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Warpy

(111,249 posts)
25. I think the problem might be marriage, itself
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 05:19 PM
Nov 2012

If we look at the facts and figures, adultery involving both sexes is normal behavior, yet we treat it as aberrant and abhorrent because of all the baggage surrounding monogamous marriage, most of it coming from patriarchy.

A really viable alternative is the "walking marriage," wherein families are matrilineal and matrilocal and pair bonds are formed for as long as they last, the man's residence being with his female relatives and the "walking" part of the marriage meaning he walks home every day to do whatever his family is involved in.

While many of the pair bonds last for a lifetime, there is no exchange of property and no blending of family.

It is impractical here because men don't want to give up that much power and entitlement. So we'll keep doing the fictitious monogamy while jeopardizing our homes and children, instead.

http://traditions.cultural-china.com/en/115Traditions342.html

Your life does go on JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #1
Depends on how much you had invested in the relationship to start with Fumesucker Nov 2012 #8
I was six years in JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #71
Thirty years for me Fumesucker Nov 2012 #73
That's different JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #82
I'm truly sorry that happened to you lunatica Nov 2012 #89
I was completely blindsided by the affair and divorce, had no idea what was going on Fumesucker Nov 2012 #90
I'm really sorry for what's happened to you lunatica Nov 2012 #92
here was an interesting article. Blame affairs on evolution of sex roles seabeyond Nov 2012 #2
I don't think that article really reflects the true nature of adultery. Cleita Nov 2012 #10
People have always cheated Aerows Nov 2012 #93
Why are you assuming that a marriage automatically requires monogamy? DURHAM D Nov 2012 #3
If you read my post all the way you would see that I don't assume that at all. Cleita Nov 2012 #13
What are "vows of monogamy" in your mind? DURHAM D Nov 2012 #21
When I got married, I vowed to be exclusive with him and he with me. Cleita Nov 2012 #26
People need to discuss this when getting engaged liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #19
I think it can be discussed at anytime DURHAM D Nov 2012 #24
I can agree with that but liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #28
I hate it ibegurpard Nov 2012 #4
Yes, in this day of age, the health risks of cheating on glowing Nov 2012 #39
No. elleng Nov 2012 #5
OK. dchill Nov 2012 #12
LOL... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2012 #35
How about if the affair starts with a rendevous at an Olive Garden? grantcart Nov 2012 #46
Is there breastfeeding Aerows Nov 2012 #95
I think monogamy goes against human nature.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #6
So you would tell your spouse before you engage in an affair. Cleita Nov 2012 #16
Absolutely.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #40
See you have a sensible solution, however, that's not Cleita Nov 2012 #48
Because it does, should it always? Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #54
Why bother with marriage? treestar Nov 2012 #80
For some it's a matter of choice Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #83
Yeah. I have gone to two weddings for many people. treestar Nov 2012 #87
Send 'regrets" Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #88
The entire Broadwell/Petraeus thing, in my eyes, Drale Nov 2012 #7
Yes. Whether there is infidelity in a marriage is a matter for the partners JDPriestly Nov 2012 #47
"I guess happiness is boring to screenwriters and novelists." Cleita Nov 2012 #51
Crushed me and my family. Faygo Kid Nov 2012 #9
Thank you. I believe that's my point. Cleita Nov 2012 #17
yes to deny that it hurts people is wrong liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #22
It can really tear families apart. I have seen it in my own Cleita Nov 2012 #58
I agree with your assessment liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #11
I think marriage and fidelity are two different things. lalalu Nov 2012 #14
Yes, you have it. It's what a couple committed to that counts and to Cleita Nov 2012 #18
I survived it.......kids will never know. It was not easy but the 10 years since have been... yourout Nov 2012 #15
I'm happy to see that a happy ending can be achieved. Thanks. n/t Cleita Nov 2012 #20
It's not easy but there are times when it can work out. IE Bill and Hillary. yourout Nov 2012 #81
Its like a lot of other things dipsydoodle Nov 2012 #23
I think the problem might be marriage, itself Warpy Nov 2012 #25
It's foolish to expect monogamy, if you have any life experience. aletier_v Nov 2012 #32
my husband and I still expect monogamy but liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #42
I've been with my husband for 28 yrs after MANY partners before we met- so plenty of life experience riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #74
I really do like your idea and that would be ideal because Cleita Nov 2012 #33
every statistic i have read have women at over 16% and men a steady 21% with cheating. seabeyond Nov 2012 #38
good point seabeyond liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #43
I like this. n/t MadrasT Nov 2012 #65
^ this LadyHawkAZ Nov 2012 #68
My daughter was devastated by her cheating husband Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #27
All the best to you and your daughter. Faygo Kid Nov 2012 #29
Thanks Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #31
Sad but common... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #50
Yes, that's my point. It's not just sex, it's betrayal and it not only involves Cleita Nov 2012 #30
thats why Im not married argiel1234 Nov 2012 #34
Good for you, you are honest about. Cleita Nov 2012 #36
youre right it would be disingenuous of me argiel1234 Nov 2012 #53
It's not for everyone I guess liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #37
although Im glad for you, that is not the case with me argiel1234 Nov 2012 #55
While I feel for people that are hooked up with a cheater, there are signs when people are dating, bluestate10 Nov 2012 #52
Adultery is often a spur of the moment thing. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #41
I like how you use your brain to analyze the situation liberal_at_heart Nov 2012 #44
Yep. I still have a lot that I want to accomplish in life. I don't want to be hurt or killed. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #61
Ah, the sensible kicks in. Cleita Nov 2012 #45
Most women have had several partners. aletier_v Nov 2012 #56
The number of partners in one's life has little to do with adultery. Cleita Nov 2012 #57
You made this comment aletier_v Nov 2012 #63
I would worry about how many partners someone has even if single. It's a very Cleita Nov 2012 #64
The angry husband works well enough for me. Thanks nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #62
The act itself may be spur of the moment Major Nikon Nov 2012 #76
Legalize it and it will go away..... or not.... one of the best questions/topics 2on2u Nov 2012 #49
Monogamy has been fairly easy so far Nevernose Nov 2012 #59
us, too. and us too. lol. seabeyond Nov 2012 #60
+1. nt riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #75
If there were no marriage (or monogamous expections in a 1-1 relationship) marions ghost Nov 2012 #66
But that seeking thrills thing? Isn't that an immature reaction to life? Cleita Nov 2012 #69
Nnnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2012 #67
To the OP's Title question: No. BT, DT here with John Edwards. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #70
He broke all our hearts, didn't he, not just Elizabeth. n/t Cleita Nov 2012 #77
only if there's pictures...or better yet- video. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #72
If you can betray your wife/husband why wouldn't you betray your country? broiles Nov 2012 #78
i'd rather return to the day when people didn't talk about it, personally. i'm so HiPointDem Nov 2012 #79
yep marions ghost Nov 2012 #85
If You Want To Be A Playa, Male Or Female, Don't Get Married DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2012 #84
Yes marions ghost Nov 2012 #86
This Aerows Nov 2012 #94
The civilized world, and much of the rest of it as well, has a much healthier view of this. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #91
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