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RKP5637

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53. I find most of humanity pretty stupid, so I don't think America has the only leading role when
Mon Nov 19, 2012, 09:43 AM
Nov 2012

it comes to STUPID.

Are You Dumber than an American? [View all] unhappycamper Nov 2012 OP
despite the total lack of common sense and evidence? Flashmann Nov 2012 #1
The problem is ubiquitous even on DU. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #138
It's not satire and it's not funny AlbertCat Nov 2012 #152
maybe it's not funny to YOU- but a LOT of others seem to like it. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #177
I absolutely agree! ReRe Nov 2012 #164
Why can't you choose to simply not watch it and allow those that EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #272
Whew.... I hit a nerve... ReRe Nov 2012 #274
No, hardly. I'm just tolerant of other EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #276
I think you did use the word "petty", no? ReRe Nov 2012 #277
P.S. ReRe Nov 2012 #278
P.S.S. ReRe Nov 2012 #279
Welcome. You have a Happy Thanksgiving as well. EmeraldCityGrl Nov 2012 #290
Oh, come on. I'm from the South and I find that hilarious. redgreenandblue Nov 2012 #292
what a stupid article. yeah, all americans are stupid except for "the brilliant elite". HiPointDem Nov 2012 #2
I think you misinterpreted the description. It isn't that the American elite are brilliant, rather Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #4
use of definite rather than indefinite article suggests otherwise. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #5
It is a translation done by a volunteer from Swedish. But if you want to get all freaked out by it, Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #10
well then all bets are off. do you read swedish? because all we have is the english HiPointDem Nov 2012 #12
I found the original DFW Nov 2012 #20
thank you. "av" is what is translated as "beside"? what are the various senses of "av"? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #27
"av" means "Of" Demeter Nov 2012 #46
google translates the sentence in question as: HiPointDem Nov 2012 #52
Point of the article demonstrated above. liberalmuse Nov 2012 #84
care to expound on what you find so stupid? or perhaps contribute your own summary? HiPointDem Nov 2012 #88
LoPointDem would be a better handle for you. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #139
unfortunately, i'm unable to respond in kind. some posters are allowed to HiPointDem Nov 2012 #218
be careful with google translate thesquanderer Nov 2012 #149
i appreciate dfw's translation, which clarified the passage. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #161
"European Sport". Really? All europeans do this? Lars77 Nov 2012 #72
about as many as there are stupid americans... HiPointDem Nov 2012 #97
70 years ago now treestar Nov 2012 #96
28 million dead Russians may disagree with your post. go west young man Nov 2012 #187
The thing about accusing people who criticise you of having sibelian Nov 2012 #263
I married a Swede Demeter Nov 2012 #275
Swedish is very easy for an English-speaking person to learn DFW Nov 2012 #111
thank you. i appreciate the discussion of the individual words. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #117
Nice post!! I just saw it after posting my own attempt at translation through German. n/t xocet Nov 2012 #123
Greetings...(now to the "I'm not an expert, but I play one on the internet"-segment of the thread) xocet Nov 2012 #121
See my dissection above (post 111) DFW Nov 2012 #134
Thanks. xocet Nov 2012 #159
There are a LOT of similarities in the basics of German and Swedish DFW Nov 2012 #162
That is really cool. I need to check out Swedish grammar. xocet Nov 2012 #173
Have I ever been to Belgium? DFW Nov 2012 #179
You must have a very interesting existence - I won't ask what you do.... xocet Nov 2012 #217
The Sächsisch dialect is from the area of Leipzig. defacto7 Nov 2012 #223
just for a note defacto7 Nov 2012 #224
"Sächsisch" just means "Saxon" DFW Nov 2012 #260
I deal with Americans every day. It's rare to find one that can speak in complete sentences Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #35
what "we do as a nation" has nothing to do with the intelligence of individual HiPointDem Nov 2012 #42
You didn't even read it, did you? Enjoy your outrage. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #43
