Reply #188

In the discussion thread: The Democratic Party is walking on thin ice.... [View all]

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 03:09 PM

188. You are exactly right. I see a coming 10 year battle to get everything Progressives want.

But we won't get those things in one big chunk. We need to settle for 3/4, show that republicans were wrong, then take 4/5 the next time we have them against the wall, which will come after the 2014 mid-terms if we play our cards right. If we are disciplined, by 2024, we would have implemented all the change we need and the nation will be far better off because of us winning the long fight.

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The Democratic Party is walking on thin ice.... [View all]	kentuck	Nov 2012	OP
I am not quite as discouraged as you are	hollysmom	Nov 2012	#1
I wish they consulted with him -- even just to have another viewpoint on	gateley	Nov 2012	#27
Agreed	liberalmike27	Nov 2012	#57
If you think David gregory is a liberal	DonCoquixote	Nov 2012	#151
"managing liberalism to the point where it does not threaten the powers that be"	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#159
Verywell said. Thank you. n/t	truedelphi	Nov 2012	#202
I just got done...	butterfly77	Nov 2012	#94
Agree -- I've contacted my reps, too, just saying WE call the shots, now, don't back down!	gateley	Nov 2012	#137
wish...	kardonb	Nov 2012	#100
Did you mean to respond to my post?	gateley	Nov 2012	#138
The President needs to use Krugman as an economic adviser. nt	ladjf	Nov 2012	#177
You are aware that the new Congress won't take office until next year?	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#2
There is no need for him to be making any concessions....	kentuck	Nov 2012	#4
You know, I don't remember him making any concessions.	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#16
If you wait until it's done, it's too late. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#105
If you assume that he will do it, with no indication that he will,	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#111
Assume the best and be slaughtered along with the rest of the sheep.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#117
My friend, you're welcome to your point of view, but	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#119
Yeah, I don't share his negativity and I think the President knows what to do.	xtraxritical	Nov 2012	#122
And you are free to ignore what has gone before and pretend that it won't again.	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#145
Who appointed the members of the Cat-Food Commission?	AnotherMcIntosh	Nov 2012	#127
I know of no Commission with that particular name.	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#132
You are unfamiliar with the "Cat-Food Commission"? Really?	AnotherMcIntosh	Nov 2012	#139
Ya think?	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#146
Actually we have lots of indication that he will	Doctor_J	Nov 2012	#164
The great majority of which is the same as the new one. n/t	PoliticAverse	Nov 2012	#31
As is usually the case. Only a third of the Senate is up every two years,	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#49
I thought we blew it last time	AgingAmerican	Nov 2012	#3
I second that motion.	go west young man	Nov 2012	#86
And not enough of us were out there still campaigning for our core values. Yes you would think our	Overseas	Nov 2012	#204
Nothing has happened yet.	ProSense	Nov 2012	#5
I think people are pissed off at the language and the actions of many Democrats...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#7
"Why are we so quick to soothe their hurt feelings?"	randome	Nov 2012	#19
+++1,000 recs	JohnnyRingo	Nov 2012	#62
You cant compromise with terrorists. Republicans are terrorists. nm	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#69
No, people hate it when you pretend to talk sense, but it actually isn't.	Hissyspit	Nov 2012	#124
and Clinton even worked with Newt	brokechris	Nov 2012	#169
no, it's not, & there is no deal that needs to be made before Jan.	HiPointDem	Nov 2012	#81
+1 nt	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#84
