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Response to DaniDubois (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 01:25 AM

33. um, no, they're not.

 

I have not yet seen an analysis of the impact of poverty on overall PISA scores (I have sent for the full set of data; they tell me it will come in 10 days or so). But data available now tells us that poverty, as usual, had a huge impact on PISA reading test scores for American students.

American students in schools with less than 10% of students on free and reduced lunch averaged 551, higher than the overall average of any OECD

Those in schools with 10% to 25% of students qualifying for free and reduced lunch averaged 527, which was behind only Korea and Finland.

In contrast, American students in schools with 75% or more of children in poverty averaged 446, second to last among the 34 OECD countries.

The PISA data can be found on page 15 (table 6) of Highlights From
PISA 2009, available on the Internet.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/research/how-poverty-affected-us-pisa-s.html

US as a whole scores lower than some developed countries because it has larger percentages of students in poverty than most developed countries, and larger percentages of students at extreme poverty than most developed countries.

and that's not the only reason: there are also differences in the populations taking the tests. for example, china has a lower mandatory/free education age, which means that lots of poor/country kids in china aren't taking those tests.

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