your post? i read every word. i'm not outraged. you appear to be the outraged HiPointDem Nov 2012 #45
I thought this paragraph made a good point. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #47
i think it's pretty easy not to to so. i think israel, as a nation, does plenty of shitty HiPointDem Nov 2012 #57
Which one of those nations has a military equal to the rest of the planet combined? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #59
none, but that seems to me irrelevant. or perhaps relevant in this way: if they did, HiPointDem Nov 2012 #60
And because most hegemons have acted that way it's not amazingly dumbass? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #66
how many other places have you lived? it's not that different from anywhere else. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #68
Try not paying attention to that stuff and then having social conversation with people Fumesucker Nov 2012 #73
i haven't found it such a terrible minefield if i discuss rather than lecture (contrary HiPointDem Nov 2012 #80
More listening, less lecturing. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #140
yes. as i acknowledge. du is not real life. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #143
Or try not watching television and carrying on a conversation with the majority Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #178
Yeah, that was my point Fumesucker Nov 2012 #183
You got me. I skipped over a lot of the rant. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #185
That is absurd. grantcart Nov 2012 #294
i've heard the "only in..." line from people from every country that i've met. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #302
"Only in America" refers to a Horatio Alger type rags-to-riches story. Not generosity. Romulox Nov 2012 #309
Are you including yourself and your family in your stereotype? lalalu Nov 2012 #87
none of the people on this thread are the dumb ones, of course. the dumb ones HiPointDem Nov 2012 #99
I just find it interesting that lalalu Nov 2012 #100
If only you could see how far off the mark you are Fumesucker Nov 2012 #141
Myself, no. Most of my family, most definitely. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #175
No exceptions, this is stereotyping all Americans. lalalu Nov 2012 #191
Nice try, but this pathetic attempt to re-write what was written to suit your defense will not fly. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #194
You reread. lalalu Nov 2012 #197
And another fail from the outraged illiterate. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #199
When you can't defend your position then personal attacks are all you have. lalalu Nov 2012 #202
I provided the evidentiary quotation in the reply. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #221
How ironic that you are the one behaving like a dumb American. lalalu Nov 2012 #234
I know you are, but what am I? Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #235
I just told you what you are. lalalu Nov 2012 #236
I know you are, but what am I? Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #237
It's "rare" to find an American who can speak in complete sentences? What does that say about cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #215
do you read swedish AlbertCat Nov 2012 #153
hardly. it's a function of location and economics, nothing to do with intelligence. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #158
Swedish is tricky with its articles DFW Nov 2012 #14
Here you are. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #36
The Scand. languages have also conveniently simplified verb conjugations Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #124
Verbs are a joy for sure, no conjugation at all DFW Nov 2012 #136
I was gonna mention the subjunctive Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #151
Oh, yeah. DFW Nov 2012 #156
I was sorta aware of ðat. Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #165
If you can really read the runes, kudos DFW Nov 2012 #168
I wrote this: Jackpine Radical Nov 2012 #169
OK, now I'm REALLY impressed! DFW Nov 2012 #171
Making their point indeed! elleng Nov 2012 #145
Brilliant people are not necessarily FlaGranny Nov 2012 #17
My reply was badly worded, or at least not specific enough. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #41
What exactly are you pissed about?.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #15