Obama said "elections have consequences and I won" to a bunch of republicans	Sekhmets Daughter	Nov 2012	#28
We would all like to think so...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#30
I wish ya'll would just listen to yourselves....	Sekhmets Daughter	Nov 2012	#36
What did anyone expect from this election?	kentuck	Nov 2012	#39
Honestly.	Sekhmets Daughter	Nov 2012	#51
Or tin foil! n/t	sheshe2	Nov 2012	#87
I was trying to be polite	Sekhmets Daughter	Nov 2012	#95
It's been SEVEN FREAKING DAYS and Congress isn't even in session yet! WHAT do you want???	George II	Nov 2012	#52
Exactly!	kentuck	Nov 2012	#63
Name names or STFU	emulatorloo	Nov 2012	#90
Did you see Schumer on C-SPAN?	kentuck	Nov 2012	#93
I'm getting more noise from you than signal	emulatorloo	Nov 2012	#99
Here is a post from a couple of hours ago...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#102
Thanks! I edited my post above to clarify.	emulatorloo	Nov 2012	#104
I agree with you that the Repubs have nothing...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#110
I don't really know what you're talking about, they're just talking generalities, did you hear...	George II	Nov 2012	#141
Did you see Obama's comments today, or his press secretary's comments?	George II	Nov 2012	#148
But he has yet to prove it.	AlbertCat	Nov 2012	#135
Can you provide examples?	demwing	Nov 2012	#33
Just HOW are we "so quick to soothe their hurt feeling"???	George II	Nov 2012	#44
I think YOU are pissed off, but not many other "people" are pissed off...you're projecting	George II	Nov 2012	#149
If we wait until it's done, it will be too late. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#107
And what have they done since last Tuesday?	sinkingfeeling	Nov 2012	#6
Exactly.	young but wise	Nov 2012	#14
They haven't ...	1StrongBlackMan	Nov 2012	#15
Nothing....and that is worrisome....	Sekhmets Daughter	Nov 2012	#29
I wonder how these people who want to tread lightly will feel when Republicans,...	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2012	#78
I'll withhold rage until there's a reason for it... nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Nov 2012	#8
I would prefer to let them know how I feel right now...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#10
Then let them know. They aren't reading DU, I'm sure.	MineralMan	Nov 2012	#17
Have you written to your congressman or senator? Or just posting on DU will get it done?	George II	Nov 2012	#155
what mandate?	underoath	Nov 2012	#9
332 - 206	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#11
You're not understanding me though.	underoath	Nov 2012	#162
Why would it matter?	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#163
but less of one than he had in 2008!!!	underoath	Nov 2012	#165
He has every bit as much of a mandate as GWB	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#167
Because lower numbers means less of a mandate.	underoath	Nov 2012	#168
Who cares besides you and	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#170
I care because people are talking as if Obama won by a larger margin this time when he did not!!!	underoath	Nov 2012	#174
I get it and think it's silly	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#190
Your concern is noted	underoath	Nov 2012	#195
That's the 5th time you've posted that	Kingofalldems	Nov 2012	#172
because people dont realize that there is less of a mandate now than there was before.	underoath	Nov 2012	#173
So what do you want us to do?	Kingofalldems	Nov 2012	#176
stop talking about how there is a mandate.	underoath	Nov 2012	#182
No...	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#191
Who the hell cares about bush?	underoath	Nov 2012	#196
In 2004 GWB announced he had a mandate	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#194
Who cares about what bush thought he had.	underoath	Nov 2012	#197
GWB was wrong.	Telly Savalas	Nov 2012	#211
But Obama isn't.	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#213
How many times can you post the same thing?	Kingofalldems	Nov 2012	#171
A dirty little secret of Nov 6th 2012 -	truedelphi	Nov 2012	#203
exactly. So like I said, President Obama had more of a mandate in 2008 than he does today.	underoath	Nov 2012	#207
OBAMA HAS A MANDATE - way more than W's appointment by the court or	Care Acutely	Nov 2012	#154
