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In reply to the discussion: Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction telling us to shut up @it [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)249. Logical fallacy. Those making a claim are the ones who bear
the burden of proof.
Moreover, Orca was a digitized strike list that involved thousands of people coming into contact with it. And it failed spectacularly.
The imposter in that web video was ignorant of what Orca actually was.
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Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction telling us to shut up @it [View all]
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
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I'll concede that. It was a little unclear to me on first reading that he only meant KOS and not DU.
randome
Nov 2012
#21
Thanks... the loss of neurons in me head causes me (and others!) no end of grief.
Melinda
Nov 2012
#25
What's this? "Markos Moulitsas: Fraudsters, take your shit elsewhere"
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#27
Thanks for starting this thread. I've felt that there are some strange attitudes at the Kos site
byeya
Nov 2012
#109
Because they don't want DU to become known as the home of gullible mouth-breathers?
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#223
"Wasn't sure whether to believe the Anonymous/Rove story,until the reaction..."
ProSense
Nov 2012
#3
Cenk has explained his transformation. He has never, that I am aware of, written about his
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#190
Again, you comparing people who are in no way comparable to kos, to someone who, hopefully
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#235
I am not "comparing" anyone at all. What I am endeavoring to point out is that we are a large party.
MADem
Nov 2012
#287
The Big Tent isn't an argument, though--it's the operative philosophy of the party.
MADem
Nov 2012
#291
Downloading that update has no effect. Installing that update does, and is much more complex.
jeff47
Nov 2012
#284
No, you're the one implying exit polls are infallible. My grandmother took statistics. (nt)
jeff47
Nov 2012
#269
Yes, I've read them, and they appear to be disconected from reality
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#259
"If this story is true, all that happened was essentially a validation of Obama's victory. "
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#12
Who is tryiing to lie to you? There is no evidence that anything happened. True or false?
randome
Nov 2012
#13
I stand by my post. The lack of evidence is because the preps refuse to validate
Vincardog
Nov 2012
#126
open yet secure, these are not two diametrically opposed ideals. Open Source
Vincardog
Nov 2012
#155
If open source was the sole answer, we would not have massive identify theft today.
randome
Nov 2012
#158
Reliability is not the same problem as security. OS would guarantee the code WORKS
Vincardog
Nov 2012
#184
If it did go down as described, the evidence deleted itself the instant after the evnt.
Occulus
Nov 2012
#157
really? I think it's stupid for one poster to imagine they can read the mind of another
librechik
Nov 2012
#186
Name-calling? You're the one who compared another DUer to incompetent engineers
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#231
So you refer to someones analogy as "stupid" and you think this is going to help the conversation?
louslobbs
Nov 2012
#251
I agree with you. Evidence is important. Ignoring evidence is the status quo.
IdaBriggs
Nov 2012
#89
So you're now claiming that events in 2004 are evidence for what happened in 2012?
jeff47
Nov 2012
#257
How, exactly, would they counteract new voting machines with a recounted paper trail?
jeff47
Nov 2012
#252
The problem is previous holes have not been shown to be real election-day vulnerabilities
jeff47
Nov 2012
#283
Why don't you try learning something about how this new fangled technology stuff werks!
phleshdef
Nov 2012
#26
If you think there is something there, then you don't know shit and you are lying about IT exp.
phleshdef
Nov 2012
#125
Bwahhahahah "boob". I'm not self important, I just KNOW what I'm talking about.
phleshdef
Nov 2012
#188
Please go read about what ORCA actually was. It wasn't anything fancy at all.
phleshdef
Nov 2012
#213
The (fake) Anonymous letter attempted to draw a connection between ORCA and vote rigging.
phleshdef
Nov 2012
#219
I'm not afraid to talk of conspiracies and I don't deny that conspiracies have and do occur.
phleshdef
Nov 2012
#224
well said! "the simple fact that every possible angle to suppress votes was used by Karl Rove etc"
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#52
I do have to admit, there is a HUGE difference between Fraudsters and Birthers
RomneyLies
Nov 2012
#40
How is your embrace of this conspiracy theory different than creationism or birtherism? nt
geek tragedy
Nov 2012
#133
Dean Chambers, a polling blogger, is alleging voter fraud in 4 states with Republican governors.
geek tragedy
Nov 2012
#201
Code can delete itself immediately after execution, and it can do so without a trace.
Occulus
Nov 2012
#164
So you're supporting a 'maybe' with a 'can'. Like adding zeros together and expecting > 0.
randome
Nov 2012
#165
I was sent by Central Corporate Command (CCC) to shut down discussion!
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2012
#36
So one random jackass claims they hacked Rove's hack, and it's a big story and coverup?
snooper2
Nov 2012
#39
Ah yes, those who discount CT bullshit as CT bullshit are OBVIOUSLY IN ON THE CONSPIRACY!!!
RomneyLies
Nov 2012
#46
...and the utter absence of evidence only proves the conspiracy is working.
regnaD kciN
Nov 2012
#202
the same religious fervor that told us to shut up about social security-just wait and see
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#60
I particularly find amusing the inclusion of swearing. Lighten up, Francises!
WinkyDink
Nov 2012
#68
In my mind, the reaction you are describing is only evidence that some people don't want to talk
ZombieHorde
Nov 2012
#69
If they don't want to talk about it, why do they start threads about it?
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#72
that is just the thing that has me wonder, why do they care so much if it is so discredited?
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#85
ONLY important issue is adressing the FACT that the machines are hackable.
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#80
"verifiable chain of security" yes, also very important! Kathy Nickolaus taught us that one.
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#134
Meanwhile, when an unidentified person posts some bullshit, everyone asks for seconds
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#182
Why are you so 'concerned' about this? It was, up to the point where we started seeing this
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#191
I'll make a note somewhere that you are the expert in this matter, the all knowing one.
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#263
Yes. It would be lovely if 2012 caused Republicans to send these stupid machines to landfill.
aquart
Nov 2012
#149
Well it sure got all the authoritarian third way and right wingers all upset.
sabrina 1
Nov 2012
#242
So you'll draw a conclusion based simply on what bloggers are saying?
TroglodyteScholar
Nov 2012
#82
Kos takes care of that all by himself, to free thinking liberals asking questions
RepublicansRZombies
Nov 2012
#104
Thus far, all we have is Anonymous' assertion. Where's the evidence that
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#87
Wasn't sure whether to believe the Moon Landing Hoax story,until the reaction telling us to shut up
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#95
There are many things we will NEVER know. In a poker game, it's best to bluff than
valerief
Nov 2012
#98
Manditory audits of recorded votes vs paper votes is a must. Not sure if Ohio has that.
yourout
Nov 2012
#127
I doubt script kiddies living in their parents' basements can hack election machines.
Odin2005
Nov 2012
#107
Yes, any time someone makes fun of an assertion, that means its TRUE!
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2012
#108
I can always tell that people are UP to something, when a group of people send a fake video to self
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#123
Many limited hangout 'Democrats' (like Kos who was Republican/CIA?) are misleading the party.
AlbertCat
Nov 2012
#130
" Who on this board is delusional enough to try and pretend that conspiracy is not a substantial..."
randome
Nov 2012
#207
Well, gee, that's a competing theory to the one that Anonymous is a collaboration between
MADem
Nov 2012
#216