i'm not pissed. i think the article's stupid, at least the title & excerpt i read in HiPointDem Nov 2012 #49
I too have lived and billh58 Nov 2012 #69
i understand where it comes from as well. it comes from selective media reports, HiPointDem Nov 2012 #76
Right you are brush Nov 2012 #83
Exactly lalalu Nov 2012 #98
That is not what was said. gcomeau Nov 2012 #110
You may be right. However, in which country is it that average citizens don't HiPointDem Nov 2012 #119
None of them. Not the point at all. gcomeau Nov 2012 #132
sweden 1st ventured into neoliberalization decades ago, and not just in ed. not something new, e.g. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #160
You quibble and miss the big picture: Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #144
Martin Bashir has a commercial where he basically says: Whisp Nov 2012 #252
smug and stupid article. cali Nov 2012 #3
She said in a sweeping generalization Fumesucker Nov 2012 #21
really? so you actually think that sweeping generalizations are an intelligent way cali Nov 2012 #25
And Palestinians are violent Fumesucker Nov 2012 #31
Really? I don't see Cali making that assertion & I don't see her name on the link you provided. whathehell Nov 2012 #89
The link I provided was to a DUer calling Palestinians "naturally violent" Fumesucker Nov 2012 #91
Um, yeah, whatever. whathehell Nov 2012 #127
I had it to start with and I think you're wrong Fumesucker Nov 2012 #128
I think not, and even if what you say about Cali is true, whathehell Nov 2012 #189
Example of sweeping generalization by cali Fumesucker Nov 2012 #324
"rarely" is a qualifier. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #29
It's still a sweeping generalization Fumesucker Nov 2012 #33
however, it has the merit of truth value. which the propositon that americans are HiPointDem Nov 2012 #37
I just find it humorous that cali of all people denounces sweeping generalizations Fumesucker Nov 2012 #44
hmm. you may have a point there. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #50
+1. Ironically, it's one of those OPs that sufrommich Nov 2012 #40
LOL. whathehell Nov 2012 #81
Agree 100% lalalu Nov 2012 #203
Television, the drug of the nation. Breeding ignorance, fear, and anti-intellectualism. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #6
Yep. No country in the world has the superior marketing strategies of the U.S. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #63
and I guess no other country in the world has television either. whathehell Nov 2012 #82
And you guessed wrong. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #104
Oh my. I guess I should remember that sarcasm thingy. whathehell Nov 2012 #109
they have it, but they never watch it. well, not very much. oh wait - HiPointDem Nov 2012 #106
have you seen commercials in other countries? they do just fine. they have all the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #103
Yes, actually I *have* seen commercials in the other countries of the world. Lived in some of. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #108
there may be a real journalism still alive in europe, i actually don't know. but the right HiPointDem Nov 2012 #113
Wage slaves in Europe BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #122
.... HiPointDem Nov 2012 #163
There's a difference between Guest Workers and your average German employee. BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #251
Love the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy reference. nt OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #135
There aren't many of us that recognize that, although since LCD displays have become nearly Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #174
I've got the four song EP/maxi single OnyxCollie Nov 2012 #182
I'm thinking of Theodore White's first book: ewagner Nov 2012 #7
+1 nt laundry_queen Nov 2012 #8
Indeed we have become consumers instead of citizens. mountain grammy Nov 2012 #107
I was hoping this was a TV show. -nt- DireStrike Nov 2012 #9
LOL! +1 Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #11
No, because I grew up in Massachusetts, or as the Tea Party calls it "The most liberal Country in pam4water Nov 2012 #13
DURec x2 vancouverite Nov 2012 #16
I love this country. brokechris Nov 2012 #18
Re: Palin--the "exist" wasn't meant to be taken literally DFW Nov 2012 #133
I didn't know you wrote the article brokechris Nov 2012 #180
I didn't know you read Swedish DFW Nov 2012 #216
