation? louslobbs Nov 2012 #251
Nothing has been pointed out. jeff47 Nov 2012 #250
I find the theory plausible. I value Election Integrity above Party. IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #14
The difference is evidence. jeff47 Nov 2012 #73
I agree with you. Evidence is important. Ignoring evidence is the status quo. IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #89
+1000000 for bringing up Andy and his work- Thank you RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #94
Exactly. Thank you. aquart Nov 2012 #143
BOOM! Atman Nov 2012 #175
So you're now claiming that events in 2004 are evidence for what happened in 2012? jeff47 Nov 2012 #257
What did Rachael Maddow recently say? IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #275
The more they scream the more I want it discussed Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #15
KOS can do what he wants at his site Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #16
Lots of shit stirring ProSense Nov 2012 #18
You Better Believe It!!!! nt msanthrope Nov 2012 #159
RepublicansRZombies has been here about 90 days, not 30 (nt) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #232
K&R n/t Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #19
LOL. "won't let anyone talk about 9/11 either" cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #20
When they talk about Benghazi they sound crazy and lose credibility. Hamlette Nov 2012 #22
No rumor is true until it is officially denied Demeter Nov 2012 #23
Then anonymous is evil. jeff47 Nov 2012 #75
On the other hand Demeter Nov 2012 #101
How, exactly, would they counteract new voting machines with a recounted paper trail? jeff47 Nov 2012 #252
You also need a government of integrity to do the hole closing Demeter Nov 2012 #273
The problem is previous holes have not been shown to be real election-day vulnerabilities jeff47 Nov 2012 #283
When does the paper trail get examined? dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #281
There's a problem of scale jeff47 Nov 2012 #282
Scaling up a counting crew would be the least of our worries dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #286
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Why don't you try learning something about how this new fangled technology stuff werks! phleshdef Nov 2012 #26
"there are many of us with years of IT experience" RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #38
Its not a tactic. Its the last 15 years of my fucking life. phleshdef Nov 2012 #47
An anonymous email versus the contextual explanations of your fellow DUers. randome Nov 2012 #48
Actually, the experts explained it to you in plenty of detail. jeff47 Nov 2012 #70
So were those machines not connected to the internet... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #100
+10000000 RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #136
It depends on the system. Remember, the conspiracy theory is OH, FL and VA. jeff47 Nov 2012 #254
"The tabulators may or may not be on the Internet"... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #255
No, you need to actually read what I'm saying. jeff47 Nov 2012 #271
And there are many of us with years of IT experience... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #99
If you think there is something there, then you don't know shit and you are lying about IT exp. phleshdef Nov 2012 #125
Hackers use all sorts of terminology... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #137
Oh horse shit. Its not a case of "hackers using all sorts of terminology". phleshdef Nov 2012 #148
Unless, of course, they intentionally misrepresented their tactics, Occulus Nov 2012 #161
I'm so glad that I've already gone bald. phleshdef Nov 2012 #176
You are obviously a self-important boob... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #185
Bwahhahahah "boob". I'm not self important, I just KNOW what I'm talking about. phleshdef Nov 2012 #188
It is obvious that your reading comprehension needs some work... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #192
I'm dismissing the purported Anonymous letter out of hand. phleshdef Nov 2012 #198
Regarding ORCA... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #206
Please go read about what ORCA actually was. It wasn't anything fancy at all. phleshdef Nov 2012 #213
Again with the lack of reading comprehension... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #218
The (fake) Anonymous letter attempted to draw a connection between ORCA and vote rigging. phleshdef Nov 2012 #219
People who are afraid of any talk of conspiracies... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #222
I'm not afraid to talk of conspiracies and I don't deny that conspiracies have and do occur. phleshdef Nov 2012 #224
So did you notice the sh*t Husted was pulling this time? ljm2002 Nov 2012 #229
Of course I noticed it. But he wasn't nearly as successful as Blackwell. phleshdef Nov 2012 #238
"This kind of shit makes us look like flat earthers"... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #241
I prefer critical thinking to "feelings" when it comes to a claim cali Nov 2012 #29
Then please explain... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #30
It would have been 314 without Ohio, no? nt geek tragedy Nov 2012 #35
Basic logic Pbs1914 Nov 2012 #31
well said! "the simple fact that every possible angle to suppress votes was used by Karl Rove etc" RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #52
One can admit the possibility without swallowing this hypothesis... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #194
Begs the question: Why WOULDN'T they? joeunderdog Nov 2012 #277
yeah and duh marions ghost Nov 2012 #66
^== This. NT IdaBriggs Nov 2012 #92
Wrong Springslips Nov 2012 #240
Kos is CIA? naaman fletcher Nov 2012 #32
Kos himself says he applied to join the CIA but then changed his mind starroute Nov 2012 #141
thanks. nt naaman fletcher Nov 2012 #163