Less of a mandate now than he had in 2008.	underoath	Nov 2012	#166
That doesn't mean he has no mandate.	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#192
How does it mean he has a mandate?	underoath	Nov 2012	#198
Because....	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#199
What mandate? Because bush said he had one so now we must make sure everyone knows	underoath	Nov 2012	#206
I didn't dispute that.	ohheckyeah	Nov 2012	#210
I agree. O shows an inclination to throw it all away on Compromises and Syria-Iran.	leveymg	Nov 2012	#12
This is so discouraging.	kentuck	Nov 2012	#13
We all projected our own hopes for change onto him. This has happened twice, already.	leveymg	Nov 2012	#18
The lame duck session of all three branches of government is going to be hard to watch until January	Cleita	Nov 2012	#20
The President said this morning...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#21
Like I said it's going to be hard to watch until January	Cleita	Nov 2012	#24
Eric(Anal Leakage) Cantor	The Wizard	Nov 2012	#115
the payroll tax cuts shouldn't be extended.	BlueMan Votes	Nov 2012	#92
The Republicans are walking on thin ice	gravity	Nov 2012	#22
Yes.	kentuck	Nov 2012	#23
Because Americans want compromise	gravity	Nov 2012	#25
Americans do not want compromise. Americans want an improved economy.	yardwork	Nov 2012	#34
Americans want a balanced approach to fixing the economy	gravity	Nov 2012	#66
You are mistaken. Americans are not interested in the process. They are interested in outcomes.	yardwork	Nov 2012	#70
Well said, yardwork.	kentuck	Nov 2012	#72
Then stop attacking Obama on the process	gravity	Nov 2012	#157
What? Where have I attacked Obama? Nice accusation there.	yardwork	Nov 2012	#158
No, YOU stop telling people to shut up about important policies	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#212
Yes "balanced approach", like cutting defense spending and taxing the wealthy. NOT REDUCE SS AND	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#71
You mean like in 2010?	Doctor_J	Nov 2012	#140
I agree with you.	hrmjustin	Nov 2012	#26
+1	treestar	Nov 2012	#60
Don't say that. We're supposed to ignore the Republicans and just shit on Democrats.	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#82
You're right, Kentuck.	yardwork	Nov 2012	#32
We've already won for the next four years	The Second Stone	Nov 2012	#35
No, we've won for the next 12 - 16 months at best. Failing to press that advantage to good purpose	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#109
I don't know what you are talking about.	elleng	Nov 2012	#37
Just one week since election day	mac56	Nov 2012	#38
I was thinking the exact same thing lol	Lilyeye	Nov 2012	#153
It is the eternal need of some for perfect purity. Like voting for Nader in Florida 2000.	bluestate10	Nov 2012	#184
why	loyalkydem	Nov 2012	#40
Post-election analysis	NHDEMFORLIFE	Nov 2012	#41
Good advice but....	kentuck	Nov 2012	#46
I agree	NHDEMFORLIFE	Nov 2012	#73
Got anything specific about their actions, words, proposed compromise, etc?	George II	Nov 2012	#42
NOBODY	WilliamPitt	Nov 2012	#43
Good advice.	2naSalit	Nov 2012	#56
Seriously.	Jennicut	Nov 2012	#76
Those of us who don't want a mass murder compromise enacted can't afford that	eridani	Nov 2012	#205
the Republicans never hesitate to claim a mandate - no matter what and move aggressively. Democrats	Douglas Carpenter	Nov 2012	#45
Hear hear!! Exactly my sentiments.	Missn-Hitch	Nov 2012	#47
It'd be great if the Dems could rule by fiat.	JohnnyRingo	Nov 2012	#48
The OP is proposing that we get ready to sit on our asses in 2014 and give republicans	bluestate10	Nov 2012	#186
I have been working a lot.	JNelson6563	Nov 2012	#50
Nothing has happened. Other than the pre-emptive frothing that happens on occasion on DU. nt	bluestate10	Nov 2012	#187
Oh hell...	zaj	Nov 2012	#53
Just don't deny that this feeling is there...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#54
This message was self-deleted by its author	AtomicKitten	Nov 2012	#55
The Democratic Party did not get the House back	treestar	Nov 2012	#58
To get the HOR back we need to stand firm like the people want.	rhett o rick	Nov 2012	#74
they need to look at 2010	evilhime	Nov 2012	#59