I'm actually much smarter than the average American tavalon Nov 2012 #19
if you long to be a Canadian brokechris Nov 2012 #23
Because I'm poly with an autistic child tavalon Nov 2012 #30
if they want you and you can brokechris Nov 2012 #39
I spent years trying to find that way tavalon Nov 2012 #195
"poly" = ? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #146
While it's currently going to hell in a handbasket, tavalon Nov 2012 #192
Ah, thanks. Know of polyamory; please use the word not the abbreviation except in contexts Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #230
Yeah, you're right tavalon Nov 2012 #232
Vancouver is wonderful... BobTheSubgenius Nov 2012 #222
Currently living in one of the most expensive places in the US tavalon Nov 2012 #233
If they don't want your family, why would you want to move there? Dr. Strange Nov 2012 #258
discussion groups are poor places to explain the intricacies of a situation such as mine. tavalon Nov 2012 #267
.Well, thanks for telling us that, Tav, especially since it's not especially apparent. whathehell Nov 2012 #105
Please... for the love of all that is good and just... be joking. ElboRuum Nov 2012 #118
Yes, I had hoped for the same whathehell Nov 2012 #126
Vancouver specifically tavalon Nov 2012 #196
I doubt that will be far enough. ElboRuum Nov 2012 #205
Does my expressing an opinion offend you in some way? tavalon Nov 2012 #207
Well, I guess it depends on how you express it, now doesn't it? ElboRuum Nov 2012 #243
Did you not get the part where it's merely a pipe dream and not going to happen? tavalon Nov 2012 #268
"Pipe" dream. Ah, clever... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #280
Well, you are bright if not kind. tavalon Nov 2012 #308
I've found that people who talk like that, Union Scribe Nov 2012 #214
+ 10 whathehell Nov 2012 #316
Home schooling BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #22
You said it, and you said it well! mountain grammy Nov 2012 #92
As long as our News Media is allowed to oldbanjo Nov 2012 #24
no more so than any other nation. you have the educated and uneducated. the curious, seabeyond Nov 2012 #26
yep. no difference. i heard palinesque stuff 30 years ago from a pair of canadians HiPointDem Nov 2012 #32
Oh, so now you think anecdotal evidence proves sweeping generalizations. Logic much? Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #147
not at all. where did i say such a thing? but you know, there's a logical gap from "half the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #172
The half that voted for Romney sure do drag the average down severely. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #176
Thank you. Like many others here, I get very tired of the obligatory Five Minutes of Self Hate. whathehell Nov 2012 #193
Appealing to America's ignorance and gullibility The Wizard Nov 2012 #28
yep. most of the memes come from the "brilliant elite" themselves, and are used HiPointDem Nov 2012 #34
Fundamentalist Christians BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #38
I've tried to make it through watching Idiocracy, but never have, one of my failings in RKP5637 Nov 2012 #54
A barely mediocre comedy staring Luke Wilson. Dash87 Nov 2012 #181
You're right, as a comedic film it is awful. But, as a social commentary, and possible Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #186
Perhaps Ms. Thug . whathehell Nov 2012 #286
None taken, and I have always, on occasion, enjoyed a little pain. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #305
So you're a masochist? whathehell Nov 2012 #306
Hey, I'm a really left liberal, intellectual, and a member of DU. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #312
Hmm... davidthegnome Nov 2012 #48
Years before my wife and I got together chemenger Nov 2012 #51
you know something? brokechris Nov 2012 #55
"Stupid and self-centered"? whathehell Nov 2012 #125
I can't disagree with anything you've stated in your response, however chemenger Nov 2012 #129
I find most of humanity pretty stupid, so I don't think America has the only leading role when RKP5637 Nov 2012 #53
+1000000 It's not an American issue... dionysus Nov 2012 #204
Ah, yes, the sensible Swedes, for whom child porn was legal until 1999. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #56
To paraphrase George Carlin. . . . ncgrits Nov 2012 #58
and where do you stand in this hierarchy of smartness? as you are standing back HiPointDem Nov 2012 #65