That's how the Birthers reacted when their similarly unsubstantiated geek tragedy Nov 2012 #34
I do have to admit, there is a HUGE difference between Fraudsters and Birthers RomneyLies Nov 2012 #40
Amazing how some people believe something just because they see it geek tragedy Nov 2012 #45
Or disbelieve something.. 99Forever Nov 2012 #55
I disbelieve it becaues there is no reason to believe it. geek tragedy Nov 2012 #81
Your opinion... 99Forever Nov 2012 #102
You do know that's the same thing Creationists say, right? randome Nov 2012 #105
More strawman bullshit from you? 99Forever Nov 2012 #110
How is your embrace of this conspiracy theory different than creationism or birtherism? nt geek tragedy Nov 2012 #133
How is ... 99Forever Nov 2012 #174
Dean Chambers, a polling blogger, is alleging voter fraud in 4 states with Republican governors. geek tragedy Nov 2012 #201
Did I ask you to? 99Forever Nov 2012 #212
No, the lack of evidence is a FACT. geek tragedy Nov 2012 #132
Code can delete itself immediately after execution, and it can do so without a trace. Occulus Nov 2012 #164
So you're supporting a 'maybe' with a 'can'. Like adding zeros together and expecting > 0. randome Nov 2012 #165
For someone that... 99Forever Nov 2012 #178
I have NO evidence that anything happened on election night. Do you? randome Nov 2012 #180
So... 99Forever Nov 2012 #200
Touchy, isn't he? randome Nov 2012 #204
And, totally unimpressive. nm Cha Nov 2012 #267
Wrong. 99Forever Nov 2012 #172
Please point to one fact proving that geek tragedy Nov 2012 #197
Please point to one fact proving that 99Forever Nov 2012 #215
Logical fallacy. Those making a claim are the ones who bear geek tragedy Nov 2012 #249
A lot of words, just to say... 99Forever Nov 2012 #270
I was sent by Central Corporate Command (CCC) to shut down discussion! alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #36
hee hee RomneyLies Nov 2012 #43
+1000000... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #199
So one random jackass claims they hacked Rove's hack, and it's a big story and coverup? snooper2 Nov 2012 #39
When you say 'scoop'... randome Nov 2012 #44
No, we don't need to see your "scoop." MineralMan Nov 2012 #144
Yep you got it madokie Nov 2012 #41
Ah yes, those who discount CT bullshit as CT bullshit are OBVIOUSLY IN ON THE CONSPIRACY!!! RomneyLies Nov 2012 #46
Why won't the government tell us the truth? MineralMan Nov 2012 #145
Don't forget Rove The Almighty has not yet weighed in on this issue. randome Nov 2012 #147
...and the utter absence of evidence only proves the conspiracy is working. regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #202
"You know you're over the target when you start taking flack." Hugin Nov 2012 #49
Anyone who has lived through the last 12 years in Ohio knows.... peace13 Nov 2012 #50
Thank you. Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #54
the same religious fervor that told us to shut up about social security-just wait and see RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #60
Yes, I bet kos was among that contingency also. He is so predictable. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #244
Exactly. Well said. nt truckin Nov 2012 #91
Meh, that's kind of immature isn't it? treestar Nov 2012 #57
It is a Fact that Karl Rove is a Shitty Deal!!! mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2012 #58
So the moon landing was fake? jeff47 Nov 2012 #61
Agreed. People like Debbie Wasserman-Schultz dissmissing (or laughing off) Phx_Dem Nov 2012 #63
+1000 n/t Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #74
This is making the Democrats look crazy gravity Nov 2012 #64
NO, this is people looking crazy and saying they are Dems Coyotl Nov 2012 #115
Bingo! regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #205
I have thought that as well... Myrina Nov 2012 #67
You forgot a third possibility. randome Nov 2012 #76
Same, predictable group, too. woo me with science Nov 2012 #234
I particularly find amusing the inclusion of swearing. Lighten up, Francises! WinkyDink Nov 2012 #68
In my mind, the reaction you are describing is only evidence that some people don't want to talk ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #69
If they don't want to talk about it, why do they start threads about it? RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #72
Good point. I should have said they don't want to credit the topic. nt ZombieHorde Nov 2012 #83
that is just the thing that has me wonder, why do they care so much if it is so discredited? RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #85
We need to be saved from the pending congelation of a falsehood Coyotl Nov 2012 #117
It's possible they did. I don't know. xfundy Nov 2012 #71
ONLY important issue is adressing the FACT that the machines are hackable. RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #80
Paper ballots with a verifiable chain of security byeya Nov 2012 #103
"verifiable chain of security" yes, also very important! Kathy Nickolaus taught us that one. RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #134
There are lots of important issues, and this is NOT one of them Coyotl Nov 2012 #121
Quoting Bev Harris may not get you any points here at DU starroute Nov 2012 #152
Quoting Bev Harris will get your entire argument summarily dismissed Occulus Nov 2012 #167
Meanwhile, when an unidentified person posts some bullshit, everyone asks for seconds Coyotl Nov 2012 #182
Why are you so 'concerned' about this? It was, up to the point where we started seeing this sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #191
Bev Harris is an authority on thes matters, like her personally or not Coyotl Nov 2012 #177
No, Bev Harris is a known grifter and fraud Occulus Nov 2012 #262
I'll make a note somewhere that you are the expert in this matter, the all knowing one. Coyotl Nov 2012 #263
I don't like her--she lied about Andy, she'll lie about anything. IMO. nt MADem Nov 2012 #292
Yes. It would be lovely if 2012 caused Republicans to send these stupid machines to landfill. aquart Nov 2012 #149