So you think 2010 a good thing?	treestar	Nov 2012	#61
you	heaven05	Nov 2012	#64
Stop it just Stop the noise!	sheshe2	Nov 2012	#65
Well it's been a week	sharp_stick	Nov 2012	#67
I will not take getting ...	99Forever	Nov 2012	#68
The Right Wing wants you to fear them. The only authority they have is what you give them.	Spitfire of ATJ	Nov 2012	#75
I'm confused. Did I miss something in the news?	drm604	Nov 2012	#77
No, they aren't.	NYC Liberal	Nov 2012	#79
Yes, it's best if...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#83
I have no fucking clue what or who you are talking about	emulatorloo	Nov 2012	#80
The	John2	Nov 2012	#97
I love this discussion	RepublicansRZombies	Nov 2012	#85
This is the way I see it!	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#88
Exactly!	kentuck	Nov 2012	#91
The rebublics are the one on the edge...	ProudProgressiveNow	Nov 2012	#98
If not now, when? Will we get action or the usual "compromises" and excuses?	Tierra_y_Libertad	Nov 2012	#89
Agreed	Hutzpa	Nov 2012	#96
Off the cliff.	JEB	Nov 2012	#101
The fiscal cliff	JEB	Nov 2012	#103
It has always been	billh58	Nov 2012	#106
What's a PUMA? All I get from the urban dictionary is a pre-menopausal woman?	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#113
During the Primary Elections	billh58	Nov 2012	#120
OIC, thank you. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#143
Republicans are still delusional	Aerows	Nov 2012	#108
How did asking the Republicans	The Wizard	Nov 2012	#112
+1 I like how you're thinking. n/t	Egalitarian Thug	Nov 2012	#114
Perfect recount of how things have proceeded	JEB	Nov 2012	#144
Oh, you're definitely not alone	Oilwellian	Nov 2012	#147
Reid: We Agree On How To Resolve 97-98 Percent Of Fiscal Cliff	ProSense	Nov 2012	#116
I agree.	Autumn	Nov 2012	#118
Totally disagree	horsedoc	Nov 2012	#121
That sounds like a FOX analogy...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#125
Here's the thing. A major motivator behind the independant vote was they saw Obama	Ed Suspicious	Nov 2012	#123
You are exactly right. I see a coming 10 year battle to get everything Progressives want.	bluestate10	Nov 2012	#188
Oh please... like others have said, nothing has happened yet. Also	OKNancy	Nov 2012	#126
The future is now...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#129
Fancy saying, but also an empty one. Moderate and Independent voters gave the President his	bluestate10	Nov 2012	#189
Damn	lillypaddle	Nov 2012	#128
You're right...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#130
Calm down already.	babylonsister	Nov 2012	#131
I will look for your posts in a couple of weeks...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#133
One of my pet slogans is...	babylonsister	Nov 2012	#134
It's a dirty job...	kentuck	Nov 2012	#136
Kick&Recommended...	butterfly77	Nov 2012	#142
"They are about to piss away the next election ...	Summer Hathaway	Nov 2012	#150
with you on this. too many true believers star-gazing with happy smiles, for comfort.	marasinghe	Nov 2012	#152
Doesn't it seem early for turds in the punch bowl?	AtheistCrusader	Nov 2012	#156
I agree! ..... THX for posting that!	meti57b	Nov 2012	#160
K&R	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#161
More kabuki.	Octafish	Nov 2012	#175
huh?	Dyedinthewoolliberal	Nov 2012	#178
the next election is less than two years away....	madrchsod	Nov 2012	#179
Almost nothing they do for the next 6-10 months matters very much toward the next election.	hughee99	Nov 2012	#180
I have no illusions. I voted for the Supreme Court which is significant. I also am not as clear as	still_one	Nov 2012	#181
There you go again. What democrats need is for us to give them unchallenged control of the	bluestate10	Nov 2012	#183
Link please?	NightOwwl	Nov 2012	#185
Here's what I think Kentuck is saying	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2012	#193
Obama, Axelrod and the rest know what they're doing.	rudycantfail	Nov 2012	#200
Yup, I'm afraid that their caving in is by design rather than by ineptness	Lydia Leftcoast	Nov 2012	#201
+100000000	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#208
K&R	woo me with science	Nov 2012	#209

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