HA! I would like to think that I am in the top 1/2, but doing so probably qualifies me ncgrits Nov 2012 #130
Forgive me Arcanetrance Nov 2012 #61
No "forgiveness" needed whathehell Nov 2012 #190
For all the consternation the Swedish author is causing in this thread, I have to get a CTyankee Nov 2012 #62
The author makes a very smart point. Barack_America Nov 2012 #74
I thought so too. I just can't understand the utter outrage here about what she wrote in this CTyankee Nov 2012 #77
If she had inserted "conservative" in the title we'd all be applauding this. Barack_America Nov 2012 #79
I tuned in on precisely that vibe from her. CTyankee Nov 2012 #86
Rather than ask "where to begin", you might want to aks "Where to end". whathehell Nov 2012 #259
It's great that we have elected a person of color to President, yes and good for us! CTyankee Nov 2012 #262
Yes, it is and of course I know that it's not "everything", and as a progressive democrat whathehell Nov 2012 #264
I feel that we are "evolving" on the social programs faster than we have on the CTyankee Nov 2012 #266
People vote where they think they're given an actual choice Fumesucker Nov 2012 #273
that observation gripped me too. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2012 #154
What many under a certain age don't realize is that this idiocy, this "rejection of science", etc. whathehell Nov 2012 #310
Very true treestar Nov 2012 #101
Stupid people do the bidding of the plutocrats. Barack_America Nov 2012 #114
Oh, that apocalyptic dialect, really gets me ElboRuum Nov 2012 #142
lol. yeah, it's all those stupid people serving as worker bees and managerial personnel in the HiPointDem Nov 2012 #170
You might consider reading the post I was responding to... Barack_America Nov 2012 #184
+1000 noiretextatique Nov 2012 #167
I was wondering why the Frisbee was getting bigger. aandegoons Nov 2012 #64
LOL RKP5637 Nov 2012 #67
Stupid sells. Barack_America Nov 2012 #70
Only in America is the film Idiocracy not considered a satire. nt valerief Nov 2012 #71
Americans aren't "stupid" Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #75
i agree with the general thrust but i'd just like to say that america never scored HiPointDem Nov 2012 #102
Thanks Liberal1975 Nov 2012 #120
"I stand by my theory that we are much more disillusioned than stupid." I agree. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #166
US became most powerful economy in large part by attracting highly educated intelligent immigrants. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #148
Interesting discussion, lots of defensiveness. Maineman Nov 2012 #78
Lighten up! denvine Nov 2012 #85
Margaret Thatcher, Sarkozy, soccer riots, Greek rightwing extremists, lalalu Nov 2012 #90
Thank you. Although I've learned to expect a lot of knee-jerk anti-Americanism whathehell Nov 2012 #323
It is due to our misguided belief that disputation and argument lead to the truth FarCenter Nov 2012 #93
Funny... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #115
Customers rather than citizens treestar Nov 2012 #94
We are ... (both) Maineman Nov 2012 #95
Oh, dear. More of this shit... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #112
Maybe you missed this valerief Nov 2012 #131
Quite amusing that... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #137
... Fumesucker Nov 2012 #188
Always enjoyed that one... ElboRuum Nov 2012 #201
I guess it's a good thing we don't have a democracy then....... Burma Jones Nov 2012 #116
If you make one ethnic slur, you are embracing and tolerating ALL ethnic slurs melody Nov 2012 #150
Correct, and the dummies eagerly embracing this self-hate shit sandwich would be excoriating whathehell Nov 2012 #198
Exactly, well said. melody Nov 2012 #220
Thank you. n/t whathehell Nov 2012 #256
I'm allowed to point out the flaws of my own ethnicity Fumesucker Nov 2012 #206
You're still a bigot melody Nov 2012 #219
Aww, I love you too Fumesucker Nov 2012 #229
We must question our prejudices melody Nov 2012 #239
What part of "popular culture" do you fail to understand? Fumesucker Nov 2012 #240
Believe what you need to believe melody Nov 2012 #245
I'm rubber and you're glue your words bounce off me and stick to you.. Fumesucker Nov 2012 #247
I wasn't trying to be mature or logical -- simply concise and honest melody Nov 2012 #250
No, "American" is not an ethnicity. It's a nationality. They are not the same thing. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #227