Meh, not really. Maybe they're just sick of talking about it. Taverner Nov 2012 #77
The level of effort to discredit a theory does make you think twice.... marions ghost Nov 2012 #78
Theories start with a modicum of evidence or facts. randome Nov 2012 #79
Well it sure got all the authoritarian third way and right wingers all upset. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #242
yes, that is what is so weird about it RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #88
So you'll draw a conclusion based simply on what bloggers are saying? TroglodyteScholar Nov 2012 #82
Or YOU could be a Republican/CIA here to discredit Kos Matariki Nov 2012 #84
Kos takes care of that all by himself, to free thinking liberals asking questions RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #104
While I don't think this particular reaction proves anything... ljm2002 Nov 2012 #86
Thus far, all we have is Anonymous' assertion. Where's the evidence that coalition_unwilling Nov 2012 #87
I personally don't believe a bunch of hackers did anything in this election. Gore1FL Nov 2012 #90
Wasn't sure whether to believe the Moon Landing Hoax story,until the reaction telling us to shut up muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #95
Brilliant! regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #208
+1000! Turn CO Blue Nov 2012 #258
I kicked Kos out of my line up long ago. n/t 2pooped2pop Nov 2012 #96
if you can't prove ejbr Nov 2012 #97
There are many things we will NEVER know. In a poker game, it's best to bluff than valerief Nov 2012 #98
I don't believe the Ohio Diebold machines can be hacked. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #106
Manditory audits of recorded votes vs paper votes is a must. Not sure if Ohio has that. yourout Nov 2012 #127
Paper ballots are logged and certified at the precinct.... JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #183
I doubt script kiddies living in their parents' basements can hack election machines. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #107
Anonymous is not just script kiddies living in their parents' basements starroute Nov 2012 #166
Yes, any time someone makes fun of an assertion, that means its TRUE! Warren DeMontague Nov 2012 #108
The idea that it was possible for the vote to be hacked Ford_Prefect Nov 2012 #111
"The best 'argument' the people who tell us to shut up about it have ..." Denzil_DC Nov 2012 #114
"Wishful thinking" seems to be the key here... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #211
If Anonymous had proof on Rove they would spill it. iandhr Nov 2012 #116
I don't put anything past them.... NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 #118
2012 ELECTION WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!! Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #119
There really is no evidence of this CT. Jennicut Nov 2012 #122
I can always tell that people are UP to something, when a group of people send a fake video to self Coyotl Nov 2012 #123
Ooh, that picture may come in so handy muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #237
Many limited hangout 'Democrats' (like Kos who was Republican/CIA?) are misleading the party. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #130
Wow, crazy is really taking off! n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #135
That's a pretty low evidentiary bar ya got there. n/t cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #138
All that is asked for is evidence, which has yet to be presented. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #150
"'Rove acted like an idiot on Fox News'" is NOT evidence." ProSense Nov 2012 #153
LOL, if Rove acting like an idiot is evidence of a conspiracy, NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #169
So far, this thread has become comic gold... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #214
Sigh... gcomeau Nov 2012 #171
Welcome to Freep Bizzaro World! NightOwwl Nov 2012 #179
Here's my take, for what's it's worth rightsideout Nov 2012 #195
CT deniers crack me up. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2012 #196
" Who on this board is delusional enough to try and pretend that conspiracy is not a substantial..." randome Nov 2012 #207
What a ridiculous comment ProSense Nov 2012 #209
Really? I thought it was one of my better ones. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2012 #220
Yep. Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #247
This whole thread backs up the original post. Eyes of the World Nov 2012 #203
Here's an interesting tidbit from Legal Schnauzer starroute Nov 2012 #210
Well, gee, that's a competing theory to the one that Anonymous is a collaboration between MADem Nov 2012 #216
Anonymous aside... peace13 Nov 2012 #221
I fear voter intimidation more than hackery, frankly. MADem Nov 2012 #228
Are you aware that Ohio votes were run through the RNC computers in 2004... peace13 Nov 2012 #246
You twisted that all wrong. Coyotl Nov 2012 #264
I beg to differ. peace13 Nov 2012 #285
And Simplicity is simplicity marions ghost Nov 2012 #256
And it doesn't mean that Anonymous isn't run by the CIA, either. MADem Nov 2012 #276
How I wish I could unrec intaglio Nov 2012 #243
The old 'CT' charge even when it does not apply. The real CT is to pretend that our elections and sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #245
If That is Your Methodology, On the Road Nov 2012 #253
Okay, I Confess! You got me... brooklynite Nov 2012 #266
We all spent time and money getting Democrats elected. We did so back sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #290
It May Be True, It May Not Be True colsohlibgal Nov 2012 #278
ANONYMOUS - WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE!!! warrprayer Nov 2012 #289
It's the Third Way, working hard to protect the Military Industrial Complex from democracy. Zorra Dec 2012 #298
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