An ethnic quality or affiliation resulting from racial or cultural ties melody Nov 2012 #238
Nope Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #242
My background is in cultural anthropology melody Nov 2012 #244
Congratulations Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #246
That's right, anthropoloogy and dictionaries are wrong ... you are right melody Nov 2012 #249
Show me an anthropologist who defines "American" as an ethnic group. Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #254
In regard to Melody's point, It's a distinction without much of a difference whathehell Nov 2012 #257
Thank you once again n/t melody Nov 2012 #270
You're very welcome, Melody whathehell Nov 2012 #281
We don't have just one ethnicity melody Nov 2012 #261
Yep. whathehell Nov 2012 #283
Learn to read pls Spider Jerusalem Nov 2012 #319
You learn to read pls whathehell Nov 2012 #320
Brilliant elite? louslobbs Nov 2012 #155
GOP try to wisen up BlueinOhio Nov 2012 #157
The National Democrats/Sweden Democrats hold seats in their government lalalu Nov 2012 #200
You're correct, lalalu, but the drooling europhiles here will likely ignore that whathehell Nov 2012 #285
Yea, yea....dumb Americans.... paleotn Nov 2012 #208
I'm a danger to myself and others. Deep13 Nov 2012 #209
Damn Swiss!!! grantcart Nov 2012 #210
We should invade them billh58 Nov 2012 #291
Sweden is not Switzerland. MichaelMcGuire Nov 2012 #296
No, I meant Switzerland billh58 Nov 2012 #301
You mean Swedish. MichaelMcGuire Nov 2012 #297
It's like fishing. You put out a little bait and eventually one will bite. grantcart Nov 2012 #303
It's ok I'm allowed a slow day every once in a while. MichaelMcGuire Nov 2012 #321
no harm no foul, done it many times myself grantcart Nov 2012 #322
Flip side of idiotic emotionalism is rugged individuality. McCamy Taylor Nov 2012 #211
47.59% are dumb in my book bluemarkers Nov 2012 #212
And, what? You imagine that a majority of the rest of the world's populations are Brilliant? whathehell Nov 2012 #288
that's what you take away from my post? lol!! bluemarkers Nov 2012 #304
knr spanone Nov 2012 #213
We're probably all in the same boat.... Kind of a happy start to the season! defacto7 Nov 2012 #225
Hypocrites. leftlibdem420 Nov 2012 #226
Sweden: Pot calls kettle black lbrtbell Nov 2012 #228
"Dumb" is exactly the wrong word here. The right word is "ignorant." eridani Nov 2012 #231
Yes, and I'm sure there is no "ignorance" in Sweden where, as another poster pointed out whathehell Nov 2012 #265
I'm not understanding you. Are you saying that... CTyankee Nov 2012 #269
No. whathehell Nov 2012 #282
Here's the sense in which the article is true: Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #241
I just recently watched the Helen Mirren Prime Suspect series, from the early 90s valerief Nov 2012 #253
And they let Helen Mirren's character age, too Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #255
Is this your first and perhaps only experience with Euro TV?. whathehell Nov 2012 #287
Bwahahahaha! Well, I've been duly finger-wagged over an issue I really don't care about. valerief Nov 2012 #289
Oh, I'm sure you "really don't care about" it.. whathehell Nov 2012 #295
Wow, I didn't realize Euro TV was so damn important. Why it is, I don't know. valerief Nov 2012 #298
Apparently it was "important" enough whathehell Nov 2012 #299
My point about Prime Suspect being a good series? You don't think it was? nt valerief Nov 2012 #300
No, I think your point was that whathehell Nov 2012 #307
Wow, you must really feel guilty about finger-wagging me over such a petty issue. nt valerief Nov 2012 #311
Wow. How did you arrive at such a bizarrely erroneous conclusion? whathehell Nov 2012 #313
This message was self-deleted by its author valerief Nov 2012 #314
Well, it looks like the youngster has blocked me, but here's my message. valerief Nov 2012 #315
Wrong again...You didn't think it was "only tv" when you wrote a rather lengthy post whathehell Nov 2012 #317
No, Val...I haven't blocked. you. Check and see if you're sending your post to the right person. whathehell Nov 2012 #318
I never grow tired of *these* articles 4th law of robotics Nov 2012 #248
I don't even have to click on your link to know what you said is true. It's axiomatic. randome Nov 2012 #293
Media propaganda upi402 Nov 2012 #271
No, wait, I am an American. Rex Nov 2012 #284
Sadly, I partially agree with this article... frostfern Nov 2012 #325
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